Skip to comments.DNA Sheds Light On Minoans
Posted on 04/04/2008 8:02:26 AM PDT by blam
DNA sheds light on Minoans
Cretes fabled Minoan civilization was built by people from Anatolia, according to a new study by Greek and foreign scientists that disputes an earlier theory that said the Minoans forefathers had come from Africa.
The new study a collaboration by experts in Greece, the USA, Canada, Russia and Turkey drew its conclusions from the DNA analysis of 193 men from Crete and another 171 from former neolithic colonies in central and northern Greece.
The results show that the countrys neolithic population came to Greece by sea from Anatolia modern-day Iran, Iraq and Syria and not from Africa as maintained by US scholar Martin Bernal.
The DNA analysis indicates that the arrival of neolithic man in Greece from Anatolia coincided with the social and cultural upsurge that led to the birth of the Minoan civilization, Constantinos Triantafyllidis of Thessalonikis Aristotle University told Kathimerini.
Until now we only had the archaeological evidence now we have genetic data too and we can date the DNA, he said.
There have been earlier suggestions that the Minoans are related to people in western Asia Minor. There are some similar place names in Crete (words with -ss- like Tylissos) to places in Asia Minor (e.g. Halicarnassus).
I didn't have the expertise to evaluate most of what he wrote, but what I did have the knowledge to evaluate was all wrong, completely. So I made my judgment on what I did know. What a load of steaming crap!!
Martin Bernal is an Afrocentrist, and therefore a hack.
He insists that the civilization of Ancient Greece came from Africa, as did Ancient Egypt and just about any other advanced ancient civilzation.
In academics, Afrocentric history is the equivalent of being a flat earth proponet or a 9-11 Troofer.
He is not serious and is not taken seriously by anyone except the most extreme liberal hacks in academia.
Even at Berkeley, where I am, he’s not taken seriously by anyone in the History or Classics departments.
I don’t know what they think over at Black Studies. I only deal with real subjects.
I dont know what they think over at Black Studies. I only deal with real subjects.
Now that was not a nice thing to say!!!!!
How is Berkeley? I left in 1972.
I thought Anatolia was mostly Turkey?
"Anatolia modern-day Iran, Iraq and Syria"
Don't point out Neo-Meccan revisionism, you'll enrage the Irani-Syrian-(Trying to incite Iraqi) jihadi fronts
EVERYONE KNOWS ANATOLIA INCLUDED MODERN DAY IRAN, SYRIA and IRAQ!
Thanks Blam.Crete's fabled Minoan civilization was built by people from Anatolia, according to a new study by Greek and foreign scientists that disputes an earlier theory that said the Minoans' forefathers had come from Africa.Bravo! A toast to Herodotus, and another to Barry Fell!
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Anatolia? You’d have to stretch that a tad, to include Iraq, Iran and Syria. I suppose a small overlap could be argued but at best the writer is confusing things.
Perhaps nailing down the geographic origin will help scholars decipher the Minoan language.
Thanks for the clarification. I had never heard that Minoans came from Africa before.
I have thought that the Minoan of the Palace period is related to Luuvian and the fact that to get to Greece from Southern Anatolia you have to go West to go North, Currents.
Yep. He lost me with that cockeyed definition of Anatolia.
Bernal likes to accuse his opponents of racism--he constructs what he calls an "Aryan Model" of conventional views, insinuating it's somehow linked to Nazi ideas, and has no hesitation about smearing very honorable scholars with baseless allegations. It's all essentially agitprop--tearing down "bourgeois" scholarship in the name of socialism.
Does he go to Trinity United Church of Christ?
He is a professor emeritus at Cornell...not sure if he still lives in Ithaca but pretty sure he doesn’t attend TUCC. In fact, I’d be surprised if he attends any church.
The Prehistoric Archaeology of the AegeanDuring the reign of the heretical pharoah Akhenaten (= Amenhotep IV), the capital of Egypt was moved downstream from Thebes to the new city of Akhetaten (= modern Tell el-Amarna). This city was only occupied from ca. 1352-1338 B.C., and the large quantities of Mycenaean pottery found within it are therefore supplied with a fairly precise absolute date. The almost complete absence of Minoan pottery at Amarna is one indication of Mycenaean mercantile dominance within the Aegean at this time. More significant is the Mycenaean character of the settlements which have by this time replaced sites characterized until the end of the LM IB period (ca. 1500 B.C.) by Minoan cultural remains at Trianda on Rhodes, Ayia Irini on Keos, Phylakopi on Melos, and Miletus and Iasos in Asia Minor.
Lesson 18: The Nature and Extent of
Neopalatial Minoan Influence
in the Aegean and Eastern Mediterranean Worlds
Aegean Connections With Egypt
In The Amarna Period (ca. 1360-1340 B.C.)
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