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Editorial on wolves
Central Idaho Anti-Wolf Coalition | August 3/2002 | John Nelson

Posted on 11/03/2002 8:06:41 PM PST by Delphinium

Dear Editor: This is a response to a pro wolf advocate stating that there has never been an attack by a "HEALTHY" wolf in North America, July 8,002 15 By Joy York, It has been widely discussed whether a healthy wild wolf has ever attacked a human on this continent. In fact, many say such attacks have never occurred in North America. HISTORY STATES OTHERWISE! It depends on which century you want to research wolves attacking and killing humans,1800's, 1900's or 2000's. Noted naturalist documented wolf attacks on humans. John James Audubon, of whom the Audubon society is named, reported an attack involving two black men traveling through part of Kentucky near the Ohio border in the winter. The two men were carrying axes when they were viciously attacked by a pack of wolves, they managed to kill three wolves. One man was severely wounded and one man was killed, and devoured by the remainder of the wolves, only bones remained the next day. This occurred about 1830 ( Audubon,J.J.. and Bachman,J,: The Quadrupeds of North America.3 volumes. New York, 1851-1854) In northwestern Colorado, an 18-year-old girl was viciously attacked while bringing in milk cows, she screamed and her brother, who was nearby armed with a gun responded to the scene and killed the Wolf. The wolf was a healthy young animal barely full-grown.This occurred in the summer about 1881 ( Grinnell,G.B; The Trail and Campfire- Wolves and Wolf Nature, New York, 1897) In1942,Michael Dusiak, section foreman for the Canadian Pacific Railway, was attacked by a wolf, the wolf was killed by the trains engineer, and a firemen with picks and other tools. It should be noted that this wolf was scanned and inspected by an Investigator Chrichton, a Conservation Officer. His assessment was the animal was young healthy and in good condition. ( " A Record of Timber Wolf Attacking Man"Journal Of Mammology, Vol. 28, No. 3, August 1947) This is some examples from British Columbia. Wolves overran Vancouver Island in the 1980's. Attacks became so common that articles were published in Canadian magazines documenting such attacks. Aug., 1987 a 16-year-old girl was bitten by a wolf in Algonquin Provincial Park in Ontario, she was bitten on the arm, clothing prevented severe lacerations. The wolf was shot by the Natural Resources personnel and tested negative for rabies. Well known wolf biologists Dr. David Mech took issue with this attack stating it could not really be considered an authentic attack since the girl wasn't severely injured. (Interview with Ron Tozer, Park Naturalist for Algonquin Provincial Park, July 25, 1988) It was exactly nine years when such an attack would take place. Algonquin Provincial Park. In August, 1996 eleven-year-old Zack Delventhal was viciously attacked, the boys face had been ripped open, his nose was crushed, parts of his mouth and right cheek were torn. Blood gushed from puncture wounds below his eyes, and the lower part of his right ear was missing and dangling. The wolf was killed by Park authorities and found to be a young healthy adult male wolf ( Cook, Kathy; " Night of the Wolf " Readers Digest, July 1997 p. pp. 114-119) Sports Afield Magazine, December 2000 January 2001 issue, in Alaska a picture of six-year-old John Stenglein, lying in a hospital bed viciously attacked by a healthy male wolf, the wolf it was killed by loggers near his camp. Also this same article reports a 22-year-old man in his sleeping bag on a beach near Vancouver BC he was also viciously attacked by a healthy male wolf, the wolf was killed by Canadian officials. This is only a few examples there are numerous documented wolf attacks in North America. The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, is fully aware of more documented attacks in North America by wolves, yet they refuse to write a rebuttal to this fictitious statements of wolves not attacking humans, instead it is posted on their children's web-site http://mexicanwolf.fws.gov/Kids/kidfact.htm that wolves don't attack humans! The ( USF&WS) should be held accountable for any attack on humans where they were reintroduced or introduced sub-species (Canadian Gray Wolves). In Northern India since 1996 there has been more than 80 people killed and eaten by wolves, in1998 30 (thirty) of those killed were children between ages of one (1) and twelve (12.) See National Geographic, Man Eaters of India) And the list goes on. It is apparent that some people are only regurgitation what ( USF&WS) and pro wolf advocates are printing in the papers and surely you do not know the true facts. Do the research before opening mouth and inserting foot, Wolves are known as man eaters throughout the world. "Yet in a culture dominated by lawyers that thrive on conflict, with law administered by want to be biologists, with notoriously poor interpersonal skills, and in the end, it's the very animals we most wanted to keep, that are being decimated". John Nelson


