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Editorial on wolves
Central Idaho Anti-Wolf Coalition | August 3/2002 | John Nelson

Posted on 11/03/2002 8:06:41 PM PST by Delphinium

Dear Editor: This is a response to a pro wolf advocate stating that there has never been an attack by a "HEALTHY" wolf in North America, July 8,002 15 By Joy York, It has been widely discussed whether a healthy wild wolf has ever attacked a human on this continent. In fact, many say such attacks have never occurred in North America. HISTORY STATES OTHERWISE! It depends on which century you want to research wolves attacking and killing humans,1800's, 1900's or 2000's. Noted naturalist documented wolf attacks on humans. John James Audubon, of whom the Audubon society is named, reported an attack involving two black men traveling through part of Kentucky near the Ohio border in the winter. The two men were carrying axes when they were viciously attacked by a pack of wolves, they managed to kill three wolves. One man was severely wounded and one man was killed, and devoured by the remainder of the wolves, only bones remained the next day. This occurred about 1830 ( Audubon,J.J.. and Bachman,J,: The Quadrupeds of North America.3 volumes. New York, 1851-1854) In northwestern Colorado, an 18-year-old girl was viciously attacked while bringing in milk cows, she screamed and her brother, who was nearby armed with a gun responded to the scene and killed the Wolf. The wolf was a healthy young animal barely full-grown.This occurred in the summer about 1881 ( Grinnell,G.B; The Trail and Campfire- Wolves and Wolf Nature, New York, 1897) In1942,Michael Dusiak, section foreman for the Canadian Pacific Railway, was attacked by a wolf, the wolf was killed by the trains engineer, and a firemen with picks and other tools. It should be noted that this wolf was scanned and inspected by an Investigator Chrichton, a Conservation Officer. His assessment was the animal was young healthy and in good condition. ( " A Record of Timber Wolf Attacking Man"Journal Of Mammology, Vol. 28, No. 3, August 1947) This is some examples from British Columbia. Wolves overran Vancouver Island in the 1980's. Attacks became so common that articles were published in Canadian magazines documenting such attacks. Aug., 1987 a 16-year-old girl was bitten by a wolf in Algonquin Provincial Park in Ontario, she was bitten on the arm, clothing prevented severe lacerations. The wolf was shot by the Natural Resources personnel and tested negative for rabies. Well known wolf biologists Dr. David Mech took issue with this attack stating it could not really be considered an authentic attack since the girl wasn't severely injured. (Interview with Ron Tozer, Park Naturalist for Algonquin Provincial Park, July 25, 1988) It was exactly nine years when such an attack would take place. Algonquin Provincial Park. In August, 1996 eleven-year-old Zack Delventhal was viciously attacked, the boys face had been ripped open, his nose was crushed, parts of his mouth and right cheek were torn. Blood gushed from puncture wounds below his eyes, and the lower part of his right ear was missing and dangling. The wolf was killed by Park authorities and found to be a young healthy adult male wolf ( Cook, Kathy; " Night of the Wolf " Readers Digest, July 1997 p. pp. 114-119) Sports Afield Magazine, December 2000 January 2001 issue, in Alaska a picture of six-year-old John Stenglein, lying in a hospital bed viciously attacked by a healthy male wolf, the wolf it was killed by loggers near his camp. Also this same article reports a 22-year-old man in his sleeping bag on a beach near Vancouver BC he was also viciously attacked by a healthy male wolf, the wolf was killed by Canadian officials. This is only a few examples there are numerous documented wolf attacks in North America. The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, is fully aware of more documented attacks in North America by wolves, yet they refuse to write a rebuttal to this fictitious statements of wolves not attacking humans, instead it is posted on their children's web-site http://mexicanwolf.fws.gov/Kids/kidfact.htm that wolves don't attack humans! The ( USF&WS) should be held accountable for any attack on humans where they were reintroduced or introduced sub-species (Canadian Gray Wolves). In Northern India since 1996 there has been more than 80 people killed and eaten by wolves, in1998 30 (thirty) of those killed were children between ages of one (1) and twelve (12.) See National Geographic, Man Eaters of India) And the list goes on. It is apparent that some people are only regurgitation what ( USF&WS) and pro wolf advocates are printing in the papers and surely you do not know the true facts. Do the research before opening mouth and inserting foot, Wolves are known as man eaters throughout the world. "Yet in a culture dominated by lawyers that thrive on conflict, with law administered by want to be biologists, with notoriously poor interpersonal skills, and in the end, it's the very animals we most wanted to keep, that are being decimated". John Nelson


