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12,000 Years Old Unexplained Structure [Gobekli Tepe]
via UTUBE ^ | 2/10/2011 | HISTORY CHANNEL

Posted on 04/18/2011 4:25:18 PM PDT by stockpirate

This site is 12,000 years old, the most advanced strutures ever found.

Several video's on the link


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anatolia; blacksea; blackseaflood; catalhoyuk; catalhuyuk; ggg; gobeklitepe; godsgravesglyphs; prehistory; sanliurfa; sunkenciv; turkey
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To: muawiyah

Atually, a Berliner is a large jelly donut, which is why the Germans laughed at JFK


81 posted on 04/19/2011 9:12:02 AM PDT by stockpirate (Sarah, the time is NOW!. .....................Ech bin ein Paliner)
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82 posted on 04/19/2011 9:45:29 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: muawiyah
The AGW crowd imagine that most modern humans would stand in one place and allow the ocean to rise up around them.

Maybe they are projecting...but then, they never gave us 'knuckledraggers' credit for any common sense.

83 posted on 04/19/2011 9:57:59 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters

Fascinating. Video at link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo0ZkgqM1TE&feature=share


84 posted on 04/19/2011 10:42:30 AM PDT by lonevoice (Where the Welfare State is on the march, the Police State is not far behind)
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To: CynicalBear

“So how long ago was the earth formed and where do you get that information?”

From the young earth creationists who claim that the earth is around 6000 years old.


85 posted on 04/19/2011 11:15:55 AM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz
>>From the young earth creationists who claim that the earth is around 6000 years old.<<

Ok, so there were dinosaurs on the ark then? And the Mastodons that they found frozen so quickly that they still had green vegetation in their mouth, when did that happen in the last 6000 years? How about the vast deposits of coal far beneath the surface, that couldn’t have possibly happened during the flood. The 6000 age of the earth is preposterous. While I will agree that carbon dating can be off, it can’t be nearly as far off as the young earthers would need to have it. The earth is much older then 6000 years.

The young earthers would have us believe that an eternal God did nothing prior to 6000 years ago. I can assure you that this earth is much older then that and God created and re-created this world perhaps many times. At least one time that we know of from scripture.

86 posted on 04/19/2011 1:14:15 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: stockpirate; wolfcreek; All

Very interesting. Thanks for the links; thread.


87 posted on 04/19/2011 1:52:38 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: UCANSEE2
Freeze some of that water and stack it on the lumps. The water level goes down, and will rise when the ice melts.

Essentially, that is what happened with the far northern and southern latitude landmasses covered with ice sheets two miles or more thick.

While there was some compression of the continental crust into the mantle by the sheer weight of the ice on the continents, (google: Isostacy and Isostatic rebound), the overall effect was a drop in sea level because that part of the hydrologic cycle had battlenecked. When the ice sheets melted off, the continents rebounded somewhat, rising relative to their former position floating on the mantle (still occurring according to some), but the ocean basin water levels rose faster, inundating the coastal areas which had been habitable while the ice sheets existed.

88 posted on 04/19/2011 2:16:14 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: CynicalBear

All you need to is watch an episode of the Flintstone’s and get back to me and try to tell me that man and dinosaur did not live together.


89 posted on 04/19/2011 2:37:51 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: CynicalBear

Or just read the words to the song and pay close attention to what they are saying.

You see, They are a page right out of history.

And, while it was tough for Fred and Barney to be homosexual way back in the stone age, they still wanted to have a “Gay Old Time.”

Flintstones... Meet the Flintstones,
They’re a modern stoneage family.
From the town of Bedrock,
They’re a page right out of history.
Let’s ride with the family down the street.
Through the courtesy of Fred’s two feet.
When you’re with the Flintstones,
have a yabba dabba doo time,
a dabba doo time,
we’ll have a gay old time


90 posted on 04/19/2011 2:47:29 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz

You shouldn’t get into serious discussion if your only source of information is a cartoon. You made the statement that the world was only 6000 years old but can’t answer the questions I posed?


