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Katrina Live Thread XII
Various ^ | 31 August 2005 | Various

Posted on 08/31/2005 4:00:15 PM PDT by NautiNurse

President Bush: "We are dealing with one of the worst national disasters in our nation's history." Push has appropriated vast federal resources to assist with the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

78,000 people are currently in shelters. New Orleans evacuation continues. 10,000 additional National Guard troops have been called to service.

Hospitals are running low on supplies, and public health concerns include water borne disease, poor sanitation, food and drinking water contamination and shortages, mosquitoes, carbon monixide poisoning from electricity generators, lack of childcare, and the special needs of the elderly.

Links to various news, local and state government websites:

WLOX TV Biloxi, Gulfport, Pascagula has link to locate family and friends (very slow load)

2theAdvocate - Baton Rouge Includes Slidell, St. John Parish, St. Bernard Parish updates, and other locations.

NOLA.com

Inside Houma Today includes shelter and volunteer updates

WLBT.com Jackson MS

WALA Channel 4 Mobile, AL Includes links to distribution centers, Emergency Ops, etc.

Sun-Herald Gulfport MS Includes link to town by town reports

Gulfport News via Topix.net

WAFB Baton Rouge

Mobile Register via al.com

Mississippi updates via Jackson Ledger

Lafayette LA Daily Advertiser

Pensacola News Journal

St Bernard Local Government
Alabama Homeland Security Volunteers can sign up online
Alabama DOT
Alabama.gov
Louisiana Homeland Security
Louisiana State Police road closure info
State of Mississippi Website has traffic alerts, emergency contact numbers

Streaming Video:

WWL-TV: http://www.khou.com/perl/common/video/wmPlayer.pl?title=beloint_khou&props=livenoad

WDSU-TV: http://mfile.akamai.com/12912/live/reflector:38843.asx"

WPMI-TV: http://www.wpmi.com/mediacenter/default.aspx?videoId=113739

WKRG-TV: mms://wmbcast.mgeneral.speedera.net/wmbcast.mgeneral/wmbcast_mgeneral_aug262005_1435_95518

WTOK-TV (follow the link on the home page): http://www.wtok.com/

WJTV-TV: mms://wmbcast.mgeneral.speedera.net/wmbcast.mgeneral/wmbcast_mgeneral_aug262005_1435_95563

Gulf Coast Storm Network (radio): http://www.stormalert.net/main.html#


Related FR Threads:

FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread

Discussion Thread - Hurricane Katrina - What Went Wrong?!?

Post Hurricane Katrina IMAGES Here

Looting Begins In New Orleans

Martial Law Declared in New Orleans


Due to the number of requests to assist, the following list of some charities is provided.
This is not intended as an endorsement for any of the charities.

www.redcross.org or 1-800 HELP NOW - note: website is slow
Salvation Army - 1-800-SAL-ARMY or Salvation Army currently looking for in-state volunteers - (888)363-2769
Operation Blessing: (800) 436-6348.
America's Second Harvest: (800) 344-8070.
Catholic Charities USA: (800) 919-9338, or www.catholiccharitiesusa.org.
Christian Reformed World Relief Committee: (800) 848-5818.
Church World Service: (800) 297-1516 or online at www.churchworldservice. org.
Lutheran Disaster Response: (800) 638-3522.
Nazarene Disaster Response: (888) 256-5886.
Presbyterian Disaster Assistance: (800) 872-3283.
Wal-Mart Stores Inc. is accepting donations at its 3,800 stores and Web site, www.walmart.com.

Previous Threads:

Katrina Live Thread, Part XI
Katrina Live Thread, Part X
Katrina Live Thread, Part IX
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VIII
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VII
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VI
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part V
Hurricane Katrina, Live Thread, Part IV
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part III
Katrina Live Thread, Part II
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part I
Tropical Storm 12


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: Louisiana; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: hurricane; katrina; tropical
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To: maryz

But in reality, you can't really compare 9/11 scenario to the entire city of NO.

Think of the land mass that has been affected. 9/11 didn't affected the whole city, it only affected a small physical area of the city.

There were nearby shelters, and hospitals, and infrastructure all readily available to those affected.

In NO the scope of the thing is immense. I'm beginning to think we are understaffing the problem considering the scope of the situation and the fact that people are without food and water. It's going to take a lot more boots on the ground to get control...if the Gov of LA needs to order it, then somebody needs to say so out loud.

The President, or some official needs to "shame her into asking"...if that is truly the case and that is why a bigger presence hasn't shown up.

