Posted on 05/01/2018 12:23:08 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
On a rugged bluff overlooking the Ohio River, known locally as "Devil's Backbone," centuries of overgrowth obscures a secret of history... In 1799, early settlers found six skeletons clad in breastplates bearing a Welsh coat of arms. Indian legends told of "yellow-haired giants" who settled in Kentucky, southern Indiana, southern Ohio and Tennessee -- a region they called "the Dark and Forbidden Land." Archeologists debunk the legend. They say that evidence indicates that the natives of the region once conducted a vigorous trading network nearby and buried their dead on the bluff... Upstream about 14 miles from Louisville, Ky., the craggy hill rises abruptly from the Indiana bank. Fourteen Mile Creek runs behind the hill, carving out a narrow strip of land between the creek and the river... The earliest survey of the area, done in 1873 by state geologist E. T. Cox and his assistant, William Borden, found a prehistoric fortification on the hilltop. A man-made limestone wall, 150 feet long and 75 feet high in some places, stood along the front and one side of the hill where the cliffs could be scaled... The wall no longer exists, the area's early settlers having taken the huge, unmortared stones to build foundations, bridges and fences that can still be seen throughout the rolling countryside. Local legend says the walls were built by followers of Prince Madoc of Wales, who led an expedition in the late 12th Century and was never seen again. Tradition says they landed in America and settled briefly in Tennessee, then moved to Kentucky and southern Indiana. "In my opinion, you couldn't find a better legend than this," said Dana Olson of Jeffersonville, an amateur historian and author of "Prince Madoc: Founder of Clark County, Indiana."
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Is the state of the art for genetics such that they can take genes from local tribes and see if there is any european coding there?
Seems to me I’ve read something like that in discussons of solutrians/clovis points for canadian indians.
the real trouble is finding pure bred local indians.
if not pure then they have to be able to distinguish between genes that that were introduced in the last 300 years and the genes that were introduced 800 years ago. I don’t know if the state of the art can do that.
They will use 800 year old skeletons.
"Specifically, there are persistent claims that the presence of mitochondrial haplogroup X2a in Native American populations is evidence for ancient trans-Atlantic gene flow from Europe or the Middle East into North America (Meldrum 2009 Meldrum, R. L. 2009. Rediscovering the Book of Mormon Remnant through DNA. Honeoye Falls, NY: Digital Legend Press. [Google Scholar] ; Oppenheimer et al. 2014 Oppenheimer, S., B. Bradley, and D. Stanford. 2014. “Solutrean hypothesis: Genetics, the mammoth in the room.” World Archaeology 46: 752–774. [Taylor & Francis Online], [Web of Science ®], [Google Scholar] ; Smoot et al. 2010 Smoot, S., R. Stout, and B. McLerran. 2010. The Lost Civilizations of North America. DVD. Directed by R. Stout. Bountiful, UT: Digital Legends. [Google Scholar] ; Stanford and Bradley 2012 Stanford, D. J., and B. Bradley. 2012. Across Atlantic Ice: The Origin of America's Clovis Culture. Berkeley: University of California Press. [Google Scholar] ). If true, this genetic evidence would lend considerable support to the Solutrean hypothesis, which suggests that the North American Clovis culture (13,300–12,800 cal yr BP) is directly descended from the Solutrean culture of southwestern Europe (23,500–18,000 cal yr BP)."
There was some talk earlier about difficulty in identifying pure Indian genes. Fella was saying that there is some confusion with European genes.
regarding the welsh......
the words crghtemlycmwrhtklacjrdwgh hejlksegokwsgh were scratched into the bluff
Somewhere in my basement I've got a postcard I bought near that village.
Reminds me of an old story, though I can't remember if it was about a Czech or a Hungarian ...... The (Czech|Hungarian) immigrant is getting a medical exam at Ellis Island, and the doctor points to a line way down on an eye chart, asking him, "can you read this?" The immigrant answers, " *READ* it?? Why, I *KNOW* the man!"
“Speaking solely for my superannuated self, I keep my browser screen size at 200%, the better to read the text. It also has the effect of enlarging graphics, so a smaller logo would be more convenient for me.”
BOL that is what my Chromebook 15 is set at.
This past month of so, I have had problems posting from the large screen size, only on FR. I have had to go down to normal to post at times.
What blam said. Oh, and LOL about the supposed graffiti.
“Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwyll-llantysiliogogogoch”
Sounds like something of my Welch/Scottish and Swiss ancestor combos would have written a few hundred years ago.
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