Sunken CIv; time to put up the book.
Heh, yeah, good call:
Flood, Fire, and Famine
in the History of Civilization
by Richard Firestone,
Allen West, and
Simon Warwick-Smith
Posted on 11/27/2021 11:12:44 AM PST by rktman
We all know that history is not the left’s favorite subject. Many times, it’s just too inconvenient for their political narratives. Often, history has to be erased or submerged in order to achieve the “greater good” of creating a just and moral society.
In truth, it’s not much better on the right, although generally, the conservative take on American history is more nuanced. Christopher Columbus was an ass — a greedy, cruel, ambitious man who didn’t let anyone stand in his way to achieving riches and power, especially native people. But he was courageous enough to cross an unknown ocean in a rickety ship and with a mutinous crew.
Do his sins outweigh the good he’s done? Not our call. And certainly not the call of biased, cretinous leftists who don’t want to understand Columbus and only use his sins as illustrations in their little morality plays to condemn the entire “Age of Exploration.”
American history did not begin in 1492. There have been human beings residing in North America for at least 20,000 years and probably longer. But the people who crossed the Bering Sea land bridge from Asia to North America during the last Ice Age may not have been the first humans to arrive here. Recent DNA evidence shows that there have been several different migrations to North America with Native American tribes only being the most recent.
And that leads to the inescapable conclusion: the Native Americans who were present on the North American continent when Europeans arrived were not the same Native Americans who arrived 20,000 years ago. DNA evidence tracks the migration of one early American civilization — the Clovis people, so-called because the first tools and weapons were found in Clovis, New Mexico —
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Sunken CIv; time to put up the book.
Heh, yeah, good call:
Flood, Fire, and Famine
in the History of Civilization
by Richard Firestone,
Allen West, and
Simon Warwick-Smith
The Aztecs may have come from the north. If memory serves, their language (or rather dialect), Nahuatl, used to be grouped with Navaho (appears to be considered a cousin to Hopi now), but agglutinative languages are notoriously difficult to classify.
The Aztec origin story has them following the vision of their shaman. Their old homeland was Atzlan, which has been (mis)understood as a connection with Plato's Atlantis. Nahautl is believed to have been spoken in central-southern Mexico since about the seventh century.
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“Create a domestic tribunal that is the internal equivalent of the United States Alien Terrorist Removal Court...”
Sounds good on paper. But the people that are in question also make and control movement of creation of the rules. So until those that can manipulate the system, those the voters put in there to do that are removed, you’re spinning your wheels.
Bills have been in congress for many years if they don’t want it. Some examples:
Safe, Accountable, Flexible, Efficient Transportation Equity Act - 2005
Consolidated Appropriations Act - 2005
Consolidated Appropriations Resolution - 2003
Energy Policy Act - 2005
Every one of these being held in congress were conservative written. And you can find many more some going back into the 1800’s.
It’s great to want change. But the right people have to support your change to get it done. And the only difference between your solution and mine is the current herd of lawmakers don’t have to do what they should. And history indicates with good reason that as long as they make the rules and interpret them how they want, and the others across the aisle don’t say anything, game over until you put in different players that support your ideas. Seen any lately besides Trump? And you see what it got him with no support from anyone except the voters that were cheated out of an election with no full investigation or argument at the top level. In this case, Hilary was right about one thing...it will take a village, a big one.
wy69
the “ancient ones”...
Thats what the Umatilla’s claimed when the “Kennewick man” was discovered.
Kennewick Man is the name generally given to the skeletal remains of a prehistoric Paleoamerican man found on a bank of the Columbia River in Kennewick, Washington, United States, on July 28, 1996. It is one of the most complete ancient skeletons ever found. Radiocarbon tests on bone have shown it to date from 8,900 to 9,000 calibrated years before present, but it was not until 2013 that ancient DNA analysis techniques had improved enough to shed light on the remains. In June 2015, it was announced that Kennewick Man had the most genetic similarity among living peoples to Native Americans, including those in the Columbia River region where the skeleton was found.
Also, when assessing civilizations of the past, we have a very incomplete picture, since events were not recorded in the same manner of today.
Comparing different eras for the purpose of determining current policy is usually an endeavor made by people with axes to grind.
All of those are true, but I think of it this way:
Truth is hidden, lies are promoted daily and hourly.
In the end I do not know how to reconcile the fact that progressives have the power to replace history with their false narrative; but then having achnowledged this power, it is not something we are supposed to say that they control. It’s a contradiction to believe this. Progressives replace history often and are still doing it, it’s not like they did it just once and it was corrected.
There are a small handful of key tests anybody can initiate to prove ownership. “Replacement” is a key test. If you can directly replace something without needing permission or a special event then you probably own it. Especially if you have replaced it multiple times.