And as far as FEMA, well, don't they expect this kind of unrest during an emergency? If they haven't planned for that sort of thing, they need to rethink their plans for a major attack or disaster of any kind.


3,781 posted on 09/01/2005 9:29:59 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: All

If anyone has a good count on how many Guard are IN New Orleans now and a source for the number, and can pass it on, I'd greatly appreciate it.

Thanks.


3,782 posted on 09/01/2005 9:30:08 AM PDT by jeffers
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To: Cboldt
Count on it. The politicos cover for each other.

All I can say is I hope Congress freaking tries it, especially if it's liability from criminal prosecution.

3,783 posted on 09/01/2005 9:30:10 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Lady about to go into labor, asking for any medical assets...


3,784 posted on 09/01/2005 9:30:30 AM PDT by LikeLight
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To: Rutles4Ever
They will have to have a central AIRDROP area, secured and surrounded by our Military to hand out the food and water.

We have to take the chance to save these people..

sw

3,785 posted on 09/01/2005 9:31:18 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: NautiNurse

More updates from Alexandria/Pineville this morning. Remember, you can DIRECTLY help refugees who are marooned in Central Louisiana, and know exactly how your charitable donation is being used. Just because these thousands of family escaped the city in time doesn't make them all that lucky. Remember, they're stranded here for the next several weeks and they've got no homes or jobs even if they choose to return to their southern parishes at some point in the uncertain future. Please don't abandon them after the headlines change to a more sensational topic!

And yes, the crime wave is spreading out of New Orleans. While it may seem trivial at first, I mentioned in an earlier post that someone broke into my car and stole my CD player and speakers during the early morning hours on Monday. However, as the days passed and I spoke to my landlord and other residents of Pineville, it has become apparent that the migration has brought a crime spree with it. The Pineville Civic Center at Kees Park is housing what has been described as a "rough crowd." My landlord does not believe it's a coincidence that the apartment complexes where the car stereos were boosted are not that far from that relief facility. And a concerted effort has been made to keep reports of these burglaries OUT of the local media, which I think is a disservice to everyone who is a potential target of these looters.

But I digress, because I want all of you to read these links and focus your assistance to the place where it really is needed the most. Now that a considerable percentage of the original motel guests have been evicted and relegated to shelters like the Rapides Parish Coliseum, it's important to concentrate on assisting them with their everyday basic needs like personal hygiene, classroom and automotive supplies.

Hundreds of students being absorbed by Rapides Parish schools -- see http://www.thetowntalk.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050901/NEWS01/509010323/1002

10,000 need shelter here (has good list of local places where you can offer help) -- see http://www.thetowntalk.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050901/NEWS01/509010331/1002

I'll post more info as it comes in.


3,786 posted on 09/01/2005 9:31:35 AM PDT by buickmackane (reporting from Pineville, Rapides Parish, LA)
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To: mhking

I believe it's truth, just because put a lot of people in a place without air conditioning, no toilet facilities, etc., and people are going to die. Add to that the fact that there is no water or food and more people are going to die.

Soon disease is going to set in in the form of diseases that cause added dehydration and more people will die unless somebody can start getting them out of there.


3,787 posted on 09/01/2005 9:32:35 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: buickmackane

Scanner stream back up at http://205.252.89.181:8000/live.m3u


3,788 posted on 09/01/2005 9:32:41 AM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal \m/("_")\m/)
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To: Peach

Question: Where are the looters PUTTING their ill-gotten gains?


3,789 posted on 09/01/2005 9:32:47 AM PDT by Carolinamom (Life is a journey, not a destination.)
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To: LikeLight
Waiver for cost-share requirements on emergency response for LA/MS/AL granted for 60 days, backdated to Monday. This puts 100% of the costs on the federal govt (they usually pick up 75%, with the state picking up the other 25%).

Question time.

3,790 posted on 09/01/2005 9:33:18 AM PDT by steveegg ($3.00 a gallon is the price you pay for ANWR! Start drilling or stop whining! - HT Falcon4.0)
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Defender 5 Sitrep: Hyatt cleared out by 100 Shore Patrolmen, sending people down now.
Defender 6: Airdrop water onto ramp?


