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Either Stop Contraception or Destroy the Family
http://www.therealpresence.org/archives/Family/Family_007.htm ^ | unknown | Fr. John A. Hardon, S.J.

Posted on 03/29/2009 3:25:06 PM PDT by stfassisi

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Press in a Dither Again over Pope’s Reaffirmation of Catholic Teaching
How Birth Control Changed America for the Worst
If You Are Contracepting, You Are Part of A Very Big Problem

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Responsible Parenthood in a Birth Control Culture, Part One [Open]

Humanae Vitae and True Sexual Freedom — Part 6 of 6 [Open]
Contraception v. Natural Family Planning — Part 5 of 6 [Open]
Sex Speaks: True and False Prophets — Part 4 of 6 [Open]
Contraception and the Language of the Body — Part 3 of 6 [Open]
Does Contraception Foster Love? — Part 2 of 6 [Open]
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[Fr. Thomas Euteneuer] In Persona Christi: The Priest and Contraception

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History of Catholic teaching on Contraception

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21 posted on 03/29/2009 5:15:26 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: stfassisi

Contraception does not cause meaningless sex. PEOPLE cause meaningless sex.


22 posted on 03/29/2009 5:16:56 PM PDT by Julia H. (Remember when dissent was patriotic?)
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The Catholic alternative:

NFP — It Ain’t Your Momma’s Rhythm
Responsible Parenthood in a Birth Control Culture, Part Two [Open]
Responsible Parenthood in a Birth Control Culture, Part One [Open]

Contraception v. Natural Family Planning — Part 5 of 6 [Open]
Journey to the Truth (Natural Family Planning) [Open]
Enslaving Women One Pill at a Time (Birth Control Pills and Natural Family Planning)
New Study Shows Natural Family Planning Technique More “Effective” Than Contraception
Fargo) Diocese set to require pre-marriage course in natural family planning

Making Babies: A Very Different Look at Natural Family Planning
Clerical Contraception (Important Read! By Fr. Thomas J. Euteneuer)
(Fargo) Diocese set to require pre-marriage course in natural family planning
Natural Family Planning Awareness Week, July 25, 2004
IS NATURAL FAMILY PLANNING A 'HERESY'? (Trads, please take note)

Thanks Doc: More (and Younger) Doctors Support Natural Family Planning
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Reflections: Natural family planning vs sexism
British Medical Journal: Natural Family Planning= Effective Birth Control Supported by Catholic Chrch
Natural Family Planning

23 posted on 03/29/2009 5:17:29 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Julia H.

Did what does contraception cause?

No conception..............that’s painful to a couple who wants to have childre.


24 posted on 03/29/2009 5:19:45 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: stfassisi

sfa, probably the greatest mistake the Vatican made since WWII, and maybe since Vatican I, was Humanae Vitae. The Laos tou Theou have resoundingly rejected it, yet it continues to be taught as dogma. In the pre Schism Church, that rejection would have meant the end of any pretense that Humanae Vitae taught true dogma. The wisdom of that ecclesiology and praxis is demonstrated by the almost complete loss of credibility the Magisterium has suffered since the 1960s. The people simply don’t buy it, sfa and sadly, that has lead to a disregard of almost all the teachings of the Western Church.

You should know that in Orthodoxy, matters of family planning by non abortifacient contraception are left to the couple in prayerful consultation with their spiritual father. In this manner the decision to use or not use contraception is informed by The Faith. I’ll bet there isn’t one Orthodox Christian in a million who disagrees with that, preferring rather the Latin prohibition.

Humanae Vitae was ill considered. It was a bad choice and the ramifications of that bad choice are, sadly, plain to see.


25 posted on 03/29/2009 5:22:40 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Julia H.
Contraception does not cause meaningless sex. PEOPLE cause meaningless sex

Contraception is like leaving your car parked in front of a car thief's house with the keys in the ignition and not expecting your car to be stolen.

The motto is- that we don't tempt sin by making something easy for the sinner

26 posted on 03/29/2009 5:23:31 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: Kolokotronis

Our Lord also said, “By their fruits, you shall know them.” The fruits of contraception and the contraceptive mentality are quite clear.


27 posted on 03/29/2009 5:26:03 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: stfassisi
On the sixth day of creation God made created man and woman and told them

Then God blessed them, and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea(Genesis 1:28)

After God stopped the rains and the water finally receded. God told Noah to leave the ark and then told him,

Bring out with you every living thing of all flesh that is with you: birds and cattle and every creeping thing that creeps on the earth, so that they may abound on the earth, and be fruitful and multiply on the earth." (Genesis 8:17)

There is no where in the scriptures, not in the OT or the NT where God ever rescinded that command. Christians should all be having as many children as they can physically have. As far as financially being able to afford them, well have faith in God.

