Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid
Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]
Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)
Of course, I’m not talking about a newspaper, but about the State of Hawaii... and that’s a lot different...
http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2009/09-063.pdf
“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai‘i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”
And then #2 is important for the purpose of getting the birth certificate shown. And of course, #3, as you say, will be whenever the Supreme Court decides to take it up, which will also depend on a case making it up to them, in the first place...
First, three links that I found sunday are gone - poof.
Several images have been altered, some more than once, and nothing that is on the net today can possibly be considered reliable.
Lavender is a very common British name. The form shown is definately the true Kenyan Birth Certificate form of that era, but that in itself means little; a forger should be smart enough to use the correct form.
If Taitz and WND have taken the precautions that they claim, this should be a slam-dunk. The Joe Farah I know from his time as chief at the Sacramento Union is the Joe that I hope still exists, because he never left anything to chance.
That’s my understanding also. It seems to boil down to how serious is the country about its Constitution.
It’s a good theory. I’m not so sure about the 200 year time frame though. I think the chinese and the romans and possibly the egyptians stretched it out a bit more than that.
I would put us at complacency. We are still on the tails of “abundance”. And we are about to move past that by two big steps and into dependency. Obama might inadvertently shock us back a step, into complacency again. we’ll see what the next election looks like.
But you know what? The longer we linger at abundance and complacency, the harder I think the climb back out of bondage will be when it gets here.
Lots of similarities. And lots of differences. But Taitz has an actual document, not just digital pixels. To posit that her real paper document is a digital forgery based on this Bamford BC is rediculous on its face. The fact that the Bamford BC a) has some of the same identifying numbers, b) has some very similar names of officials, and c) was apparently posted to the web several years ago (although that could be forged) can only mean one of two things: a) It’s purely coincidental, or b) someone has been spending a lot of time and energy forging slight variations of a COLB (at least digitally,) spanning many years and several continents.
Hey! Machogirl! Are you Zo’s wife?
I didn’t see the list you are talking about, but if that’s true and the Constitution is that disrespected, we have a weaker case than I thought.
Yup, a typical sexual/political pervert.
Take a look at the absence of any distortion of the letters - either from the form or those typed in where they overly any of the folds.
Well, the image I posted is crystal clear through and through. The Obama BC has some pixel/resolution variations around the differences between them. This latest Obama BC is a fake in my opinion.
Looking at these pics I can see the resemblance to Ann, but to Barack Sr.? I think the daddy is someone else.
The original source only lists him as Eric Lavender. This was posted by me in the middle of the EF Lavender soap fuss to show that there really are people who could have the initials E _ Lavender. I don't think we have established that this person is E.F. himself.
One thing I did notice is the big difference in the fold locations as well as # of folds.
IMO, if one of them is a fake of the other, that's some pretty impressive photo editing.
As far as I know, editing substantial 3-D folds (that are very irregular linearly and depth)
is far more difficult than...say, 2-D fonts and/or images.
Why are you even trying to judge the authenticity of an actual paper document based on its digital image? The question isn't whether the image has been photoshopped, but whether the actual paper document is valid. Nothing else is relevant.
I wonder how many of us there are.
Someone mentioned other President with a foreign-born parent, so I did a look-up of it...
Only six other U.S. presidents had a foreign-born parent. Mr. Obama will be the first in nearly ninety years, since President Herbert Hoover was inaugurated in 1929.
Andrew Jackson (1829-1837) is the only president born of two immigrants, both Irish. Presidents with one immigrant parent are Thomas Jefferson (1801-1809), whose mother was born in England, James Buchanan (1857-1861) and Chester Arthur (1881-1885), both of whom had Irish fathers, and Woodrow Wilson (1913-1921) and Herbert Hoover (1929-1933), whose mothers were born respectively in England and Canada.
That’s the info that I found...
I don’t know how it was done, but there is enough similarity to establish a relationship between the two documents. OK...and which one is the fake? I’m guessing the Obama one is fake.
I mentioned a few weeks ago and am still leaning toward the belief that Obama may not have a birth certificate from any country.Yes, I think he was born in Kenya, like his grandma says. However, it has not been that many years ago that babys born here at home in the states had their birth recorded in the family Bible. I knew guys in the service that had that and only that to prove who they were. Now, back in the 60’s, it takes no stretch of the immagination to believe his mom could have boarded a flight back to the states,US Passport in hand, babe in arms, and never be questioned about the baby. Once in HI, the colb, as we all know, would be easy to obtain. No computers back in the 60’s allowed many a person to be able to change their identity, and many people in trouble with the law did just that.I think thats whyBOM is not worried about anyone finding his BC, it likely does not exist.That is another reason why he does not produce it, he doesn’t have one.
No doubt. I see NO resemblance. The slope of the forehead, the lack of earlobes, round face. These are all dominant traits and surely ONE would have come through.
Not to mention... I know skin color is not always the same. My cousin has 2 biracial daughters and her husband is quite dark. Neither daughter is the same skin tone.
However, most African Americans have some white ancestry. It seems from the line of Obama Sr that he has less white ancestry than a lot from this country.
Obama is awful light skinned. As a very unscientific observation.
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