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Canada; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; US: Idaho; US: Montana; US: Nebraska; US: Nevada; US: Oregon; US: Utah; US: Washington; US: Wyoming
KEYWORDS: archaeology; clovis; endangeredspecies; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history; idaho; preclovis; precolumbian; wolves
This is more information related to an article I posted a few days ago. Wolves have become a serious problem in Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming. I was pretty surprised by the people who responded to the first article I posted who were very uninformed. This is a link to the first, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/779640/posts Sorry if I don't do this correctly, I am learning, and my teenager is not here to help.
1 posted on 11/03/2002 8:06:41 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: Delphinium
WIN ONE FOR THE GIPPER

Vote on Tuesday.

Do the right thing.


2 posted on 11/03/2002 8:07:56 PM PST by ChadGore
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To: Delphinium
Let's all campaign to get wolves reintroduced to their native habitat in the Hamptons and Central Park.
3 posted on 11/03/2002 8:12:13 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: Delphinium
The Wolves ate my formatting.
4 posted on 11/03/2002 8:16:45 PM PST by Mike Darancette
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To: Mike Darancette
There must be some html formatting in the article, maybe the web sites. You need to insert < p > to mark the paragraphs. Without a link to your source, no way anyone else can do this.
5 posted on 11/03/2002 8:19:00 PM PST by Cicero
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To: Tribune7
I am starting that campaign Wednesday morning after I am done with the campaign against our local democrats who are worse than the four footed beasts. This year they have been extremely vicious.
6 posted on 11/03/2002 8:21:29 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: Delphinium
Right! Our Save the Long Island Wolf Campaign starts Wednesday! :-)

We can reintroduce them to Martha's Vineyard and Boston Commons too while we are thinking about it.

7 posted on 11/03/2002 8:28:29 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: Delphinium
Dear Editor: This is a response to a pro wolf advocate stating that there has never been an attack by a "HEALTHY" wolf in North America, July 8,002 15 By Joy York, It has been widely discussed whether a healthy wild wolf has ever attacked a human on this continent. In fact, many say such attacks have never occurred in North America. HISTORY STATES OTHERWISE! It depends on which century you want to research wolves attacking and killing humans,1800's, 1900's or 2000's. Noted naturalist documented wolf attacks on humans.

John James Audubon, of whom the Audubon society is named, reported an attack involving two black men traveling through part of Kentucky near the Ohio border in the winter. The two men were carrying axes when they were viciously attacked by a pack of wolves, they managed to kill three wolves. One man was severely wounded and one man was killed, and devoured by the remainder of the wolves, only bones remained the next day. This occurred about 1830 ( Audubon,J.J.. and Bachman,J,: The Quadrupeds of North America.3 volumes. New York, 1851-1854)

In northwestern Colorado, an 18-year-old girl was viciously attacked while bringing in milk cows, she screamed and her brother, who was nearby armed with a gun responded to the scene and killed the Wolf. The wolf was a healthy young animal barely full-grown.This occurred in the summer about 1881 ( Grinnell,G.B; The Trail and Campfire- Wolves and Wolf Nature, New York, 1897)

In1942,Michael Dusiak, section foreman for the Canadian Pacific Railway, was attacked by a wolf, the wolf was killed by the trains engineer, and a firemen with picks and other tools. It should be noted that this wolf was scanned and inspected by an Investigator Chrichton, a Conservation Officer. His assessment was the animal was young healthy and in good condition. ( " A Record of Timber Wolf Attacking Man"Journal Of Mammology, Vol. 28, No. 3, August 1947) This is some examples from British Columbia.