3,791 posted on 09/01/2005 9:33:24 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Peach

yeah, carjackings on LSU campus rumors going on. Looting at a walmart. Gonzales outlet mall being looted now. Anarchy is spreading into BR


3,792 posted on 09/01/2005 9:33:48 AM PDT by Tiger Smack
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To: mewzilla

From NOLA

Deputies in need of rescue

9:54 am

Name: Patrina Thompson

Phone: 281-596-9396/ 713-933-4630

e-mail: patrina_thompson@yahoo.com

My Mother is Cpl. Delores Paige she works with the New Orleans Sheirff Department. I spoke with her about an hour ago, acordding to her in other deputies, along with the inmates, they were transported and trapped onto the Broad Bridge near the Time Picayunne Building, it is also between Tulane and Washington Streets. They have been there for the last four days with out any thing to eat or drink. Some officials came to get the inmates, but left the Deputies there standed I am very concerned for my mother because she is a diabetic and she says she has lost every thing . PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, Help my mother in the others. She also states that ther are people dying all around them. If she can get to some type of safe ground I will come and get her. Please send help.


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Murders in the Streets

9:48 am

Name: JR Mock

Home: 512-756-6205

Email: actnpotential@aol.com

Subject: My Hurricane Story -- Murders in the Streets

Story: I just talked to my neighbor who stayed behind at Camp and St. Mary. He walked along Jackson St and saw dead bodies everywhere from gun shoots. After coming upon two dead girls, probably around 12-15 yr old, he had to get out. Where is the national guard? We need help.


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Rescue needed at St. Mary of the Angels School

9:42 am

Name: Joseph Bach

Phone: 504-813-6275

e-mail: j_bach@bellsouth.net

I am principal of St. Mary of the Angels School in the 9th Ward of New Orleans. Three Franciscan Priests and about 70 people are on the third floor of my school and, the last I heard, are still there and are worried about food. Is there any way I can find out information about them or if they have been rescued? I am very concerned.





3,793 posted on 09/01/2005 9:33:52 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: LikeLight

"To: sheikdetailfeather

Lady about to go into labor, asking for any medical assets..."

Boil some string, push, and don't forget to breathe. Tie off the cord twice a couple inches apart, before cutting it. It's been done without medical assistance for right at one million years.

Not being mean, that's the best she can reasonably hope for.


3,794 posted on 09/01/2005 9:34:37 AM PDT by jeffers
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To: Carolinamom

These looters are probably setting up "MAD MAX" type safe houses. Stocking food, drink and guns. A gang-land territorial stockade.


3,795 posted on 09/01/2005 9:35:14 AM PDT by Broker (Semper Fi)
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To: Tiger Smack
Anarchy is spreading into BR

What is the source of this information?

3,796 posted on 09/01/2005 9:35:26 AM PDT by Smogger
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Missed the 1st question. Second question about the speed of the federal response.


3,797 posted on 09/01/2005 9:35:36 AM PDT by steveegg ($3.00 a gallon is the price you pay for ANWR! Start drilling or stop whining! - HT Falcon4.0)
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To: dawn53
But in reality, you can't really compare 9/11 scenario to the entire city of NO.

The only comparison I made is that the left shut up for a few months after 9/11; to the extent this is larger, you'd think the left would be even more willing to put aside political gain as their first goal. I heard on Rush Hillary wants hearings on gas price-gouging to start immediately, e.g.

3,798 posted on 09/01/2005 9:35:41 AM PDT by maryz
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To: uncbob

That's the place to start uncbob.

I'll never forget several years ago while working as lifestyles editor of a daily newspaper typing up a birth announcement:

He (the baby) is the son of SINGLE WOMAN, the grandson of SINGLE WOMAN, the great-grandson of SINGLE WOMAN.

Who needs Daddys when there is that big Sugar Daddy up there in Washington D.C. to take care of you?


3,799 posted on 09/01/2005 9:35:58 AM PDT by girlangler (I'd rather be fishing)
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To: Abigail Adams
Both. But the Mayor and the Governor should have had the sense to have a plan in place in case of a hurricane, wouldn't you think? And wouldn't it have occurred to them to have--if not on hand at least at the ready--means of getting people out of NO in case of major flooding?

I mean if they have buses available now, why weren't those buses mobilized BEFORE the hurricane came on shore? They had 24-48 hours to mobilize them before disaster struck. And the Superdome--why in the world was it not set up to provide--in case of an emergency--water and sanitation to thousands? Portapotties could serve when toilets or sewers back up--so have them stored near if not on that facility

Same with water--if a bus can get to the SD to transport people out--why couldn't have buses been sent in the day after the hurricane filled with water--and food?

These are many basic commom sense things that I can think of--and if I can think of them, why did not the people responsible for the well-being of their constituents think of them? Before disaster struck?

3,800 posted on 09/01/2005 9:36:12 AM PDT by milagro
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