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First dino 'blood' extracted from ancient bone (more evidence for young earth creation!)
New Scientist ^ | April 30, 2009 | Jeff Hecht

Posted on 05/01/2009 8:25:18 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

A dinosaur bone buried for 80 million years has yielded a mix of proteins and microstructures resembling cells. The finding is important because it should resolve doubts about a previous report that also claimed to have extracted dino tissue from fossils...

(Excerpt) Read more at newscientist.com ...


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61 posted on 05/01/2009 9:16:12 AM PDT by sauropod (People who do things are people that get things done.)
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To: mnehring
Theistic Evolution

I wonder why I never get a response to my chart of millions of years on the geologic time line concluding with the advent of writing 0.004 million years ago and the writing of Hebrews 0.002 million years ago-from either side?

62 posted on 05/01/2009 9:16:13 AM PDT by BuglerTex
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To: mentor2k; GodGunsGuts; mnehring

“There IS NO EVIDENCE for a young earth!!!”

There you go.

That’s proof enough for me. I feel so blessed that you answered that for all of us. I’ve wasted so much of my life believing that the Bible is true and now I finally have the answer! In one small statement you have given us the scientific answer we’ve all been waiting for. The supposed “Word of God” is nothing but a bird cage liner.

May the earth bless you and the sun be your friend for all eternity!


63 posted on 05/01/2009 9:17:45 AM PDT by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - Jesus said, "I am THE way, THE truth and THE life." Any questions?)
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To: GodGunsGuts

It is your claim that mary schweitzer is a creationist?

How is finding blood and soft tissue supportive of creation? Would creation have happened before or after the pocket of tissue was sealed in rock and heated to kill all germs?


64 posted on 05/01/2009 9:18:10 AM PDT by donmeaker (Invicto)
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To: Gordon Greene

I am glad that you have come over to believing in evidence rather than the self promoting blather of poorly educated blowhards in cheap suits.

There may be hope for us yet.


65 posted on 05/01/2009 9:19:32 AM PDT by donmeaker (Invicto)
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To: AZ .44 MAG

Remember, when you look in the mirror, you see a monkey.

Me, not so much.


66 posted on 05/01/2009 9:20:41 AM PDT by donmeaker (Invicto)
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To: mentor2k

Bible says it was six yom...days.
Genesis doesn’t say a thing about any conversion rate, as you suggest.

Everywhere the word yom is used in the OT, it simply means an ordinary day.
So it looks like “day” to me.

The day-age theory that you hint at is an attempt to reconcile non-creationistic theories with the Biblical account. As if to suggest; “Well I really want to believe the non-God theory about origins, but still hold onto my belief in God and the Bible. Rather double minded thinking, if someone were to ask me. But no one did, so I’ll just keep that line of reasoning where it stands.

However, please allow me to suggest another question...
If a person believes in God, a Creator, Redeemer, Savior, why is it so difficult to believe in the literal creation acoount? I mean if a person can belief God can raise a dead man to life and thorugh His atonement, save all who have faith in Him...then believing that this same Savior can create everything out of nothing...well, that’s easy to believe! Now believing He could forgive the sins of a serial killer who murdered someone I knew or loved...THAT is difficult for me to comprehend.

Pardon my rather introspective musing here.
But, I post it because you replied to me.


67 posted on 05/01/2009 9:20:51 AM PDT by woollyone (I believe God created me- you believe you're related to monkeys. Of course I laughed at you!)
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To: AZ .44 MAG

==I’ll just relax and enjoy the ride on HMS Creation.

That’s the spirit! See you on the Lido Deck for some swimming and some shuffleboard :o)


68 posted on 05/01/2009 9:23:10 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: donmeaker
Got any references to creationists who do like actual science rather than quote mining? Any thought experiments to help come up with a testable hypothesis?

Don't hold your breath.

69 posted on 05/01/2009 9:23:51 AM PDT by wireman
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To: GodGunsGuts

Whoops, just saw your ping to me.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2241706/posts?page=113#113


70 posted on 05/01/2009 9:25:56 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: donmeaker

Nope, it would appear that Mary Schweitzer has fallen for a theistic version of evolution. Perhaps this will help to snap her out of Darwood’s spell and open her eyes to the glory of God’s wondrous creation!

As for finding blood and soft tissue in multiple dinos, isn’t it obvious that this find is far more supportive of young earth/biblical creation than darwood’s deep-time/atheist creation myth?


71 posted on 05/01/2009 9:28:53 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: stormer; mnehring; GodGunsGuts

““A dinosaur bone buried for 80 million years...
encased in sandstone for 80 million years...
reveal more about dinosaur evolution...””

“Do you have a point, or are you mearly trying to illustrate you profound ignorance?”

See that is the point... all of the statements you quoted above are based on assumptions made by scientists, not proven science. Evolution is still a theory as are the assumptions about dating. The entire article is based on scientific theory and assumption, not scientific fact. The honest question of “How did these things that were found survive for 80 million years?” is not being asked by you or the writers of the story. If you were objective you would be asking that question yourself instead of just slamming the poster of the story just to try and prop up your previously determined opinions.

But you’re not objective, now are you?