Wolves overran Vancouver Island in the 1980's. Attacks became so common that articles were published in Canadian magazines documenting such attacks.

Aug., 1987 a 16-year-old girl was bitten by a wolf in Algonquin Provincial Park in Ontario, she was bitten on the arm, clothing prevented severe lacerations. The wolf was shot by the Natural Resources personnel and tested negative for rabies.

Well known wolf biologists Dr. David Mech took issue with this attack stating it could not really be considered an authentic attack since the girl wasn't severely injured. (Interview with Ron Tozer, Park Naturalist for Algonquin Provincial Park, July 25, 1988)

It was exactly nine years when such an attack would take place.

Algonquin Provincial Park. In August, 1996 eleven-year-old Zack Delventhal was viciously attacked, the boys face had been ripped open, his nose was crushed, parts of his mouth and right cheek were torn. Blood gushed from puncture wounds below his eyes, and the lower part of his right ear was missing and dangling. The wolf was killed by Park authorities and found to be a young healthy adult male wolf ( Cook, Kathy; " Night of the Wolf " Readers Digest, July 1997 p. pp. 114-119) Sports Afield Magazine, December 2000 January 2001 issue, in Alaska a picture of six-year-old John Stenglein, lying in a hospital bed viciously attacked by a healthy male wolf, the wolf it was killed by loggers near his camp.

Also this same article reports a 22-year-old man in his sleeping bag on a beach near Vancouver BC he was also viciously attacked by a healthy male wolf, the wolf was killed by Canadian officials.

This is only a few examples there are numerous documented wolf attacks in North America.

The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, is fully aware of more documented attacks in North America by wolves, yet they refuse to write a rebuttal to this fictitious statements of wolves not attacking humans, instead it is posted on their children's web-site http://mexicanwolf.fws.gov/Kids/kidfact.htm that wolves don't attack humans!

The ( USF&WS) should be held accountable for any attack on humans where they were reintroduced or introduced sub-species (Canadian Gray Wolves).

In Northern India since 1996 there has been more than 80 people killed and eaten by wolves, in1998 30 (thirty) of those killed were children between ages of one (1) and twelve (12.) See National Geographic, Man Eaters of India)

And the list goes on. It is apparent that some people are only regurgitating what ( USF&WS) and pro wolf advocates are printing in the papers and surely you do not know the true facts. Do the research before opening mouth and inserting foot.

Wolves are known as man eaters throughout the world.

"Yet in a culture dominated by lawyers that thrive on conflict, with law administered by want to be biologists, with notoriously poor interpersonal skills, and in the end, it's the very animals we most wanted to keep, that are being decimated".

John Nelson

8 posted on 11/03/2002 8:29:27 PM PST by joesnuffy
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To: joesnuffy
Thankyou, I guess I really did mess up. Thanks for not saying rude things about how I posted it.
9 posted on 11/03/2002 8:31:34 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: Delphinium
When predators lose their acquired fear of man, they view mankind as prey.

Works with terrorists as well as wolves.
10 posted on 11/03/2002 8:33:29 PM PST by DakotaGator
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To: DakotaGator
I wondered what made these democrats more vicious this year?
11 posted on 11/03/2002 8:34:46 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: Delphinium
I wonder if anyone bothered to consult Native Americans about this. They might tell a different story.

I've only run across one wolf in the wild. A large, but shaggy, mangy looking critter. It stayed about 30 or 40 feet away and just sort of stared at me. I had the distinct feeling that it was considering what I might taste like.

12 posted on 11/03/2002 8:35:36 PM PST by templar
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To: Delphinium
When vicious predators (two & four legged) are treated like prized pets...and are not prosecuted for their crimes they become emboldened...

