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Swiss Guards seal gates, leave service of Pope Emeritus
cna ^ | February 28, 2013

Posted on 02/28/2013 2:04:29 PM PST by NYer

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To: Salvation

Even Peter had a Sword- all modern popes have armed bodyguards.. so should their sheep do likewise..or it is hypocrisy...Paul had an armed escort to Caesarea


61 posted on 02/28/2013 4:51:18 PM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Marchione.)
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To: JCBreckenridge
Then I think it's the prerogative of the "threadstarter" to ask for some kind of thread status change, right?

And why are you "of all people" funny? Is that amusing? I don't usually peruse "religion" threads, so I am inexperienced. Are you famous?

62 posted on 02/28/2013 4:53:26 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Salvation

Sorry but Ex-POPE Benedict was not a pope any more nor A HEAD OF STATE NEITHER coz he retired from both but still got a ride in an armored car with bodyguards in cars following him 0- Gimme a break-


63 posted on 02/28/2013 4:54:49 PM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Marchione.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

I’m an ex-prot, Catholic convert.


64 posted on 02/28/2013 4:57:57 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: bunkerhill7

Interesting. So you believe that Bush should not have SS protection?


65 posted on 02/28/2013 4:59:01 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: Ann Archy

Very reasonable. And, BTW, I am your Brother, as you referenced above (I was going to answer that post, but came to this one first). We walk the same path, Ann.


66 posted on 02/28/2013 4:59:14 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: NYer
I've always thought that this is Swiss Guard!


67 posted on 02/28/2013 5:00:55 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Cyber Liberty

I know.....God Help us all!!!


68 posted on 02/28/2013 5:01:56 PM PST by Ann Archy (ABORTION........the HUMAN sacrifice to the god of CONVENIENCE.)
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To: Revolting cat!

Does that come with a corkscrew and toothpick?


69 posted on 02/28/2013 5:02:56 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Chickensoup
You know, I am not Catholic.

However it is classless and sickening to hear someone critizie the faith, beliefs or rituals of others.

Give it a break.
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You must’ve had some ferocious arguments after 9/11 when I'm sure you used this same rational to defend the savages who slit the throats of innocent flight attendants?

70 posted on 02/28/2013 5:05:22 PM PST by bramps (Sarah Palin got more votes in 2008 than Mitt Romney got in 2012)
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To: Ann Archy

Yes, and one must always allow for silliness. Very important. God’s way of saving us from ourselves. Too many people are too serious. I’m considered “too serious.”


71 posted on 02/28/2013 5:06:44 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: PapaBear3625
The Church has survived for two thousand years. Name a currently-surviving institution that comes close.

Why would you respond to my honest question with such a question as yours?

If you want my honest answer then here it is, how about the church of HYPOCRISY, after all that's been around as long as anyone professing to be a Christian or a Christian leader. Is it necessary for me to mention Swaggert, Baker, pedophile priests and thousands of others?

I'm trying my damnest to get beyond that huge road block bro but you ain't helping me one bit.

72 posted on 02/28/2013 5:07:47 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (God bless you Tommy and thank you for your service: http://swiftboats.org/tribute/tribute.html)
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To: Cyber Liberty

he is famous, one of the top Civil War Generals


73 posted on 02/28/2013 5:09:19 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

I thought they were all dead?

I liked Lee. He said that war is ugly, and that’s good because otherwise we’d become to fond of it. But I was wondering if the poster was somehow famous.


74 posted on 02/28/2013 5:13:29 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Cyber Liberty

I was talking about his FR handle obviously.

Is he famous? I suppose that is always a possibility here on FR!.


75 posted on 02/28/2013 5:22:06 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: NYer
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76 posted on 02/28/2013 5:22:21 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Hot Tabasco; NYer
Everything within the Catholic religion seems to be so ritualistic, down to the removal of the Pope’s red shoes and the “defacing” of his ring. Why is that? Why is it necessary?
NYer has answered you well, but to address rituals further: they bring one closer to God.

If you know anyone that is a daily-Mass variety Catholic, join them at a "daily" Mass as there are few pretenders there (or just go on your own; you're welcome to partake in everything but Communion).

I was fortunate to meet a young man (he is now my husband) who would walk miles in the blinding snow to receive Our Lord (the Eucharist!) during the week. And it was not only through him, but through the many others who attended these Masses (and of course, through Him, capital "H") that I eventually saw the intense beauty and importance of the Catholic Mass. It's now been since 1984 that I've attended daily Mass, and my husband for almost a decade more. And if anyone was to offer either one of us a million dollars to just go to Mass on Sundays, we'd laugh, scoff, and send him on his way, as there is nothing more important than the daily Eucharist.

In fact, it is what allows all the Catholic haters on forum boards/blogs, etc. to continue espousing their junk, for without the Eucharist, there would be no life on earth at all. :)
It would be easier for the world to survive without the sun than to do so without the Holy Mass. --Padre Pio

77 posted on 02/28/2013 5:28:53 PM PST by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: Hot Tabasco

He was making a quip on your word “defacing” (de facing). As a protestant I find the various traditions a bit too much and odd sometimes. But that is mostly due to a lack of knowledge or miss understanding of them. The explanation of the red shoes and the ring in this thread was interesting.


78 posted on 02/28/2013 5:33:08 PM PST by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: bramps

You must’ve had some ferocious arguments after 9/11 when I’m sure you used this same rational to defend the savages who slit the throats of innocent flight attendants?
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Give it a break and dont be a fool. There is a world of difference between mass murder and a faith’s harmless rituals. When did FR turn into a classless drama-queen city?


79 posted on 02/28/2013 5:40:19 PM PST by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: NYer

We miss you, Holy Father, Emeritus +

80 posted on 02/28/2013 5:44:26 PM PST by PraiseTheLord (economic civil war ?)
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