Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread) October 29, 2003

To: floriduh voter

"WHILE FELOS keeps talking about Terri's right to privacy"

Felos the cat and Disco Mikey lost ability to hide behind Terri's "right to privacy" after the way they shredded that dear woman's dignity on Larry King last night. As a woman and a human being, I was appalled at their lack of respect toward her, as well as her family.

301 posted on 10/29/2003 7:22:38 PM PST by PeyersPatches (I have intestinal fortitude)

To: PeyersPatches; Saundra Duffy

Saundra Duffy:

"Michael Schiavo is a damn liar and I'll bet you he voted for Bill Clinton twice."

Peyerspatches:

If he's a true Democrat, he probably voted for Clinton 8 or 9 times.

ROFLMAO!! Really damning! hehe

302 posted on 10/29/2003 7:23:15 PM PST by Republic

To: sweetliberty; STARWISE

Starwise asked, "When did we become a right-to-die society?"

Here is a repost of my earlier message to you that disappeared when the thread it was on was pulled:

The Death Culture in Florida

Our society turned into a right-to-die society when technological advances made it possible to sustain the life, of the shell of a body, beyond the point of tolerance of pain or beyond the point of measurable brain activity.

As a first world country, we do an amazing job of keeping people going physically, but we are truly lousy at providing any quality of life. We interfere with the life/death cycle by using extreme medical measures when, under normal circumstances, the person would just pass on to a better place. (As in the case of extremely premature babies...)

It was a logical step in the progress of man overall that we had to become a "right-to-die" society. We had to preserve the individual's right to hold up his hand and say, "No, I don't want chemotherapy." or "Never put me on a respirator".

It didn't take long for the greedy ones to step in and start calling something as simple as a feeding tube or an IV or rehabilitative therapy 'extreme medical intervention'. By doing so they were able to eliminate lives ahead of schedule to avoid draining their resources or their inheritances (materialism run amok!). And the churches and the people unknowingly sat back and let a few immoral judges make this leap into a new "death culture".

Once this radical new "death culture" was established, hospices began to spring up everywhere. It was natural. People dying and their loved ones are in an extremely emotionally vulnerable time of life. Once they are moved to hospice, they are easily persuaded to leave all their money to these death camps.

"But", you are screaming, "it is so much better now that there is hospice available!"

On the surface and in a few good small volunteer driven homes, perhaps you are right. But in the large death mills, non-profit or for-profit, it is all about advancing the theory that society needs to dump their "burdens".

Some religions, possibly with great foresight, will not allow any medical interference. Those of us who choose to accept the services of doctors need to acknowledge the risks that we are taking with this possibly unnatural level of interference.<

303 posted on 10/29/2003 7:23:41 PM PST by TaxRelief (Ask me about the connection between Socialism, Communism, Drug Warlords and Vodka.)

"Is Felos officially Terri's lawyer?"

IIRC, Felos came onto the scene in 1998, years after 'the incident'. IMO, Felos' legal 'specialties' would have been of no interest to Terri in 1990. Was Felos even practicing in the area in 1990? Sounds like Michael made him Terri's lawyer.

304 posted on 10/29/2003 7:24:10 PM PST by windchime

To: Robert A. Cook, PE

I have seen 'HINO' before...but don't know what it stands for. Please define-thanks!

305 posted on 10/29/2003 7:24:41 PM PST by Republic

To: PeyersPatches; All

As a woman and a human being, I was appalled at their lack of respect toward her, as well as her family.

Where is the NAGS on this.

Nevermind, silly question.

306 posted on 10/29/2003 7:26:30 PM PST by Budge ( <>< .)

Check out this excerpt from the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum :

""EUTHANASIA" KILLINGS

Forced sterilization in Germany was the forerunner of the systematic killing of the mentally ill and the handicapped. In October 1939, Hitler himself initiated a decree which empowered physicians to grant a "mercy death" to "patients considered incurable according to the best available human judgment of their state of health." The intent of the socalled "euthanasia" program, however, was not to relieve the suffering of the chronically ill. The Nazi regime used the term as a euphemism: its aim was to exterminate the mentally ill and the handicapped, thus "cleansing" the Aryan race of persons considered genetically defective and a financial burden to society."

Link here:
http://www.holocaust-trc.org/hndcp.htm

307 posted on 10/29/2003 7:27:16 PM PST by PeyersPatches (I have intestinal fortitude)

To: Pegita; Republic

INPUT? Felos landmark case Estelle Browning is what got all this starvation-dehydration stuff started after 1990. Many have been killed this way but nobody cared enough to save them. My point being that there was no Free Republic in 1990 or Glenn Beck all over this for 3 years?

Hopefully, this starvation-dehydration hocus pocus will be re-visited by people when they go to their Will signings. TOO MANY PEOPLE DO NOT READ WHAT THEY SIGN AT THE LAWYER'S OFFICE. THEN they are trapped later on when nobody will feed them.

308 posted on 10/29/2003 7:28:14 PM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com...conservative-spirit.org Visit a Local Site)

HINO= Husband In Name Only.