When they realize that man is too weak and unwilling to defend himself let alone go on the offensive they instinctively push their limits..they wish to conquer and to expand their domain..

In animals its instinctive..protecting them ..leads to disaster...the DNR values its domain more than the human domain..and seeks to protect it...at all costs...human costs...

Ive spotted wolves years ago in northern Wi. and when I reported it to the DNR they denied the existance of wolves...later we found they had planted a few good sized packs...now N Wi. and the UP have more than enough to declare them fair game again...but fail to...

Wolves, like the fishers they also planted, are now pests..and will become increasingly dangerous..as will the mountain lions they also planted..and protect.. Those state college wildlife major boys of course will deny this to the nth degree...They call themselves scientists yet they deny, obsfucate, envegle, and hide data... (thanks skully)

Our ancestors struggled long and hard against such predators and to rid the land of them...they were dangerous to animals and crops and their children.

To protect these predators ..lie to the public about their numbers and locations...and then cover up the attack data is unconscienable..but then most are Clinton holdovers so why would one expect to find an conscience among them.............imo of course
13 posted on 11/03/2002 8:43:39 PM PST by joesnuffy
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To: templar
Which Native Americans? the TV ones or the real ones?
14 posted on 11/03/2002 8:44:56 PM PST by joesnuffy
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To: joesnuffy
Which Native Americans? the TV ones or the real ones?

What? The ones on TV aren't real???!!!

15 posted on 11/03/2002 8:50:57 PM PST by templar
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To: joesnuffy
Some how its easy to think of both the 2 legged, and 4 legged kind as the same kind after such a campaign as I have been involved in. I am trying to move on.
Yes there is cover up by the feds. This is from another email I received tonight.

"May 7, 2002

LANDER, WY – Wyoming’s US Senate Candidate, Crosby Allen, said the recent discovery of the suppression of evidence by the Feds related to the high mortality of elk calves is an outrage. “There should be an immediate Senate investigation in this matter,” Allen said.

The Montana Fish, Wildlife, and Parks personnel compiled data from a recent study that showed the elk calving ratios in high wolf concentration areas to be only 0 to 10 calves per 100 cow elk. “This information should have been released to the public. The people have a right to know about the devastation the wolves are bringing upon our wildlife populations. For the Feds to cover this up and hide the data from the public is an atrocity. It’s this very type of action on behalf of the Feds that must come to an end and the control of our natural resources must be put back in the hands of the local people who are looking out for everybody’s interests,” finished Allen."



16 posted on 11/03/2002 8:51:19 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: templar
I live among many of the real Indian Native Americans who I am sure would be very disturbed about what is happening if they only knew. Unfortunately most are too addicted, etc..to find out. All the $$$ in grant money their government gets from our US govenment. (our money) doesn't go to help them. I believe that even their tribal government is being used as a pawn in this "rural cleansing", or people control thing they are doing.
17 posted on 11/03/2002 8:57:33 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: Delphinium
Yet in a culture dominated by lawyers that thrive on conflict,

Um, I thinks the cruel and known attrocity of lawyers.. er, I mean, wolves is highly overrated. They're so cute and cuddly. And they sound really neat as they howled when I was camping at Yellowstone back in '95...

Pookie & Me

18 posted on 11/03/2002 9:12:20 PM PST by Pookie Me
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To: CapandBall
Bump and Ping
19 posted on 11/03/2002 9:18:04 PM PST by m1911
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To: Delphinium
Wolves are pack animals and are highly intelligent. The pack "learns" and is collectively smarter than any individual wolf. There are typically several generations of wolves in a pack, and packs will interact with each other.

When they are not afraid of man they will treat people as prey. The old russian stories of siberian wolf packs chasing sleighs is no joke. They did.

On the other hand they learn fast. Shoot a few wolves and the packs learn to avoid man. The the older wolves teach the younger wolves. But they are smart - they avoid people with guns, not necessarily people without guns. They have very, very good noses - they can smell the gun oil and even the metal.

