Skip to comments.11,000-Year-Old Grain Shakes Up Beliefs On Beginnings Of Agriculture
Posted on 06/19/2006 1:04:07 PM PDT by blam
Jun. 18, 2006 0:24 | Updated Jun. 18, 2006 10:45
11,000-year-old grain shakes up beliefs on beginnings of agriculture
By JUDY SIEGEL-ITZKOVICH
Bar-Ilan University researchers have found a cache of 120,000 wild oat and 260,000 wild barley grains at the Gilgal archaeological site near Jericho that date back 11,000 years - providing evidence of cultivation during the Neolithic Period.
The research, performed by Drs. Ehud Weiss and Anat Hartmann of BIU's department of Land of Israel studies and Prof. Mordechai Kislev of the faculty of life sciences, appears in the June 16 edition of the prestigious journal Science.
It is the second time in two weeks that Kislev and Hartmann have had an article in Science. They recently wrote about their discovery of 10,000-year-old cultivated figs at the same Jordan Valley site.
According to the researchers, the newest find shows that the transition from nomadic food gathering and the beginning of agriculture were quite different than previously thought. Until now, the general assumption has been that agriculture was begun by a single line of human efforts in one specific area. But the BIU researchers found a much more complicated effort undertaken by different human populations in different regions, drawing a completely new picture of the origins of agriculture.
Agriculture, the BIU researchers suggest, originated through human manipulations of wild plants - sometimes involving the same species - that took place in various spatially and temporally distinct communities. Moreover, some of these occasions were found to be much earlier than previously thought possible.
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I can't decide if this explains lite beer, or the later Schlitz.
Someone cooked the barley and then let it sit in the pot.
It's the same process of making sour dough breads...
Yeast floating in the air innoculate the moist dough.
Good stuff. It will do for breakfast.
yuck! frosty mud?!
i'll stick with a Guinness...
"nings Of Agriculture, Red Badger wrote:
How does one "discover" beer? Wine I can see. Grape juice, sits in storage till it ferments and viola, you've got wine. Beer, on the other hand, requires a scientific approach to brewing ingredients, cooking, fermenting, etc. One does not accidentally come upon beer, it must be planned and researched........."
For what we would call modern, drinkable beer true. We have the medieval scholastic monks to thank for that...most all of what we now know as beer came from their experimentation.
However, just a fermented grain drink...requires no great science. Leave some grain in a container (even a hole in rock) of water for a few days, strain out the grain, and the result is beer. Easier almost than wine. Not very potable by our standards, but in neolithic times, I'm sure lovely. Archeologically, "beer" just means a brew from fermented grains, not Bitberger Pilsener, or Chimay Red, hence to be a basic beer, doesn't mean what we know of as beer today.
Besides usually the craftsmenship of the ancient world is greater than we imagine. They may well have had a potable grain beverage (beer) that we would find delicious.
In King Midas' tomb, the remnents of the evaporated beverage s in the chalices were analyzed...finding a sophisticated brewed mix of grape must, honey, and barley all brewed together (like a combination of wine, mead and beer...but not mixed, but fermented at the same time). I've had Dogfish Head brewery's attempt at recreating it, and it is a very delicious beerwinemead...which doesn't fit any category of taste I've known. We shouldn't think the ancients as tasteless!
*** she changed the water, which was used for the bath, into an excellent beer, by the sheer strength of her blessing and dealt it out to the thirsty in plenty."***
Isn't that what the nut that started the AUM SHIN RYKIO cult did with his bath water? he is the one responsible for the Tokyo subway poison gas attacks. ( His was not changed to beer.)
Naw. The guys were making beer from sand long before cereal crops were domesticated.
I saw a program on the Discovery Channel several years ago that followed a colony (or whatever a group is called) of either baboons or monkeys for a whole year. It was compressed into a one hour program but at one point in the season, apples or some other fruit ripened and fell from the tree and began to rot on the ground. This would lead to natural fermentation from the heat, sugar, and yeast. The baboons would eat the fermenting fruit and get drunk. The film footage of these drunk baboons staggering around and finally falling down to pass out and sleep it off was really hilarious. Seems like it was in the Kalahari.
Does that mean there are strings attached?
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Such drivelous nonsense. I was sitting at the Bobst Library at New York University in the late 70s reading all about theories about multiple points of origin for agriculture. What they are claiming as "new" is really OLD news.
recently wrote about their discovery of 10,000-year-old cultivated figs at the same Jordan Valley site.So, for the first THOUSAND YEARS, no one could make a fig newton. Not my kind of place.
Is it too late to turn this grain into extremely pre-aged Bourbon?
What I'd like to know is, who counted them? /grin
Bears can be mean drunks.
I thought that had to be a photoshop from Nick Nolte's mugshot, but the ugly aloha shirts don't match.
Viola! Music hath charms to tame the wild yeast?
Wild yeast, wild grain, wild hops, water, and wild honey = wild nights, for those who on the honeyed dew hath fed.
Like sourdough, this gives sour beer?
Next thing you know, you have Wally Cox singing "There's A Tavern In The Town"...soon followed by Slim Dusty complaining about a "Tavern With No Beer".
At that point, he tripped, splashing them with the brew, giving rise to the old toast, "Here's mud in your eye!"
I suspect serious beer making came before serious bread making, myself...
wow - that's what my wife said, too!
it's full of iron. you see signs in ireland saying "guinness is good for you". i believe 'em.
No, a girl named Viola. You know: A jug of wine, a loaf of bread, and thou..............The Rubayyat of Omar Khayyam
Spontaneous Fermentation? Is that like The Immaculate Transubstantiation?.............
Johnny Marijuana Seed had been by there in olden times.........67-72.................8^)........
Actually Master Franklin was close to the truth, but not quite there.
There are, in fact, three things that prove both the existance of G-d, and that he wants us to be happy:
That's because He loves us!;-)
If the world is as it seems, there will always be Johnny PotSeeds roaming the earth.
i think i just sinned thinking about drinking the bath water of a nun and saint... so many things to comment on like maundy Thirsty... to paschal time...
and another thing... is this what lies ahead for the new seed depository in the arctic... some guy digging it up 10,000 years from now and wondering if they'll germinate... seems we can save some bucks and just use all these seeds...
it'll turn out they didn't plant these seeds because they caused a plague to the fields so they hid them in an underground cache so no one would sow them... how lucky are we....
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