Unbelieving Christians have been aborting their children by the millions the last 30 years. They have also been using of birth control methods to limit the number of children they have. Christians should have by now outnumbered them by 2-1 in the population. Unfortunately Christians have been no better then the secular world. They may not be aborting their children, but they do use birth control. Could you imagine how things would be differently politically if only Christians practiced more faith in God?.

When the apostles asked Jesus to increase their faith, He told them,

Luk 17:6 So the Lord said, "If you have faith as a mustard seed, you can say to this mulberry tree, 'Be pulled up by the roots and be planted in the sea,' and it would obey you.(Luke 17:6)

Amreican Christians have not been practicing very strong faith and it shows in their children. Who have not been born.
28 posted on 03/29/2009 5:28:04 PM PDT by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: Kolokotronis
You should know that in Orthodoxy, matters of family planning by non abortifacient contraception are left to the couple .

I disagree with the Orthodox on this because contraception is man's decision not to TRUST God through prayer alone.

In order for contraception to exist it must be offered to the secular world to allow mankind to promote promiscuous sex outside of marriage.

29 posted on 03/29/2009 5:31:13 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: PatHimself

Well, Octomom and her enablers perverted the natural process, and that is quite clear.


31 posted on 03/29/2009 5:32:19 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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“The fruits of contraception and the contraceptive mentality are quite clear.”

P, contraception has been around since before the Crucifixion. Are those fruits today different from what they were in the past? I suggest that they are not and what you believe to be the fruits of contraception are in fact the fruits of the self destruction of the credibility of the Magisterium by disregarding the evidence that the HS is saying no to Humanae Vitae. If I think Humanae Vitae is no dogma, then I might conclude that the priests preaching that it is are liars, at a minimum misinformed people who, given their celibacy, don’t understand. If they haven’t got it right on contraception, maybe they are wrong on abortion too, and the Real Presence, etc, etc until in the end people simply become Unitarian/Universalists who go to Mass a couple of times a year.


32 posted on 03/29/2009 5:33:28 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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No, my comments *refute*, not reflect, an evil culture. My argument was that casual sex with multiple partners harms the process of marriage, having and raising children.

That much of the culture does not appreciate this fact is the problem. They will passionately defend casual sex with multiple partners, because they do not grasp that it will likely harm them and their eventual offspring.

In religious cultures that appreciate this fact, both parents and their children are stronger and healthier, because they do not waste their personal resources. Instead of having casual sex with multiple partners, they can have and raise more children in a monogamous relationship.


33 posted on 03/29/2009 5:35:24 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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Yeah, that’s our problem. Not enough welfare mommas having babies.


34 posted on 03/29/2009 5:36:35 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Salvation
Here's a good reflection on suffering from Laetare Sunday. Joy-Filled Suffering, Laetare Sunday<

Thank you for this ,Dear Friend!

From the article you gave me... When God allows one of His friends to suffer, He alone knows the value of it and the joy that can result. Conformity to Christ is the reward of those who humbly and joyfully accept His Cross

35 posted on 03/29/2009 5:36:36 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: Kolokotronis

Effective contraception has only been around for the past 50 years or so.


36 posted on 03/29/2009 5:37:02 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: stfassisi

Support your post with a biblical reference. Thanks.


37 posted on 03/29/2009 5:37:32 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: AppyPappy

You’re not seeing the forest from the trees. The main reason why they’re welfare moms in the first place is the government destroying the families by their “aid.”


38 posted on 03/29/2009 5:38:11 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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No, my comments *refute*, not reflect, an evil culture. My argument was that casual sex with multiple partners harms the process of marriage, having and raising children.

Thanks for the clarification,dear friend.

Sorry about the misunderstanding

39 posted on 03/29/2009 5:39:27 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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"...contraception is man's decision not to TRUST God through prayer alone."

Where does this idea come from? Orthodox Christians are advised to pray and take counsel with their spiritual father. Is it the consultation with the sf that bothers you? I know that the Western Church's concept of God has, especially since the Reformation, diverged from that of the pre-Schism Church, but insisting that Ο ΩΝ wants to decide that Dick and Jane will make a baby on Tuesday night but not Thursday unless His ineffable purposes are frustrated by a condom seems just a bit over the top, sfa.

"In order for contraception to exist it must be offered to the secular world to allow mankind to promote promiscuous sex outside of marriage."

So? Don't Latin Church priests preach against promiscuity? Of course they do. Where they fall down is in giving communion to people who are publicly living in sin but breeding freely.

40 posted on 03/29/2009 5:46:09 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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