As long as we have people shooting wolves occasionally they will remain cautious and the number of wolf attacks on people will be low. But if we act like we are in a Bambi movie, eventually we will have pack attacks on hikers or campers.

20 posted on 11/03/2002 9:37:17 PM PST by dark_lord
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To: dark_lord
We have a bunch of wolf-worshipers here in Washington state. They have "howl-ins" whereby they go out into the wilderness and howl, hoping to get a response from a wild wolf.
21 posted on 11/03/2002 10:09:20 PM PST by holyscroller
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To: Delphinium
I wondered what made these democrats more vicious this year?

They're cornered. If they don't fight to the death by cheating, they lose.

22 posted on 11/04/2002 2:16:48 AM PST by Carry_Okie
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To: holyscroller
They have "howl-ins" whereby they go out into the wilderness and howl, hoping to get a response from a wild wolf.

Talk about useful idiots! May they have an intimate encounter with a LARGE pack very soon.

The funny part is that wolves haven't been in North America that long. One might even call them an introduced species. Evidence from mud strata exposed as land during the last ice age suggests that the forage was insufficient to support bison herds in that area. Therefore the herds were probably driven across the land bridge by Eurasian Clovis man. The wolves probably followed the herds as they clearly did when Europeans arrived in large numbers.

23 posted on 11/04/2002 2:31:44 AM PST by Carry_Okie
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To: holyscroller
I can't resist a little levity. Here's a piece I wrote in early 2000.
PETA & the Wolf

©2000 by Mark Edward Vande Pol
Republished by permission

People have an odd sort of affinity for the wolf born out of a sense of human frailty, over that thinnest of veneers, restraining the animal within us. It is that slightness of difference between the fiercely wild and the faithful domestic that is so reflective of our own, perilous spiritual journey between violent hedonism and peaceful civility. The wolf is an archetype of the internal turmoil of life, vicariously lived in spontaneous freedom.

As you are probably aware, the US Fish and Wildlife Service is engaged in a program to reintroduce the Mexican Gray Wolf throughout the Southwest. As you might suspect, it has been no surprise to anyone that this has been a controversial exercise. Wolves can do a lot of damage, and it can be pretty gruesome, sometimes even dangerous. They eat a lot, and that to do that, they kill things. Wolves enjoy killing things, especially when they run away.

Ranchers, farmers, and townspeople had this programme shoved down their throats along with all sorts of civic promises that have yet to materialize. They were promised full compensation for lost livestock, and were met with a pittance after a series of ridiculous bureaucratic loops. They were promised that the wolves were shy and would avoid human settlements, which hasn’t proven true either. They were told the wolves would remain within a limited range as long as there was adequate food, and they have strayed for many miles instead. They were told that the wolf would improve the herds of elk, and instead they are decimated. The government has promised these things without accountability, and it is time that the accountability should be properly affixed. The technology already exists.

The citizens of the Southwest should demand that the government develop shock collars triggered by the Global Positioning System (GPS) receivers to keep the wolves on their range. GPS is already used for tracking their movements. If the wolves wander off government land, they would be nailed by the collars until they turn back! The US Forest Service and Fish and Wildlife Service employees that love these wolves so much can then spend their time running after the wolves changing batteries on shock collars or else face a lawsuit for gross negligence when a child is eventually attacked and killed in a schoolyard. Only when they think they have solved the problem, will they discover…

The Law of Unintended Consequences .

Let’s leap forward in time with a flight of fancy, and see how it all worked out.

After a number of years of repeated battery changes, the wolves of the Southwest had figured out that they sort of liked the effects of being shot in the haunches with darts full of Phenobarbital. They started hanging out nearer and nearer human settlements, further from their game and risking increasing numbers of shocks; in order to be nailed in the rump by a dart gun, to be followed by a warm and numbing stupor.