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This is more information related to an article I posted a few days ago. Wolves have become a serious problem in Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming. I was pretty surprised by the people who responded to the first article I posted who were very uninformed. This is a link to the first, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/779640/posts Sorry if I don't do this correctly, I am learning, and my teenager is not here to help.
1 posted on 11/03/2002 8:06:41 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: Delphinium
WIN ONE FOR THE GIPPER

Vote on Tuesday.

Do the right thing.


2 posted on 11/03/2002 8:07:56 PM PST by ChadGore
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To: Delphinium
Let's all campaign to get wolves reintroduced to their native habitat in the Hamptons and Central Park.
3 posted on 11/03/2002 8:12:13 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: Delphinium
The Wolves ate my formatting.
4 posted on 11/03/2002 8:16:45 PM PST by Mike Darancette
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To: Mike Darancette
There must be some html formatting in the article, maybe the web sites. You need to insert < p > to mark the paragraphs. Without a link to your source, no way anyone else can do this.
5 posted on 11/03/2002 8:19:00 PM PST by Cicero
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To: Tribune7
I am starting that campaign Wednesday morning after I am done with the campaign against our local democrats who are worse than the four footed beasts. This year they have been extremely vicious.
6 posted on 11/03/2002 8:21:29 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: Delphinium
Right! Our Save the Long Island Wolf Campaign starts Wednesday! :-)

We can reintroduce them to Martha's Vineyard and Boston Commons too while we are thinking about it.

7 posted on 11/03/2002 8:28:29 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: Delphinium
Dear Editor: This is a response to a pro wolf advocate stating that there has never been an attack by a "HEALTHY" wolf in North America, July 8,002 15 By Joy York, It has been widely discussed whether a healthy wild wolf has ever attacked a human on this continent. In fact, many say such attacks have never occurred in North America. HISTORY STATES OTHERWISE! It depends on which century you want to research wolves attacking and killing humans,1800's, 1900's or 2000's. Noted naturalist documented wolf attacks on humans.

John James Audubon, of whom the Audubon society is named, reported an attack involving two black men traveling through part of Kentucky near the Ohio border in the winter. The two men were carrying axes when they were viciously attacked by a pack of wolves, they managed to kill three wolves. One man was severely wounded and one man was killed, and devoured by the remainder of the wolves, only bones remained the next day. This occurred about 1830 ( Audubon,J.J.. and Bachman,J,: The Quadrupeds of North America.3 volumes. New York, 1851-1854)

In northwestern Colorado, an 18-year-old girl was viciously attacked while bringing in milk cows, she screamed and her brother, who was nearby armed with a gun responded to the scene and killed the Wolf. The wolf was a healthy young animal barely full-grown.This occurred in the summer about 1881 ( Grinnell,G.B; The Trail and Campfire- Wolves and Wolf Nature, New York, 1897)

In1942,Michael Dusiak, section foreman for the Canadian Pacific Railway, was attacked by a wolf, the wolf was killed by the trains engineer, and a firemen with picks and other tools. It should be noted that this wolf was scanned and inspected by an Investigator Chrichton, a Conservation Officer. His assessment was the animal was young healthy and in good condition. ( " A Record of Timber Wolf Attacking Man"Journal Of Mammology, Vol. 28, No. 3, August 1947) This is some examples from British Columbia.

