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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: wardaddy; Admin Moderator
The bannings and suspensions here are highly subjective and nowadays almost always involve folks critical of Bush or the RINOs.,,,although folks are no longer banned just for saying Minutemen admittedly but you guys are sure editorializing the stew out of those Sidebar titles.

To be fair, I think wardaddy has a point. I've always used the same criteria in flagging articles when I posted them, but just the past month or so, one of the mods has brought it to my attention that I was doing it incorrectly- and apparently I had been doing it for years. Also, I never knew that FR apparently regards WorldNetDaily and Newsmax articles as 'chat' or something- never to posted under 'Breaking', even if there's new info that the lib media has left out of their spoonfed pap.

It was a polite exchange all the way with the Mod, and I conformed to the forum rules once I knew about them- but why the change now? Perhaps because articles clearly in favor of border control are regarded as less favorable? One can only wonder.

As a side issue, those posting rules need to be put on a permanent page, not some thread from 6 months ago that I never saw before.

2,701 posted on 05/18/2006 3:58:33 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (My donation to the GOP went here instead: http://www.minutemanhq.com/hq/index.php)
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To: Cboldt

Couldn't resist it, could you?


2,702 posted on 05/18/2006 3:59:51 AM PDT by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: Badray
You make it sound as though the frying pan is a safe place to be. Here's a clue -- That's where they tenderize and season you as you slowly get cooked.

However, when being slowly cooked, you have a small chance of escaping. If the Dims get control, they'll put us all on a spit.

2,703 posted on 05/18/2006 4:16:36 AM PDT by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: iluvgeorgie
After 2,662 posts, finally a post worthy of Pukin Dog's rant. You hit it right on the head with the comparison with Truman. President Bush is the leader of a Great Country, not the just leader of the Republican party. His position on the immigration issues are those of a moral man, not a devious planner like too many here seem to think.
If the time ever comes where we have to annihilate an entire city or country full of suicidal maniacs that want to destroy us and our way of life, President Bush or someone just like him is the man I want making that decision.
2,704 posted on 05/18/2006 4:27:56 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Dixie Yooper
If the time ever comes where we have to annihilate an entire city or country full of suicidal maniacs that want to destroy us and our way of life, President Bush or someone just like him is the man I want making that decision.

True.

Let's just hope it's not one of our own cities.

2,705 posted on 05/18/2006 4:54:22 AM PDT by evad
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To: sam_paine; Lead Moderator; Pukin Dog
No kool aid. Just seeing if you have a plan of action, or if you're just a foo fighter.

Hey, what was all that rhetoric about not calling people names?

Oh, I get it -- one-way street.

2,706 posted on 05/18/2006 5:03:51 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: OldFriend

I know. Just wanted to make it clear what kind of lowlifes we put in office in this state.


2,707 posted on 05/18/2006 5:13:44 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: George W. Bush
I thought Gephardt only pretended to be pro-life until he ran for prez.

That's the point. ;-)

Casey is no different. I remember him campaiging for a mega-pro abort for State Senate in my district.

And Bonior is pro-life? G'wan.

Well, he wasn't BUT I'm 99.9 percent sure he claimed to be.

2,708 posted on 05/18/2006 5:16:12 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Toby06

I'll stand up for my friends...no matter the consequences.


2,709 posted on 05/18/2006 5:17:20 AM PDT by trussell (Where are we going, and why am I in this handbasket?)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Bravo to post 1,069!


2,710 posted on 05/18/2006 5:17:51 AM PDT by apackof2 (That Girl is a Cowboy)
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To: TaxRelief

I'm in the Northeast. It really doesn't seem to be that big a topic here. Granted the national conservative talk shows (Rush, Laura) are giving it a lot of play and some of that has filtered down.


2,711 posted on 05/18/2006 5:22:26 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: nopardons; Toby06
It's the rest of your page which is disgusting, not funny, not clever, and in extremely bad taste. You should rethink and redo it.

Toby06, what's up with that? What point are you trying to make?

2,712 posted on 05/18/2006 5:33:13 AM PDT by Fury
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To: SeaWolf

The peole who didn't vote for Bush 41 gave us Clinton.


2,713 posted on 05/18/2006 5:36:17 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: trebb

Or the warmth puts you to sleep. Jumping out of the pan gives you a chance to run away before you get too badly damaged.


2,714 posted on 05/18/2006 5:36:27 AM PDT by Badray (My fingers are tired,my nose hurts and I can't breathe. When can I vote for someone good?)
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To: LK44-40; MHGinTN
It is good to know that some are keeping lists, like volunteer Stasi, to assist in hoped for purges. [/sarcasm]

Concurring and supporting bump-and-ping.

2,715 posted on 05/18/2006 5:42:47 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Tribune7

NJ is second only to Louisiana for corrupt low life America hating elected officials.


2,716 posted on 05/18/2006 5:43:22 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: Tribune7
And now those same people who didn't vote for the re-election of the first President Bush want to give our troops another Clinton.

How shameful!

2,717 posted on 05/18/2006 5:45:08 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: Lead Moderator
"No! Get them box cars ready! Round them up! Mine the borders! Anyone crossing the border, shoot them on sight! 12 million Al-quaeda terrorists is enough!"

You're pretty funny. On a Middle East thread, and substituting the word "Palestinian" for "Al-quaeda", this type of ranting is perfectly acceptable.

2,718 posted on 05/18/2006 5:47:00 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Dixie Yooper
The same people who decried slick willie's attention only to his own supporters and thought the rest of us should go to hell are now demanding that same corrupt alegiance to themselves at the expense of the entire country.

Hypocritical in the extreme.

2,719 posted on 05/18/2006 5:47:05 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: ClancyJ

You can bet there is a very organized effort by our enemies to destroy this place. Many of them have been here for years pretending to be libertarians, reformers and pukananites and now see their opportunity. Do not automatically assume an old Freeper is a Conservative, especially if he uses insulting names for the President of the United States.

Pray for W and Our Troops


2,720 posted on 05/18/2006 5:49:52 AM PDT by bray (The only thing lower than Bush' numbers are the press')
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