PETA sued USFWS and demanded sensitivity training for all USFWS employees and a research programme to end the use of drugs. They demanded rehabilitation and drug treatment programs for the wolves. To reduce the incidence of human interaction, the reintroduction programme area would have to be expanded to include all of Texas and connect through Colorado to the realm of the Northern Gray. The labor union for the Immigration and Naturalization Service sued the USFWS because the wolves were hindering illegal immigration, displacing jobs, and not paying dues.

Because of the expanded scope of the programme required to treat addicted wolves (and fourteen years of general recession), the USFWS was still complaining to Congress of a lack of university trained certified wolf-psychologists. The level of funding to retrain the former INS agents as canine drug-counselors was insufficient to run the programme. The drug manufacturers worried about the associated liability and raised prices on tranquilizer darts dramatically. There was no domestic supplier. Without a guarantee of indemnification, and tired of late payments on the now insurmountable trade deficit, Sandoz and Novartis, the Swiss suppliers of tranquilizer darts, refused to deliver their usual shipments without cash payments from the American government, up front.

When deprived of their regular fix, the wolves became strung-out and violent. Some of them suffered seizures and convulsions from barbiturate withdrawal. In a fit of such rage, one alpha male, instead of issuing a normal correction and maintaining the usual pack-discipline, attacked an innocent bitch and instead got hooked into the collar of its dying victim. This noble animal subsequently died of starvation nearly seventy miles away from the original incident after over a month of unbelievable cruelty, unable or unwilling to feed off the carcass of its fallen mate. The National Geographic cover page brought home the graphic evidence: the futility of humans arrogantly presuming to manage the wild.

Several months later, a PETA consultant was brought in to solve the problem. Together with a new infusion of FWS employees and former INS agents (now canine drug counselors), the PETA principal convened an evening séance around the campfire. While the swirl of various sorts of smoke infiltrated their Gnostrils, and as the sound of drums throbbed in their chests, the PETA infiltrators on the FWS were suddenly infused with an inspirational, consensus vision. They Gestalted that their spiritual kinship with the wolf, under the watchful eye of Gaia would allow them to approach the wolves to change the batteries without the aid of tranquilizer darts! It was to be a spiritual test of personal self-control, to approach the wolves without fear, lest the scent of anthropocentric terror arouse the prey drive of their brothers. The humans howled with the call of communion and donned their lambskin blankets as a token of their peaceful community with their spiritual brothers. (The hides had been willingly surrendered by the local ranchers, as a penalty for having introduced non-native sheep. Curiously, they were only too happy to help. It was nice to see them so cooperative and cheerful.)

Upon their approach, the wolves startled from their sudden slumber. Amid the confusing aroma of sheeple and suffering the lack of their usual offering of tranquilizer darts, they interpreted this event as both an impending fix and an offering of dinner. They responded entirely logically toward their PETA/USFWS benefactors. It was a hideous sight, the fury of the wolves and the cries of human death echoed in the silence of night in the desert, until suddenly, all hell broke loose with the sound of shooting.

Among the consensed was a young FWS ranger, a rather pluckish girl who had undergone a sudden attack of mechanistic thinking before breaking camp. She had spiritually fallen to question her ability to approach the canids fearlessly while smelling like lunch. After a liberal dosing of musk, she had donned her Kevlar flack jacket (usually reserved for negotiations with willing sellers) and slipped her standard issue 9mm Glock under her garment along with an extra clip in her boot. Upon the attack, she closed her eyes into her tears, and started to fire.

Although the slaughter she witnessed wasn't fatal to her, the destruction of the wolves, the loss of her comrades, and her shameful fear for such spiritual weakness, not to sacrifice herself to the bosom of Gaia, drove her to suicide. She was a single mother with two children. National mourning ensued for the wolves amid celebration at her spiritual contrition and self-sacrifice for her many crimes among which was her darkest secret, now made public. She was a breeder. Pregnant with two kids - how unthinkable! She deserved to die.