91 posted on 04/19/2011 2:50:46 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: little jeremiah

15,000 years ago the sea level was 300-400 feet lower than today. The area of the Persian Gulf would have been dry land.


92 posted on 04/19/2011 3:40:04 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: CynicalBear

Two sources, the YEC’s and the Flintstones.


93 posted on 04/19/2011 3:51:51 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: SatinDoll

Must have been, thank you. There are too many very ancient structures and even bridges or roads under the sea. In many different locations. Hidden history.


94 posted on 04/19/2011 4:22:41 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Smokin' Joe

When water freezes it expands, when the ice caps melt the water level goes down, not up.

Fill a glass with ice then water, cover with platic wrap and wait.....as the water melts the levels decreases.


95 posted on 04/19/2011 8:02:29 PM PDT by stockpirate (Sarah, the time is NOW!. .....................Ech bin ein Paliner)
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To: stockpirate

BUMP


96 posted on 04/19/2011 8:10:53 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: stockpirate
When water freezes it expands, when the ice caps melt the water level goes down, not up.

If the ice is floating in the water, it displaces a volume of water equal to its weight. Because ice weighs less, it displaces less water volume than there is ice volume and the ice is exposed at the top. When it melts, the water level will remain the same. (Try it.)

That was not the situation during the Ice Age where precipitation in the form of snow recrystalized on the continents into ice sheets literally miles thick. From the Northern landmasses of Canada into the Dakotas (where I sit was once covered with ice well over a mile thick) and farther south than the Great Lakes, North America was covered with ice.

That did not displace any ocean water, but instead was removed from the oceans by evaporation and subsequent precipitation on land, where it formed those glacial ice sheets that planed the Canadian shield and carved the Great Lakes.

Greenland's continental glaciers and those overlying landmass in Antarctica are fine present day examples.

Did the pack ice extend further south? Almost assuredly, but still there was a net volumetric shift of water from ocean basins to land in quantities which simply could not have been sustained if the water was liquid (because it would have simply run off back into the oceans like it generally does today).

That volume of water tied up in ice on the continents is the amount of water removed from the ocean basins by being piled up, frozen, on the continents, and sea level dropped as a result.

The reason global warming alarmists are generally wrong about catastrophic sea level changes today with a small increase in temperature is that there is relatively little water tied up in continental ice sheets and glaciers (with the exception of Antarctica and Greenland), most is liquid or in a relatively small volume of alpine glaciers.

97 posted on 04/19/2011 9:40:53 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: stockpirate
Just sayin'...
98 posted on 04/19/2011 9:58:37 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Smokin' Joe
Add to that a minimum of 5000 active volcanoes, and storms, overflowing rivers, etc., and you have an EVER MOVING geological surface. There are many factors which cause an apparent change of sea level.

The midwest US used to be the bottom of a sea. Did the sea level fall ? Or did the land rise?

99 posted on 04/20/2011 9:16:06 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
Add to that a minimum of 5000 active volcanoes, and storms, overflowing rivers, etc., and you have an EVER MOVING geological surface. There are many factors which cause an apparent change of sea level.

Yep. It is a dynamic system, ever changing over the long haul--which makes the enviro's attempts at static preservation all the more ridiculous.

My bet is that the land rose, considering the craton has been squeezed from the right by the expanding Atlantic plate and pushed from the left by the East Pacific Rise.

Just the weight of the last Ice Age's ice melting off let the continent rise a little (isostatic rebound), just not as much as the volume of water which melted off raised the sea level.

There has been plenty of sediment going into the middle, too, from the Rockies and the Appalachian/Alleghany mountain chains--not to mention all that bulldozed down from up north by the glaciers and redistributed by wind and water.

100 posted on 04/21/2011 12:00:28 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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