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Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link
orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid

Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]

Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.

Barry's Kenyan B.C.??

Special Motion for leave

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)


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To: Swordmaker

My 2 cents:

The second image is a photo"chop" job of the first. Pay close attention to the top of the "T" in "BIRTH" in the top right corner. Notice how the light reflection is the exact same as the 2nd photo"chop" image. Also notice to the left side of the photo"chop" image, bits and pieces of the "table cloth" can be seen that were left in, as well as the roughly edited edges that still retain some of the light reflection. It is my opinion that the 2nd image is just a clumsy touch-up of the first image.

Now for "is it real?" I honestly don't know. This is just my opinion about the two images that were provided.

721 posted on 08/02/2009 5:26:49 AM PDT by PureSolace (Trust in God)
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To: library user

The strip removed from the document could have been done to authenticate the age of the document.


722 posted on 08/02/2009 5:27:20 AM PDT by surfer
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To: woofie

Do ya think?? lol!


723 posted on 08/02/2009 5:27:37 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: maggief
I'm heading to church...New preacher today....must go. Glad you're here, I have confidence in your investigative powers.

Ping me to anything you think significant.

724 posted on 08/02/2009 5:28:08 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Mount Athos

His parent’s divorce.


725 posted on 08/02/2009 5:28:30 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: politicalmerc
Happy Birthday Obambi.....

good news....

Your missing birth certificate showed up....

You can stop spending all that cashon legal fees...

happy birthday.

726 posted on 08/02/2009 5:29:03 AM PDT by spokeshave (USA #1; Pirates -3...Voting them all out of office would be a sufficient pay cut)
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To: Eye of Unk
assuming its real if it can be accepted by Congress or the rest of America

Well, that's kind of a problem, looking ahead.

I've said for months that you can get any papers you want on the street in Mombasa, I'm quite sure I could produce a convincing Kenyan birth certificate for Eye of Unk containing any details you want, for the right price and given about six weeks.

Given the importance of this THIS paper, and given that the Director of Coast Provincial General Hospital went on record in January 2009 that he had searched the paper records for 1960-1961 and found no such document (linked at DU, YMMV), the ONLY way such a document will have any impact is for it to be authenticated by the Foreign and Commonwealth Office in London.

I don't imagine the present Government of Kenya would authenticate it, even if they were in a position to do so.

727 posted on 08/02/2009 5:29:47 AM PDT by Jim Noble (I hope Sarah will start a 2nd party soon)
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To: hoosiermama

I’ll do my best ...


728 posted on 08/02/2009 5:29:48 AM PDT by maggief
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To: PureSolace

Correct. Notice the red pixels (left of Signature of Registrar) from the background that the cleaner-upper clumsily missed.


729 posted on 08/02/2009 5:30:08 AM PDT by MrDem (From Morning in America to Mourning in America...)
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To: rxsid

http://www.mombasahospital.com/history.html
“In 1962, with Mrs. Bibby’s permission, the Hospital was renamed The Katherine Bibby Hospital. By the time Kenyan became independent on 12th December 1963, any racial barriers that remained from the colonial past had been removed but in many quarters there existed the belief that the Katherine Bibby catered mainly for the Europeans. As part of the campaign to correct the misapprehension the name was changed back to The Mombasa Hospital.”
Lots of names linked to that period in time-if Lavender or Miller are historically correct,searches of these other peoples names may yield info.


730 posted on 08/02/2009 5:30:08 AM PDT by wiggen
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To: Neville72

Actually that seems to be more real to me. It was probally written by a Kenyan hospital worker who was poor at writing English being that it was a srecond language.

But where is that coming from? I do not see it in he copy of the image I have.


731 posted on 08/02/2009 5:30:33 AM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: Neville72
At last, it is clear what to make of this.


732 posted on 08/02/2009 5:30:51 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: surfer
The strip removed from the document could have been done to authenticate the age of the document.

Oh, to take a sample?

733 posted on 08/02/2009 5:30:54 AM PDT by library user
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To: Diverdogz
How long before Drudge puts up a story about this BC?

Oh, he'll probably have his siren up around noon Monday. He doesn't usually do much on Sunday.

734 posted on 08/02/2009 5:30:59 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Obama - fooling fewer people every day.)
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To: PureSolace

The second photopshop enhancement looks like it’s just for the seal and type to pop out. No mystery.


735 posted on 08/02/2009 5:31:26 AM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
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To: silverleaf

bookmark BC


736 posted on 08/02/2009 5:31:36 AM PDT by silverleaf (If you can't be a good example, at least don't be a horrible lesson)
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To: Swordmaker

These are not two different versions of the same document, they are in fact the same document, with the same staple holes in exactly the same position, the same stain, the same folds, and the very same tiny tear just above the “of” in “ninth day of August” and in three other similar locations. The photos were clearly taken at different time, but except for the edges, the document does not display any significant deterioration.

I do not understand the differences in the edge conditions or the gap in the upper right, which also shows the same strange serrations. The lower photo was clearly taken at a later time. Perhaps the edge serrations and the missing piece at the top represent samples of the paper taken for authentication.

Whatever was done to the edges did not result in the loss of any significant amount of material except at the right top.

Any document authenticators out there who can shed any light on this?


737 posted on 08/02/2009 5:31:50 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: Scanian
His parent’s divorce.

Didn't Obama's mom remarry? Could it be that Obama was adopted by the new father around the time of this document? (I don't know much about Obama's past or growing up, but I seem to remember hearing about his mom definitely remarrying at some point.

738 posted on 08/02/2009 5:31:57 AM PDT by PureSolace (Trust in God)
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To: Lovely-Day-For-A-Guinness
That stain that partially obliterates "MAIDEN" (in the mother section) - you can see where it oxidized the section folded over it, and that oxidation pattern mirrors the top section of the stain.

It didn't oxidize the stain pattern completely since the lower half of the stain doesn't appear there, but that's likely due to the folded section of paper not quite touching the entire stain; the mirrored oxidation is at its strongest along the seam, which is to be expected.

If this is a fake, the forger really knew his stuff to cover his arse.

739 posted on 08/02/2009 5:32:13 AM PDT by Lovely-Day-For-A-Guinness (Eenie meanie, chili beanie, the spirits are about to speak....)
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To: woofie
"Can we just make Kenya the 51st state?"

make that a 58

740 posted on 08/02/2009 5:32:27 AM PDT by spokeshave (USA #1; Pirates -3...Voting them all out of office would be a sufficient pay cut)
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