Posted on 05/04/2014 4:13:19 PM PDT by NYer
Ping!
Arius mentioned.
Perhaps there was a translation error and he gave him some punch to drink that was spiked with a hit of whiskey and not a hit with his fist.
I think he and St. Jerome are tied for Most Irascible Saint.
Let's chuck the milquetoast music too, while we're at it.
Clear and faithful confession of the Faith originates from Above and has, by all appearances, less-than-desirable results; even perhaps crucifixions. We pray that the LORD bless and strengthen His Church with faithful teachers and preachers, for without His blessing and Word, we are all damned heretics.
Thanks for another edifying post. I assist at a Lutheran parish in South Bend, IN that is evangelical and catholic in theology and practice; orthodox, confessional, and liturgical, by the grace of God in Christ.
I am not Catholic and could be considered a protestant of Protestantism (LDS). However, I believe that coercion/violence in the act of establishing the doctrines of God is wholly unchristian. I can find nothing in the life(example) of Christ which would suggest that this would be acceptable to him or those who profess his faith.
Furthermore, I believe that the stated example of the father disciplining his son as a metaphor for a church disciplining non-conformance is totally out of place.
If coercion/persecution is OK to Catholics as a church, then the persecution of Christ and Christianity by the Jewish Elite, could be similarly described as a necessity to punish non-conformity, and could serve equally in justification of the various murders committed by the inquisition. Indeed, if the inquisition was sanctioned by God, why is it not practiced today?
Last of all, history has proven the justness of Catholic non-conformists in the past, such as the example of Martin Luther. In the 1500s, Martin Luther was excommunicated as a heretic, although, the modern Catholic church has modified the church position to conform to most of the self-same criticisms that Martin Luther was excommunicated for.s.
Thanks for the ping. The fact that heretics were burned at the stake is not mentioned.
Good belly laugh out of that one.
Will you return to burning heretics at the stake?
.....Yet Christ got angry and threw the merchants out of the Jewish temple, so there are times when just anger needs to come into play.
I am glad when I see an very old icon which is still in good condition.
Matthew 21:12 Jesus entered the temple courts and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves.
Mark 11:15 On reaching Jerusalem, Jesus entered the temple courts and began driving out those who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves,
Luke 19:45 When Jesus entered the temple courts, he began to drive out those who were selling.
John 2:15 So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables.
Heresy is not just an abstract thing, but has real effects on real people’s lives and in fact on the world in which we all live, whether or not we share or acknowledge the heresy.
Pity there was nobody around to bop Mohammed when he started to hallucinate. Islam is often viewed as a sort of offshoot or resurgence of Arianism, so we can see that the effect of what one might dismiss as a “mere” doctrinal point has had very real and awful consequences.
People know think they have “moved beyond” doctrine, but they don’t realize that this is (a) impossible and (b) that it’s a doctrine in itself. I saw that the Unitarians have recently started advertising themselves as “Faith beyond beliefs.” LOL! Poor souls, they mean well, but there’s no such thing as faith in the abstract (faith in what???) and doctrine or “beliefs” must always be part of it and they must be clear and orthodox, that is, in line with Jewish and Christian tradition.
Nestorius on Mary as the Mother of God (Ecumenical)
The Day Nestorius Rocked the Church and an Empire
How Quickly Catholic Heresy Took Over the Church (Immediately)
Hilaire Belloc’s “The Great Heresies” now available in EPUB format
Chapter 6: The Modern Phase [The Great Heresies]
Chapter 5: What Was The Reformation? [The Great Heresies]
Chapter 4: The Albigensian Attack [The Great Heresies]
Chapter 3: The Great and Enduring Heresy of Mohammed [The Great Heresies]
Chapter 2: The Arian Heresy [The Great Heresies
Chapter 1: Scheme Of This Book [The Great Heresies]
Introduction: Heresy [The Great Heresies]
The Great Heresies
John Calvin’s Worst Heresy: That Christ Suffered in Hell
Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Succumbs to Heresy
The Bishop Discovers Heresy?
From Orthodox to Heresy: The Secularizing of Catholic Universities
Progressivism/Liberalism is Heresy [Excellent read & reference]
Is heresy better than schism? [Ecumenical]
Modernism: The Modernist Heresy
THE GREAT HERESIES-THE MODERN PHASE
The Protestant Heresy
The Gospel According to Mary Magdalene
Americanism, Then and Now: Our Pet Heresy (encyclical of Pope Leo XIII)
Heresies then and now: ancient Christian heresies practiced in modern times
The Plain Truth About The Baptist Bride Heresy
Balthasar, Hell, and Heresy: An Exchange (is it compatable with the Catholic faith?)
Know Your Heresies
The Rev. John Piper: an interesting look at "heresy vs. schism"
Pietism as an Ecclesiological Heresy
Heresy
Arian Heresy Still Tempts, Says Cardinal Bertone (Mentions Pelagianism As Well)
Catholic Discussion] Church group stays faithful (to heresy!)
An overview of modern anti-Trinitarian heresies
Where heresy and dissent abound [Minnesota]
Gnostic Gospels - the heresy entitled "Gnosticism."
Christian mavericks find affirmation in ancient heresies
The So-Called ‘Gospel’ of Judas: Unmasking an Ancient Heresy
Benedict XVI Heresies and Errors
Donatism (Know your heresies)
The Heresy of Mohammed (Chapter 4, The Great Heresies)
Father & Son Catholic Writers Tag-Team Old & New Heresies
“I think he and St. Jerome are tied for Most Irascible Saint.”
Well, there’s always [St.] Lucifer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer_of_Cagliari
Depends on what the definition of “heretic,” is.
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