Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid
Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]
Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)
But to even ask for discovery you have to make some initial showing that this thing might be real. To do that, Orly has to say where and how she got it. She doesn't even say that much in her motion.
That point of grammar has actually been settled in case law. Typical, result to insults when facts don’t agree with you.
Wasn’t it possible to just board a ferry and ride from Vancouver to the U.S. without going through customs inspection?
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They certainly have customs checks today on the ferries. I was just on a tandem ferry dock that had boats going into BC. Not too sure how strict it was in 1961..
The Aussie exhibit could well have been alteration of an actual Aussie BC,
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Have you seen any images to that effect?
Thanks for the html tips....few that I’d forgotten.
BTW we ARE dealing with some “afterbirthers” on this thread.
In the 1960’s you could go to Canada from the U.S.A. for a “sightseeing visit” with little or no hassle. You would be questioned about why you were entering, eyed for any suspicious behavior, then waved through. I was there in the back seat of my Dad’s Chevy.
I can tell you that travel between Canada and the U.S. in the 50s and 60s involved no customs or inspection. I rode that ferry, B.C. to Seattle, in 1960. Nothing like it would be today.
They could inspect you or your vehicle but rarely did. They would generally act only on the basis of suspicion.
The Northeast Intelligence Network and Canada Free Press are in possession of extremely sensitive investigative documents, including a stunning written admission by a nationally known talk show host stating that he was threatened with his career – or worse - should he talk about the issue of Barack Hussein Obama’s birth records to a national audience. This document was obtained on December 10, 2008, and provides explicit detail of a “gag order” imposed on this host before and immediately following the national election last November.”
Continued at the link you posted, here:
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/13373
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Wow, this is just BRUTAL. You know this is what we’re dealing with here. Chicago thug politics combined with libtard idiot guilt complex = GAG ORDER to the elitist press.
Sorry, wasn’t in the butt... was in his forearm, my bad
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Perhaps you were thinking of Forrest Gump’s wound in the butt-OCKS...:):)
Great post man!
save for my education thanks
The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
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(g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 288 of title 22 by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person
(A) honorably serving with the Armed Forces of the United States, or
(B) employed by the United States Government or an international organization as defined in section 288 of title 22, may be included in order to satisfy the physical-presence requirement of this paragraph. This proviso shall be applicable to persons born on or after December 24, 1952, to the same extent as if it had become effective in its present form on that date; and
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Now the question is, will the SCOTUS view this statute as having met the full requirements of the intention of the US Constitution. SCOTUS law is unsettled in that matter, and hasn’t addressed the specific proviso of letter (g) in the law.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_born_citizen
An additional argument against using Blackstone’s interpretation instead of Vattel can be found in George Mason’s statement at the Convention - “The common law of England is not the common law of these States.” As is pointed out at http://www.birthers.org/USC/Vattel.html, the common law definition was used by Great Britain as the justification for impressing American seamen into the British navy. We went to war in 1812 because we didn’t agree with this interpretation!
“Wikipedia says the EAS and pence were replaced in 1966 by the Kenyan shilling and cent, so PENCE would be correct in 1964 when it was created.”
Can you be more specific as to the source? What page at Wiki? TY
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This [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coins_of_the_East_African_shilling] seems to derail that. Kenya used cents, right along, as others have also affirmed with images of Kenyan cents from the 50s and 60s.
Fresh Wind pointed out a couple of other options for why the 7s 6d might have been used on a legit Kenyan doc:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2307402/posts?page=336#336
“It’s quite possible that British (shillings/pence) currency was used interchangably with the local (shillings/cents) currency.
It’s also possible that there was some confusion in the printing of these forms (they may well have been printed in Mother England).”
The real problem isn't one of laws, it is one of morals. You can make all the laws you wish, amoral men will still choose to circumvent them.
"A Republic, if you can keep it."
As you know, the term “natural born citizen” do not exist in any US statute (including 1401).
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Does ‘citizen at birth’ mean ‘natural born citizen?’ That is something I think the SCOTUS must decide. I’m not sure if they have the guts to take this on.
http://www.ski-pix.com/parliament/history_Steps_2_Independence.php
Madaraka Day
Final constitutional review and consultations were held in Nairobi in February 1963 at which agreement was reached for an Internal Self Government to assume office on June 01, 1963 , and full independence six months later. Since then, June 01, 1963 is remembered and celebrated as Madaraka Day. A general election was held in the period May 18-25, 1963 ; out of which the Kenya African National Union led by Mzee Jomo Kenyatta won an overall majority against the Kenya Democratic Union led by Mr. Ronald Gideon Ngala and the African People’s Party led by Mr. Paul Joseph Ngei.
http://www.ski-pix.com/parliament/history_Steps_2_Independence.php
“a handful of comparable documents showing “Republic of Kenya” in use ten months before it became part of their constitution.”
From early in 1963, Most everybody knew the type of government they would be associated with. I find plausible that an agency of the government would begin using the new stationary sometime after ______ “Final constitutional review and consultations were held in Nairobi in February 1963”______
Would it be impolite to hope Hillary breaks another arm, or something?
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