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From the article: A new mobile device app called “BillionGraves”...

A Billion Graves, eh? Why only a billion? Haven't approximately 107 billion people already lived on this earth? [see below for source] (How many more to come?)

How can the Mormon church possibly baptize the billion dead people that cross over every 39-40 years and play "catch-up" for the 100 billion that's already lived and died?

Per one estimate given Nov. 4, 2011: The world death rate is 8 deaths per 1,000 population. 53.4 million people die each year, which is about 146,357 deaths each day. Answered - 12 days ago at 7:59pm on Nov 04 2011
Source: What is the death rate around the world?

That means the estimated death rate is 26.7 MILLION every half-year around the world. And their only capturing headstones at a rate of 250,000 every six months? The article says:

The photographing and transcribing effort, performed by volunteers, has already generated 250,000 headstone transcriptions in six months, Brother Cross said...

That means that for every headstone they capture, another 26 head off into oblivion. And that multiplies. It's not like "gaining ground" ratio-wise on a one out of every 27 ratio allows them to "catch up."

In fact, toss in the factor of how Johnny-come-lately the Mormon death-obsession machine is on the scene. We have 7 billion people alive now on the planet; but how many have ever lived, estimate-wise?

Carl Haub of the nonprofit Population Reference Bureau estimated in 2002 that it was 106 billion -- now 9 years later likely to be 107 billion.
Source: Number of humans who have ever lived

107 billion minus 7 billion now alive = 100 billion who have died before us. What paltry number of people out of 107 billion does the Mormon church even have in its data bases, let alone find teen and college kids to "stand in" for the dead dunking?

How many Mormon converts of the dead has the Mormon church really made via proxy baptism of the dead?

1 posted on 11/17/2011 12:47:20 PM PST by Colofornian
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Last post I left off with the question: How many Mormon converts of the dead has the Mormon church really made via proxy baptism of the dead?

If 100 billion have already died…and another billion die in less than every-40 years, why aren’t Mormons doing more to obsessively focus on the dead?

Are they not listening to their leaders?

Lds founding “prophet” Joseph Smith:
“The GREATEST RESPONSIBILITY IN THIS WORLD that God has placed upon us is to SEEK AFTER OUR DEAD.” (Joseph Smith, Jr., Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 356)

Lds “prophet” Wilford Woodruff, who had the Mormon power to begin turning off the valve of polygamy:
“There is hardly any principle the Lord has revealed that I have rejoiced more in than in the redemption of our dead…” (Teachings of Presidents: Wilford Woodruff, pp. 192-193)

LDS ‘scripture’: …It is the baptism for the dead. For we without them cannot be made perfect; neither can they without us be made perfect.” (Lds doctrines & covenants 128:18)

Are not the Mormons to be the “saviors” of the entire dead world?

The answer, which per Mormon leaders, is “yes” to that question. See here for documentation:
* Are Mormon people LITERAL saviors of dead Jews, others? (The OTHER World Series: Vanity)

2 posted on 11/17/2011 12:47:48 PM PST by Colofornian (JoePologists: Those who defend the personality cults of Joe Smith and Joe Paterno)
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From the article: A new mobile device app called “BillionGraves”...

I tell you, somebody was half a month late @ Lds.org in getting this out. Would have been a perfect Halloween post as part of "The OTHER WORLD Series."

In case you have missed the "OTHER WORLD series" over the past two Octobers, which highlights the Mormon obsession with the dead, most of the links below appeared during those two sessions -- except for the first batch below:

Mormons sending people into other world via Murders:


* "Under the Banner of Heaven" movie? [In Time for Romney candidacy]
* 'The Mormon Murders' -- the Mini-Series the Latter Day Saints Shut Down
* The 'shocked and appalled' syndrome
* Mitt's a bit miffed [Mormon Massacre movie]
* MASSACRE MOVIE MIFFING MITT
* Mystery of deadly bomber Hofmann endures after 25 years
* Appendix C: The Militiamen (Real Mormon murderers in history...the Lds-approved 'list')
* New book, DVD focus on LDS and Old West icon Porter Rockwell
* History of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, vol. 3
* September 11 Significant to Utah Native Americans [Real 19th-century Mormonism]
* Site Of Mountain Meadows Massacre Recognized [First 9/11 American terrorist attack - 1857]
* Utah massacre site dedicated as national landmark
* Mountain Meadows Massacre site may become national landmark
* The Mountain Meadows Massacre [The Original 9/11 of American History]
* Mountain Meadows groups plan commemoration
* Reading Recommendations: Massacre at Mountain Meadows
* The FReeper Foxhole Remembers The Mountain Meadows Massacre (9/11/1857) - Sep. 11th, 2003
* Mountain Meadows massacre analysis ends with an accusation
* Mountain Meadows massacre myths
* LDS Church gives nod to Landmark status for Mountain Meadows site

Mormon temples: Where the dead and the living intersect via occultic communication:


* Spiritualism and Mormonism: Some Thoughts on Similarities and Differencesa
* The Facts on the Mormon Church (The OTHER World Series - Macabre Manifestations)
* They See Dead People? (The OTHER World Series - LDS & Temple Hauntings)
* Lds Temple Haunted? Did Declaration of Independence signers appear as ghosts to leader? [Vanity]
* Journal of Discourses/Vol 2/Spiritual Communication [The OTHER World Series: Lds discourse w/dead]
* The "familiar spirit" in 2 Nephi 26:16
* Is Lucifer the god of the Mormon Temple? [The OTHER World Series]
* They see dead people? [2010 posting]
* The Doctrine of Temple Work
* Mormons even marry the dead by proxy (Vanity: The OTHER World Series)
* From Here to Eternity: Of Mormons and Celestial Marriage ["Visit the Salt Lake City cemetary..."]
* Are Mormon people LITERAL saviors of dead Jews, others? (The OTHER World Series: Vanity)
* “THE HEARTS OF THE CHILDREN SHALL TURN TO THEIR FATHERS”
* Anne Frank, a Mormon?
* The Nauvoo Pentagrams
* Temple adoptions were part of LDS evolution toward genealogy work

