Skip to comments.Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.
One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to rule over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.
All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.
FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?
Do you really expect me to do that?
The Presidency is just too dangerous a position to give to a sick person.
I hadn’t even thought about Rudy and McCain having cancer. Now I have two reasons each to not vote for them.
I can just hear the clicking of Pelosi’s high heels.
I don’t know. But I’m guessing you’re pulling 100% for the media’s choice again this time.
Is that a macro, because you post it every single time you post to me; and YOU post to me; I never post to you because you are so utterly useless it's a waste of time.
I remember the miers thread where you first pulled that on me.
You're a one trick pony. And boring as hell.
Are you just trying to see how much you can get away with before youre banned?
Is that some kind of threat? You seem to think you have some pull here that can get me banned; give it your best shot, punk.
And you ARE a punk. Always have been, always will be.
Another freeper who doesn’t know how to trace back posts. My post mentioned that this was all when Reagan was Governor of California. Keep up with the posts already :-)
He WAS a good spokesperson for the conservative cause. But his last campaign significantly damaged his credibility.
Click on the name(Texwhatever)...Opus was in the form of a standard eviction notice.
Is there some new rule I missed tonight about people who support one candidate not being allowed on other candidate’s threads?
You people are turning into worse locksteppers than damn liberals.
Bush wasn’t my original candidate in 2000!
I would like a statement from you that genuine conservatives, in working through the important issues of our day, can disagree. We can come to different conclusions. Our analyses may differ. We can make our best cases to persuade each other without resorting to "you're a treasonous liberal" BS.
Or, I would like you to politely ask the Giuliani supporters to leave, since our efforts contradict your desires. I would heartily respect either position.
But calling Giuliani supporters names is disgusting.
That doesn’t refute the facts as stated. Despite his budget and tax-cutting prowess, when he left office New York had the highest tax burden of any major municipality. Their taxes when he took office were so high that he could cut it by large amounts and still have higher taxes than other cities (like a 300-pound man losing his first 10 pounds is a lot easier than a 150-pound man taking off the last 10).
And while they projected a surplus in the first outyear, that was based on a proposed 2 billion tax cut that had no chance of passing, and in fact the ACTUAL deficit 3 years later was billions, in part because borrowed money which Rudy used to fund the government in leu of taxes came due while the economy he thought would pay it off collapsed due to 9/11, because Rudy had no plan for economic downturn.
It is widely acknowledged that Michael Bloomberg is a better financial manager than Rudy was.
You made the point that he was pro-abortion when he was Governor of CA. OK. When he ran for president, he was pro-life.
So is your point that if Reagan was once wrong on something then it is OK that Giuliani is wrong on it now? Or is your point that Giuliani is pro-life now?
Thank you for proving, once and for all, precisely what many of us have suspected about you all along. You've exposed your true nature. We were right about you and we're likely right about everyone associated with you here.
ROFL. Excuse me for not typing more, but I'm laughing so hard I can barely see the screen.
In what universe is a mayor who endorses the "sanctuary city" nonsense strong on national security?
And that was being strong on terrorism how? I bet he got a real good deal?
When Reagan changed from a Democrat to a Republican and pro choice to pro life, he was embraced. When other Republicans do it, the “perfect conservatives” on FR call it pandering.