Posted on 10/13/2014 3:06:55 PM PDT by grundle
There’s no good time to tell a guy you’re a virgin. First date? Too much, too soon. Wait until the third date and you risk being considered a tease. Second date? Perhaps, but at this point you’re both still fretting over whether or not to eat another piece of bread; delving into sexual histories (or lack thereof) seems a bit extreme. So: There’s no good time to tell a guy you’re a virgin. Even worse? Telling him you’re waiting until marriage.
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“Having a baby doesn’t mean anything, but a woman still playing hard to get in her 40’s is narcissistic and delusional to the extreme. What does she think it’s made of? Gold?”
I’m smiling sadly as I read your post.
Believing that sex is sacred and should only be enjoyed within the sacrament of marriage is ‘playing hard to get’?
No, dear. She doesn’t think that she’s made of gold or that she’s ‘all that’. She’s a humble Woman.
But she refuses to bend her morality.
Men like you make it a sad thing to be a woman.
A very sad thing.
The part I am commenting on is the extremism with which you present it.
As if it is worthy of condemnation.
What did Paul say about marriage and being married?
The Bible says a lot of things and none contradict each other and all work together.
No, I wasn’t advocating for someone to have out of wedlock sex.
I was thinking that God gifted us with the miracle of the universe, allowing man and the vast creatures of creation the ability to produce new life.
>I just thought our people had become a bit more civilized<
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More diversified, yes.
More civilized, no.
More turd world, yes.
can’t agree more....
God looks at the condition of your heart, not a nose ring, tattoo or the way you dress....
The late Pastor Chuck Smith reached literally thousands of hippies and druggies in the late sixties by reaching out to them thought his ministry now called Calvary Chapels, people who traditional churches shunned because of their outward appearance... Today there are thousands of CC worldwide doing some of the most productive evangelical work today...
Okay, if you say so.
Let me ask you this. If man is supposed to minister to his wife like Christ does to the church, don't you think it would be wrong for man to withhold himself from his church?
Don't you think it would be wrong for the church to cut itself off from Christ?
Explain to me what value a church has without Christ.
Baptist.
There is one thing worse than not being a virgin when you get married. Dying one. If people think God approves of that, I’ve got news for them. So you imply that is it worse to be a virgin at death than to commit fornication.
Wow! How unlike our pure savior, higher than the heavens, who hated sin so intensely - fornication included - that he was willing to sacrifice himself in order to destroy the power of sin.
By his life and example, the apostle Paul apparently didn't agree with you. I think I regard Paul's judgment more than I respect yours.
Hebrews 7 21 (For those priests were made without an oath; but this with an oath by him that said unto him, The Lord sware and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec:) 22 By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament. 23 And they truly were many priests, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death: 24 But this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood. 25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them. 26 For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens; 27 Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people’s: for this he did once, when he offered up himself. 28 For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore. 1 ¶ Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens; 2 A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.
Thanks.
Feel free not to answer, because you may not know. But how do these guys justify it? Or do they just ignore the contradiction?
keyboard spew alert
I think she is a lesbian. I really do.
I don’t know.
I do know that the pressure builds up, then the man explodes in frustration, then the relationship is over. Once there was a blatant ‘put out or we’re done’ ultimatum. Twice, there was a engagement (with the diamond ring) and the man thought that the commitment to commit should be enough. (I do believe that this was the case in the first situation.)
The fact is that religious men are still MEN. Other than a bit more patience, I don’t see any difference between religious or secular men when it comes to premarital sex.
Worse, religious men seem to value purity in a woman... until it comes to *them*.
Sorry about the large text. I meant to reduce that prior to posting. I forgot to.
Most young women still support the “sexual revolution”, including abortion. They are too uninformed to see how they have been “had”.
First this none of anybody’s business except between her and a guy with whom she has a serious relationship. Why write this article? Second, a descent guy would respect her commitment and any guy who did not is a jerk.
It seems to me that this must be personal for you somehow, MrEdd, because your replies to me have been overwrought. I have given you a truthful, Biblically based answer. I’m leaving it at that.
I thought this too at first. Then I thought, you know, if we want more kids to be less promiscuous, it's good for them to have people they can look to on the matter. It's a form of witnessing.
Bump for later.
I have given consideration to sex outside of marriage, and I'm not a big fan of it. It does happen. If it happens with the person the second party has made a committment with and later marries, I'm not convinced God views the person to be worthy of enternal damnation for the commission.Not only do I not have to agree with you; God doesn't have to agree with your self-centered opinion, either. And God, not I, is who has already judged and condemned anyone who does this; who condemns this faulty judgment in his word.
Mark 10: 11 And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her. 12 And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.
Matthew 5: 32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.
Matthew 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
1 Corinthians 6 9 ¶ Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
"If it happens": As though that's an unavoidable accident that a man just can't be held responsible for.
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
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