72 posted on 05/01/2009 9:30:09 AM PDT by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - Jesus said, "I am THE way, THE truth and THE life." Any questions?)
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To: donmeaker; GodGunsGuts

“I am glad that you have come over to believing in evidence rather than the self promoting blather of poorly educated blowhards in cheap suits.

There may be hope for us yet.”

Define “hope”. Hope in what?


73 posted on 05/01/2009 9:31:35 AM PDT by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - Jesus said, "I am THE way, THE truth and THE life." Any questions?)
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To: Gordon Greene

You’re welcome.


74 posted on 05/01/2009 9:37:33 AM PDT by mentor2k
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To: Gordon Greene
The honest question of “How did these things that were found survive for 80 million years?” is not being asked by you or the writers of the story.

Actually, in the past several years there's been an onslaught of scientific research done by people who asked themselves that same question. And it's not hard to find.

75 posted on 05/01/2009 9:38:06 AM PDT by gdani (I've got a new road under my wheels)
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To: woollyone; mentor2k
Everywhere the word yom is used in the OT, it simply means an ordinary day.

Err... what Old Testament are you using? Yom has many different uses in the Old Testament.

For example, in 67 verses in the Old Testament, the word Yom is translated into the English word "time." For instance, in Genesis 4:3, it says "And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the Lord." In this instance, Yom refers to a growing season, probably several months. Again, in Deuteronomy 10:10, it refers to a "time" equal to forty days. In I Kings 11:42, it says "And the time that Solomon reigned in Jerusalem over all Israel was forty years." In this case, Yom translated as the word "time" is equivalent to a 40 year period. In Isaiah 30:8, it says "Now go, write it before them in a table, and note it in a book, that it may be for the time to come for ever and ever." In this case, Yom is equal to "forever." How long is forever? An infinite number of years...billions upon billions upon billons of years. If Yom can equal trillions of years here, then why not billions of years in Genesis?

Four times in the Old Testament Yom is translated "year." In I Kings 1:1, "David was old and stricken in years..." In 2 Chronicles 21:19, "after the end of two years" and in the very next verse "Thirty and two years old." Finally, in Amos 4:4, "...and your tithes after three years." In each case, Yom represents years, not days.

Eight times in the Old Testament Yom is translated "age." These range from sentences like "stricken in age," meaning old age (Genesis 18:11 and 24:1; Joshua 23:1 and 23:2), and other times it says "old age" (Genesis 21:2, Genesis 21:7). Genesis 47:28 refers to "the whole age of Jacob," therefore yom here refers to an entire lifetime. In Zechariah 8:4, it says old men and women will sit in the streets of Jerusalem, "each with cane in hand because of his age."

One time Yom is translated "ago." 1 Samuel 9:20 says "As for the donkeys you lost three days ago, ..."

Four times yom is translated as "always," in Deuteronomy 5:29, 6:24, 14:23, and in 2 Chronicles 18:7. Always here can be interpreted as a lifetime...for instance, we are to keep the commandments of the Lord always (Deut. 5:29).

Three times yom is translated "season." In Genesis 40:4, "...and they continued a season in ward." Again, in Joshua 24:7, "dwelt in the wilderness a long season," and in 2 Chronicles 15:3, "...a long season Israel hath been...". In each case yom represents a multi-month period.

76 posted on 05/01/2009 9:38:39 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: donmeaker
Remember, when you look in the mirror, you see a monkey.

When I look in the mirror I see a man, created in God's image, capable of rational thought, and confident in the scientific method for discerning some of the more obvious workings of the universe.

What do you see?

77 posted on 05/01/2009 9:39:10 AM PDT by AZ .44 MAG (A society that doesn't protect its children doesn't deserve to survive.)
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To: gdani

Lay it out there for me, ghandi. I hate research. /sarc


78 posted on 05/01/2009 9:42:48 AM PDT by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - Jesus said, "I am THE way, THE truth and THE life." Any questions?)
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To: Gordon Greene; donmeaker

Why is donmeaker so angry all the time? I think he needs an encounter with Jesus Christ, the Risen Savior and Creator of the entire Universe and everything in it.

DM, you can start by falling to your knees and confessing your sins, read John 3:16, and pray that God will open your eyes and heart to receive His Word, and to finally see His wondrous creation.


79 posted on 05/01/2009 9:52:07 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: donmeaker
I would just deny them the benefit of evolutionary science.

Never a shortage of Christian haters on this board. If his theories are so cockamamie and stupid and preposterous, why all the vitriol? Ignore it. Why all the emotion?

Are any of the YECs making statements like "I would just deny them the benefit of NON-evolutionary science?" Of course not. But if these imaginary restrictions could be imposed, it would be you who wouldn't be able to get medical treatment, not the YECs. Which frankly just shows how little you really know and understand.

The evolutionists have replaced inquiry with dogma to a far greater extent than the YECs have. Otherwise the YECs would be getting a scientific explaination as to why blood cells should not have decayed after a few 100 million years, instead they get called names and attacked as less than human. How noble of the scientific community you are attempting to represent.

Oh the irony of how closed-minded the evolution believers come across on this board.

80 posted on 05/01/2009 9:55:19 AM PDT by Diplomat
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