309 posted on 10/29/2003 7:28:15 PM PST by Lovergirl (Isaiah Chapter 43:3-4 You are precious to me and I love you. www.terrisfight.org)

To: Ohioan from Florida

Thank you for going back and finding that post, Ohioan. I remembered reading it, but was too lazy to go back through that long thread to find it. It just seems like the potassium thing never really made a lot of sense all along, and I'm kind of surprised they actually won the lawsuit on something that they could never really explain. I sure hope that it's looked into REALLY closely now.

310 posted on 10/29/2003 7:28:51 PM PST by iowamomforfreedom (Why is it illegal to starve an animal but not a human being?)

To: floriduh voter

I think that would be the perfect place to write their books.

311 posted on 10/29/2003 7:29:04 PM PST by pickyourpoison

What is really ugly about some of this is that I suspect many have done the same thing to their own relatives and can't stand the light of moral scrutiny and introspection concerning their own actions. They look at this and wouldn't want to be burdened by a loved one who is of no use to them any more, and they respond accordingly. Love quickly waxes cold when things get inconvenient.

You have truly hit the nail on the head here. To acknowledge that Michael is doing something wrong here, they have to also acknowledge that they are guilty of the same thing. That would take more character than most of them can muster.

Truthfully, I feel guilty for telling my own mother, when she was dying, that it was okay to let go. I wonder if my words that I thought were encouraging, were actually discouraging.

312 posted on 10/29/2003 7:29:26 PM PST by TaxRelief (Ask me about the connection between Socialism, Communism, Drug Warlords and Vodka.)

To: floriduh voter

I heard the Schindler's were going to be on the Montel Williams show.

313 posted on 10/29/2003 7:31:19 PM PST by pickyourpoison

To: pickyourpoison

I'm glad the media is finally covering Terri's story while she's doing well at Hospice. I wish she was somewhere else but the world is watching them. That's a lot of scrutiny, even for hearts of stone.

314 posted on 10/29/2003 7:33:10 PM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com...conservative-spirit.org Visit a Local Site)

Husband in name only?

315 posted on 10/29/2003 7:33:33 PM PST by pickyourpoison

Those two vampires thrill at the power of closing down a life. And as for the respect for women...they are way to self involved and cold to invest in respect. The right to privacy to Felos translates into-Felo's privacy engage in murder. Court sanctioned. Must be almost Godlike to this freak.

Michael seems to enjoy the ride. Pain obviously motivates him, fulfills some sick need to dominate and punish. Note : the pain he is inflicting on the Schindler's seems to be sweeter to him than the pain he has put Terri thru for the last 13 years. Dunno for sure-it could be a draw.

316 posted on 10/29/2003 7:36:30 PM PST by Republic

I no longer have the TX ping list, but Flyer does. Pinging him now. ~~Ohhh, Flyerrrr!~~

And I've just posted my comment on that silly website. I think whoever wrote that editorial must be some student somewhere.... One who was steeped in moral relativism through a government school system and who has ZERO understanding of the sanctity of life!

317 posted on 10/29/2003 7:39:08 PM PST by Humidston (Two Words: TERM LIMITS)

To: PeyersPatches

That link sent chills down my spine. I had a friend in the eighties who was a WWII Vet. He was at one of the concentration camps when the prisoners were freed. He took a lot of pictures of naked, piled up bodies, bodies with skin removed, and sick skinny prisoners. It was a much more horrific photo album than what most people have seen of these death camps.

Observing the way their bodies were treated, with such utter disrespect, has left a lasting impression on my heart. Those pictures spoke volumes about the risks associated with downplaying the value of every individual life.

318 posted on 10/29/2003 7:39:29 PM PST by TaxRelief (Ask me about the connection between Socialism, Communism, Drug Warlords and Vodka.)

"Sociopaths are the best liars in the world...and MS is a pro!"

You know, I wondered about that until I saw his pitiful, narcissistic, trailer-trash self on LKL the other night. I believe he's just been the bumpkin recipient of help from backwater Boss Hoggs in a mini-nazi judicial system tucked away in Pinellas county getting away with this for years. Now a world sized spotlight has shined on all of those shiftless worms. The more that Disco Mike flapped his gums on LKL - the worse he looked. I hope he takes his gold chains and "they're trying to make MY life hell" whine and goes on the whole talk show circuit now.

319 posted on 10/29/2003 7:40:50 PM PST by PeyersPatches (I have intestinal fortitude)

To: pickyourpoison

Husband in name only?

Girl friend Jodie (Jody?) - lives with her - fathered two children by her. To this old man, that is a HINO!

BTW, you asked about the other child.

It was reported on one of the many, many threads here, again, I have no idea which one(s), that MS had sired a boy born shortly before Terri's "accident." Rumors have it the boy is about 14 now. I can't remember if this was ever proven or not.

We need proof, FReepers!

320 posted on 10/29/2003 7:44:52 PM PST by Budge ( <>< .)

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