Meanwhile the rest of the USFWS employees suddenly unionized with the INS agents and demanded safer working conditions and better batteries for shock collars. The now ravening and overpopulated wolves had attacked a Hollywood set, killing three little pigs during the on-location filming of the sequel to that Oscar winning eco-documentary, "BABE in the Woods". In a sympathy action the Grips walked off the set and demanded rabies shots. The Disney Company filed a complaint through the People’s Assembly to the UN Security Council.

Meanwhile, the former property owners in the Alamagordo internment camp who had been serving time for hate speech delivered to a FWS Battery Replacement Technologist, made bail when the recovered collar was found on the now, long dead canis. Their attorney, Alan Derschowitz discovered the key to breaking the government's case. He was able to prove that the battery terminals were indeed backwards. Thus the term 'backwards idiot', instead of a hurtful epithet toward a selfless global citizen, was intended to be a helpful suggestion regarding a poor career choice. PETA still demanded a retrial with the Death Penalty, complaining that the former property owners had gotten off on a technicality. The court conceded, giving the hapless landowners instead their choice of community service parole: security duty in Zimbabwe, or census-taking in the South Bronx.

Facing certain death upon their “release”, and prior to the beginning of the sentencing phase of the new trial, INS-FWS union activists staged a breakout of the landowners. Together they high-tailed it en masse, for the nearby spas in Taos, NM to take hostages.

With the situation in New Mexico getting out of hand, the Michael Eisner Foundation had insisted that the UN hold a special collaborative summit at Taos. The spas had been recently commandeered as an attractive nuisance after the facility had been quietly bought up by a multimillionaire gay marriage counselor years before. The good doctor had diversified operations into the Universal Center for Political Consensus (UCPC). The stakeholders at the meeting were from the Department of Stake, the USFWS, the INS, the facilitators were to be former President Clinton, and a an anonymous party, a broad.

The harmonization of the convention was shattered by the sudden attack from the landowners and turned onto an ugly international incident when the, by then, starving wolves joined the fray. The Russian Ambassador met his Maker in a particularly cruel fashion when he tried to fend off a 70 kilo alpha male with a bust of Alan Gisburg. According to the coroner’s report, Mr. Clinton died of natural causes. Madeline Albright speaking from Prague, issued a statement to the effect that it was just a case of a bellicose Ambassador taunting a wild animal with the closing comment, "The wolves were there first." She demanded the Russians apologize by sending a supply of bears with which to augment the diversity of indigenous stocks and to control the marauding wolves. Meanwhile, a column of Chinese led Mexican regulars headed toward Taos.

Upon receipt of the final report, the USFWS began collaborating with Lockheed under contract to produce a tranquilizer dart that holds enough Vodka to stun bears, but the program stalled in disputes over cost overruns and a lack of raw material for field trials.

When a Chinese auditor from the IMF found the vodka discrepancy on the books, President Gore offered him a free trip to Taos to investigate. The bean counter is now at Memorial Sloan Kettering undergoing painful rabies treatments due to an encounter with a renegade band of infected USFWS employees, apparently hanging out at the now deserted spa, convinced that they were themselves brethren of the Wolf.

China declares war.


24 posted on 11/04/2002 2:50:35 AM PST by Carry_Okie
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To: Tribune7
We can reintroduce them to Martha's Vineyard and Boston Commons too while we are thinking about it.

Don't forget Ithaca, Boulder and Berkeley! And toss in some hungry mountain lions as well for the latter two.

25 posted on 11/04/2002 3:00:24 AM PST by Stultis
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To: Delphinium
it is so incredible that wolves, mountain lions and even grizzly bears have been released into the wild with full knowledge that these animals will kill people. it is very sick.
26 posted on 11/04/2002 3:42:07 AM PST by Red Jones
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To: holyscroller
Two conservation groups seek to restore gray wolf to Washington


The Associated Press

WASHINGTON--Two conservation groups are calling on the federal government to restore gray wolves to Washington state, saying it's time to "hear the call of the wild again" in Western Washington forests.