Wolves overran Vancouver Island in the 1980's. Attacks became so common that articles were published in Canadian magazines documenting such attacks.

Aug., 1987 a 16-year-old girl was bitten by a wolf in Algonquin Provincial Park in Ontario, she was bitten on the arm, clothing prevented severe lacerations. The wolf was shot by the Natural Resources personnel and tested negative for rabies.

Well known wolf biologists Dr. David Mech took issue with this attack stating it could not really be considered an authentic attack since the girl wasn't severely injured. (Interview with Ron Tozer, Park Naturalist for Algonquin Provincial Park, July 25, 1988)

It was exactly nine years when such an attack would take place.

Algonquin Provincial Park. In August, 1996 eleven-year-old Zack Delventhal was viciously attacked, the boys face had been ripped open, his nose was crushed, parts of his mouth and right cheek were torn. Blood gushed from puncture wounds below his eyes, and the lower part of his right ear was missing and dangling. The wolf was killed by Park authorities and found to be a young healthy adult male wolf ( Cook, Kathy; " Night of the Wolf " Readers Digest, July 1997 p. pp. 114-119) Sports Afield Magazine, December 2000 January 2001 issue, in Alaska a picture of six-year-old John Stenglein, lying in a hospital bed viciously attacked by a healthy male wolf, the wolf it was killed by loggers near his camp.

Also this same article reports a 22-year-old man in his sleeping bag on a beach near Vancouver BC he was also viciously attacked by a healthy male wolf, the wolf was killed by Canadian officials.

This is only a few examples there are numerous documented wolf attacks in North America.

The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, is fully aware of more documented attacks in North America by wolves, yet they refuse to write a rebuttal to this fictitious statements of wolves not attacking humans, instead it is posted on their children's web-site http://mexicanwolf.fws.gov/Kids/kidfact.htm that wolves don't attack humans!

The ( USF&WS) should be held accountable for any attack on humans where they were reintroduced or introduced sub-species (Canadian Gray Wolves).

In Northern India since 1996 there has been more than 80 people killed and eaten by wolves, in1998 30 (thirty) of those killed were children between ages of one (1) and twelve (12.) See National Geographic, Man Eaters of India)

And the list goes on. It is apparent that some people are only regurgitating what ( USF&WS) and pro wolf advocates are printing in the papers and surely you do not know the true facts. Do the research before opening mouth and inserting foot.

Wolves are known as man eaters throughout the world.

"Yet in a culture dominated by lawyers that thrive on conflict, with law administered by want to be biologists, with notoriously poor interpersonal skills, and in the end, it's the very animals we most wanted to keep, that are being decimated".

John Nelson

8 posted on 11/03/2002 8:29:27 PM PST by joesnuffy
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To: joesnuffy
Thankyou, I guess I really did mess up. Thanks for not saying rude things about how I posted it.
9 posted on 11/03/2002 8:31:34 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: Delphinium
When predators lose their acquired fear of man, they view mankind as prey.

Works with terrorists as well as wolves.
10 posted on 11/03/2002 8:33:29 PM PST by DakotaGator
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To: DakotaGator
I wondered what made these democrats more vicious this year?
11 posted on 11/03/2002 8:34:46 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: Delphinium
I wonder if anyone bothered to consult Native Americans about this. They might tell a different story.

I've only run across one wolf in the wild. A large, but shaggy, mangy looking critter. It stayed about 30 or 40 feet away and just sort of stared at me. I had the distinct feeling that it was considering what I might taste like.

12 posted on 11/03/2002 8:35:36 PM PST by templar
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To: Delphinium
When vicious predators (two & four legged) are treated like prized pets...and are not prosecuted for their crimes they become emboldened...

When they realize that man is too weak and unwilling to defend himself let alone go on the offensive they instinctively push their limits..they wish to conquer and to expand their domain..

In animals its instinctive..protecting them ..leads to disaster...the DNR values its domain more than the human domain..and seeks to protect it...at all costs...human costs...