The Mormon 'spirit world' -- where the dead co-exist with the living, no matter what their life was on earth:


* PREACHING THE GOSPEL IN THE SPIRIT WORLD: What Did Peter Really Teach?
* “And I Saw the Hosts of the Dead, Both Small and Great": Joseph F. Smith, World War I, and His Visions of the Dead
* The Spirit World, Our Next Home(The OTHER World Series: Mormon beliefs beyond this world)
* The Mormon Plan of Eternal Progression
* The Spirit World, Our Next Home [2010 posting]
* Becoming Scripture: D&C 138

Mormon demon possession:


* Letter from Heber C. Kimball on the Early Lancashire work dated 2 Sep 1837 [LDS Demon possession]
* Discovering Lds Britain: Discovering Lds Preston - Satanic Attack

Mormon spirit entities: Demons,'ghosts' or 'angels'?


* About Joseph Smith (The OTHER World Series)
* Speaking of ghosts… [The OTHER World Series...Mormon ghost stories]
* Utah Ghosts [The OTHER World Series...Haunted Utah]
* How can you tell the difference: Mormon Doctrine on Shaking Hands With Spirits [The Other World Series]
* Priesthood of Joseph Smith [The OTHER World Series]
* Are ghosts among us? Many believe in spirits, but churches offer stern warnings

Mormon Halloween: The Dead:


* LDS Vision of the dead claimed as ‘revelation’ on Halloween, 1918 [The OTHER World Series: Vanity]
* Mormonism, the Halloween Religion
* Mormons & Halloween: How we celebrate, and what to do if it's on a Sunday
* Mormonism, the Halloween Religion [Superbowl special - OPEN]

Mormon Vampires:


* The twilight saga [The OTHER World Series...Mormon Vampires]
* Mormon imagery runs deep in ‘Twilight’
* Mormon Women, Twilight, and Internalized Sexism

Mormonism & Its Occultic Roots:


* Early Mormonism and the Magic World View
* The Occult & Restoration Story [Where does the word 'Mormon' originate?]
* GOD-MEN AND SPIRITUAL VEGETABLES: The Occult Worldview of Mormonism
* JOSEPH SMITH’S INVOLVEMENT WITH MAGIC, MASONRY, AND THE OCCULT
* Smith used Lds funerals to introduce necro-baptism, 'becoming gods' [The OTHER World Series: Vanity]
* JOSEPH SMITH, JR: Founder and first "Prophet, Seer, and Revelator" (1805-1844)
* The Occult and the Restoration Story: Joseph Smith and RLDS/LDS Origins [2010 posting
3 posted on 11/17/2011 12:51:55 PM PST by Colofornian (JoePologists: Those who defend the personality cults of Joe Smith and Joe Paterno)
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Are there many Mormons in other countries or mostly just in US? (living ones, I mean) Just curious.


4 posted on 11/17/2011 12:54:28 PM PST by NEMDF
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What I find interesting is how many times the information is just plain wrong when you go to the industry site.
My Mom’s birthday and place of birth are incorrect. (Yea, its her because the SS# is correct)
The obsession with the dead is just creepy.
I mean you even see that in the BattleStar Galacatica story lines.


6 posted on 11/17/2011 1:01:54 PM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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That means that for every headstone they capture, another 26 head off into oblivion. And that multiplies. It’s not like “gaining ground” ratio-wise on a one out of every 27 ratio allows them to “catch up.”
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12 posted on 11/17/2011 1:29:40 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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13 posted on 11/17/2011 1:32:52 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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I would love to access their geneology database just to see ancestors as long as no one comes to the door or asks me to attend their cult meetings


38 posted on 11/17/2011 3:50:20 PM PST by RaceBannon (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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My two baby boys are buried at St. Mary’s Cemetery in Oakland and I think I would find it comforting to be able to zero in on their little graves. I’m sure members of the LDS Church, as well as non members, will benefit from this free service. I think it is stupendous.

It is perplexing that you take this opportunity to turn it into yet another anti Mormon thread.

Whatever floats your boat.


42 posted on 11/17/2011 7:27:55 PM PST by Saundra Duffy ( For victory & freedom!!!)
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I had the idea - even before I joined the LDS Church - to start a club of sorts where a family in one part of the world who had a family member or friend who was buried in another part of the world partner up with a family in that other part of the world where THEIR loved one was buried. Sheeesh. That was hard to say. Anyway, I wish someone in Oakland could visit my babies’ graves to make sure they are well kept and place flowers once in a while and take a picture for me. And I would be willing to do the same for someone whose loved one is buried in Fresno. Whew!


43 posted on 11/17/2011 7:39:56 PM PST by Saundra Duffy ( For victory & freedom!!!)
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Are we now to have the graves of Moroni???

sarcasm

44 posted on 11/17/2011 8:06:04 PM PST by cloudmountain
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Hate to quibble, but the population calc makes me believe even more in a young earth.


53 posted on 11/18/2011 7:35:07 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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J. Vernon McGee said that this earth is one big graveyard.

The new earth and heavens of Jesus will NOT be a graveyard.

But the mormon mythology would have countless new little gods creating countless new GRAVEYARD earths.

False, false, false.


54 posted on 11/18/2011 7:38:38 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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