Defenders of Wildlife and the Northwest Ecosystem Alliance said Wednesday they have sent a petition to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, requesting that the agency restore and protect gray wolves under the Endangered Species Act.

"Gray wolves have an important role to play in the ecological health and character of the Pacific Northwest, and the federal government should start getting serious about restoring the species here," said Rodger Schlickeisen, president of Defenders of Wildlife. "It's time to hear the call of the wild again in these beautiful forests."

The petition urges the service to establish a category known as a distinct population segment for gray wolves in Washington state.

"The wolf and the Pacific Northwest co-evolved. It is as much a thread in the fabric of our ecosystems as the salmon and the grizzly. We must seek to recover wolves wherever suitable habitat exists for the sake of the species and these ecosystems," said Joe Scott, conservation director of the Northwest Ecosystem Alliance.

Joan Jewett, a spokeswoman for the Fish and Wildlife Service in Portland, Ore., said Wednesday she had not seen the petition, but that the agency would review it upon receipt.

"Any sort of petition like this requires a formal review process, and that takes some time," she said.

The gray wolf is listed as endangered in all Lower 48 states except Minnesota, where it is listed as threatened. The species has been successfully reintroduced in Montana, Idaho and Wyoming. The Mexican wolf has been reintroduced in the southwestern United States near the Mexican border.

Two years ago, Defenders of Wildlife petitioned federal officials to restore the gray wolf to the Southern Rockies, and petitioned in April 2001 for restoration in California. Those petitions are pending.

Officials at the Fish and Wildlife Service believe the gray wolf has met the necessary three-year population targets that will allow the agency to consider a petition to change its classification from endangered to threatened as soon as next year. Such an action would remove many protections now in place.

About 260 gray wolves are believed to be living in Idaho, while Wyoming has about 218 wolves and Montana 85.

27 posted on 11/04/2002 3:48:41 AM PST by alaskanfan
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To: Delphinium
I am in agreement with all that you have said here.
28 posted on 11/04/2002 8:39:38 AM PST by templar
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To: Delphinium

"Any animal that places me, my family or my livestock in a hazardous or compromising situation is a threat and should be dealt with swiftly and with appropriate use of force"

Coyotes=clever targets, major pests
Wolf pack=predators, potentially target rich environment

29 posted on 11/04/2002 8:54:29 AM PST by China Clipper
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To: alaskanfan
"The wolf and the Pacific Northwest co-evolved."

Pure BS. See Post #23.

30 posted on 11/04/2002 9:09:23 AM PST by Carry_Okie
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To: Carry_Okie
I worked under a manager in the late 80s that spent most of his office time fighting against wolf hunting in Alaska while the business went down the tubes. I was finally able to show the absentee owner what was going on and the guy was canned.

I always wondered about the gaul of that idiot, getting paid by a busness he was ruining through neglect to fight a private battle for his token cause.

31 posted on 11/04/2002 9:21:42 AM PST by alaskanfan
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To: alaskanfan
It's a religion with a false premise.
32 posted on 11/04/2002 9:32:07 AM PST by Carry_Okie
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To: Delphinium
There was a great series of articles by a woman from Canada who lived out in the woods in Field and Stream (I think)back in the 60's.

Her best was "The Wolves are the worst", a series, about how she had to fight off the attacks from local packs.

I believe her first name was Olive.

33 posted on 11/04/2002 10:02:10 AM PST by ReaganIsRight
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To: China Clipper
I agree, but can you afford the jail, and fines. What if they are wearing a tracking device? This is almost more serious of a crime then killing a human.
34 posted on 11/04/2002 1:35:15 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: Delphinium
I agree, but can you afford the jail, and fines. What if they are wearing a tracking device? This is almost more serious of a crime then killing a human.

I reiterate, my family is more important than ANY animal.... 'nuff said....

35 posted on 11/04/2002 8:21:21 PM PST by China Clipper
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