Ive spotted wolves years ago in northern Wi. and when I reported it to the DNR they denied the existance of wolves...later we found they had planted a few good sized packs...now N Wi. and the UP have more than enough to declare them fair game again...but fail to...

Wolves, like the fishers they also planted, are now pests..and will become increasingly dangerous..as will the mountain lions they also planted..and protect.. Those state college wildlife major boys of course will deny this to the nth degree...They call themselves scientists yet they deny, obsfucate, envegle, and hide data... (thanks skully)

Our ancestors struggled long and hard against such predators and to rid the land of them...they were dangerous to animals and crops and their children.

To protect these predators ..lie to the public about their numbers and locations...and then cover up the attack data is unconscienable..but then most are Clinton holdovers so why would one expect to find an conscience among them.............imo of course
13 posted on 11/03/2002 8:43:39 PM PST by joesnuffy
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To: templar
Which Native Americans? the TV ones or the real ones?
14 posted on 11/03/2002 8:44:56 PM PST by joesnuffy
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Which Native Americans? the TV ones or the real ones?

What? The ones on TV aren't real???!!!

15 posted on 11/03/2002 8:50:57 PM PST by templar
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To: joesnuffy
Some how its easy to think of both the 2 legged, and 4 legged kind as the same kind after such a campaign as I have been involved in. I am trying to move on.
Yes there is cover up by the feds. This is from another email I received tonight.

"May 7, 2002

LANDER, WY – Wyoming’s US Senate Candidate, Crosby Allen, said the recent discovery of the suppression of evidence by the Feds related to the high mortality of elk calves is an outrage. “There should be an immediate Senate investigation in this matter,” Allen said.

The Montana Fish, Wildlife, and Parks personnel compiled data from a recent study that showed the elk calving ratios in high wolf concentration areas to be only 0 to 10 calves per 100 cow elk. “This information should have been released to the public. The people have a right to know about the devastation the wolves are bringing upon our wildlife populations. For the Feds to cover this up and hide the data from the public is an atrocity. It’s this very type of action on behalf of the Feds that must come to an end and the control of our natural resources must be put back in the hands of the local people who are looking out for everybody’s interests,” finished Allen."



16 posted on 11/03/2002 8:51:19 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: templar
I live among many of the real Indian Native Americans who I am sure would be very disturbed about what is happening if they only knew. Unfortunately most are too addicted, etc..to find out. All the $$$ in grant money their government gets from our US govenment. (our money) doesn't go to help them. I believe that even their tribal government is being used as a pawn in this "rural cleansing", or people control thing they are doing.
17 posted on 11/03/2002 8:57:33 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: Delphinium
Yet in a culture dominated by lawyers that thrive on conflict,

Um, I thinks the cruel and known attrocity of lawyers.. er, I mean, wolves is highly overrated. They're so cute and cuddly. And they sound really neat as they howled when I was camping at Yellowstone back in '95...

Pookie & Me

18 posted on 11/03/2002 9:12:20 PM PST by Pookie Me
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To: CapandBall
Bump and Ping
19 posted on 11/03/2002 9:18:04 PM PST by m1911
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To: Delphinium
Wolves are pack animals and are highly intelligent. The pack "learns" and is collectively smarter than any individual wolf. There are typically several generations of wolves in a pack, and packs will interact with each other.

When they are not afraid of man they will treat people as prey. The old russian stories of siberian wolf packs chasing sleighs is no joke. They did.

On the other hand they learn fast. Shoot a few wolves and the packs learn to avoid man. The the older wolves teach the younger wolves. But they are smart - they avoid people with guns, not necessarily people without guns. They have very, very good noses - they can smell the gun oil and even the metal.

As long as we have people shooting wolves occasionally they will remain cautious and the number of wolf attacks on people will be low. But if we act like we are in a Bambi movie, eventually we will have pack attacks on hikers or campers.

20 posted on 11/03/2002 9:37:17 PM PST by dark_lord
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