“it’s not like they did it just once and it was corrected”
Your phrase “just once and it was corrected” suggests a limited time frame. Expand it.
Watch what happens to the left in the coming months.
For the most part Indians did not domesticate the animals they ate. They hunted for their meat. The Europeans did domesticate their meat animals. In Europe they often lived in close proximity to them. Even keeping them below their living quarters in the winter. This close proximity meant that they adapted to animal diseases. Because immune to them. Those who did not left the gene pool.
Europeans brought these animals (pigs are a fine example) to North and South America. The natives immune systems were useless to counteract the diseases that came with these imported animals. The natives died, though some were strong enough to survive these imported diseases.
Graham Hancock is on this action too and was first. That a huge comet hit the Great Lakes 13000 years ago. He has been on Joe Rogan many times. These are still up on YouTube. Hanckock is also a favorite on Coast to Coast AM.
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Graham Hancock Says A Comet Destroyed Civilization 12,800 ..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUYoZmd_Br4
Graham Hancock, author of ‘Magicians of the Gods,’ explains how a comet struck the earth some 12800 ...
YouTube · Audioburst · Jan 4, 2016
Sure. What I originally said of "it’s not like they did it just once and it was corrected" was in recognition that it keeps happening and has kept happening going back over a century. Maybe that's what the disagreement is here. Do you believe the 1619 Project to be an island instead of a long train? I do not believe the 1619 Project is a solo disconnected island.
In expanded form: Since it keeps happening and has been repeatedly for over a century and there's no very large conservative presence to combat these tactical changes that they make to history, it is going to keep happening in perpetuity for an unlimited time frame. It's been happening since 1913 at a minimum. Without opposition, there can not ever be a limited time frame in the current state of things.
But while the problem is ongoing I also think it's important to focus on solutions to said problems.
I got to thinking that I thought I had seen your username before but I looked at my ping list and I didn't see it there. But I wanted to reiterate, because I think you've seen this and probably know that I do work to try to combat this in the form of audiobooks.
I'm not so bold as to think that any one or the next audiobook is what will turn the tide, but what I do think is that these are tools that we are going to need. Progressives have tools. Why don't we have any tools? Well, we do. I'm creating them. Whenever we do finally start seeing the rise of many conservative historical organizations, what I've created will be important tools in the arena. I wouldn't have put a decade of my personal time into the effort if I didn't think it was something that would be impossible to overcome.
Hancock. Nah, he wasn’t first, the authors of that book were. He’s sometimes entertaining, but he saddles on things and rides them for a while. He’s not a charletan, merely a lightweight.
https://www.google.com/search?q=graham+hancock+joe+rogan+youtube
You need to expand your thinking more than that.
You say it’s been happening since at least 1913. The truth is it’s been happening since the serpent in the garden.
Okay, I just looked at your page. Seems you’ve put forth significant efforts.
In my opinion, the only tool the left has is lying. Meanwhile, our tool is truth.
To keep lies going is always an uphill battle. This is why they can’t win.
Think of truth as free energy.
Ha! I was testing you on that. Graham Hancock has distributed this comet theory much more widely. For your original authors of the 2006 book.
The idea that former civilizations (of some sort) were swallowed up when the glaciers melted and seas rose to current level, was not his either. He was still pushing the idea that the Ark of the Covenant was in Ethiopia back when I was already “SunkenCiv”. ;^)
Well Graham does smoke DMT from time to time and advocates it. I just looked at his Amazon page. His books get ratings of above 2000. Your 2006 authors got 186 ratings.... I never heard of them until you mentioned them. Undoubtedly Hancock took their material and ran with it. Popularized it. Made lots of money from it.
What kind of answer do you think I'll get to a question like that? It won't be anything of value, I'll tell you that right now. So then, I prefer contractions that are logically deduced and reasonably proven. If we get too generic from excessive expansions then followup is impossible. We need things that are pointed and actionable. Actionable information means we can then go be actionable people.
There is a hard break in history that occurs right prior to the progressive era. All of America's problems without rare exception trace their lineage to approximately the time period of 1900-1910, give or take 3-5 or so years in some contexts.
Progressivism is America's cancer and the facts do warrant saying it. The years are 1900-1910. That's it, that's the starting point of big government in the American context and that includes the current lineage of revisionism we suffer under.
"The truth is it’s been happening since the serpent in the garden."
Intellectually I agree. But this isn't actionable - at least not in any way that isn't already happening to some degree already. If we all keep doing the exact same things we've all been doing with absolutely no changes, check out the last 120 years. We're on a collision course for failure and collapse. Progressivism is ruining everything.
I believe progressivism is failing miserably.
Their greatest error: relying on deception as the ground they walk on. The cracks are growing. It won’t hold.
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