Posted on 04/19/2006 10:32:18 AM PDT by RGVTx
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C-BAND TALK RADIO WITH DANA PRETZER - SUNDAY, JUNE 18, 2006
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Sunday June 18th- (Live) Part 2 of my conversation with Jossy Mansur regarding the Holloway case.
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Nun, thanks for reposting this.
Lucy, thanks for reformatting it.
My eyes appreciate it...lol.
According to Central Bank of Aruba, Oct 2005 - Table 10, last fall:
For January, 2005 the "Average hotel occupancy rate" was 86.3%, not 85.8% as posted in this article. Therefore, the actual decline is 3.2%, not the 2.7%, as listed in this article.
The other discrepancy with the figures in this article is:
"...in comparison to 50,292 Americans that visited the island in January 2005.
From the Oct, 2005 bank Table 10, the actual figure of "Americans that visited the island in January, 2005" was 50,481, not 50,292 as stated in this article.
But, there is something even more disturbing going on here.
When I compare the Oct, 2005 Table 10 that comes up now at:
one column of figures has changed from the table that I copied last fall.
It is Column #11 "Average hotel occup rate". Almost every figure has been changed from last fall.
The figures for Jan turu Oct, 2005, Column #11, "Average hotel occup rate", when first posted last fall were:
2005:
Jan 86.3
Feb 89.8
Mar 88.9
Apr 85.0
May 79.0
Jun 78.3
Jul 85.9
Aug 83.0
Sep 69.3
Oct 77.8
Now the website for Table 10 Column #11 shows these figures:
2005:
Jan 85.8
Feb 89.4
Mar 88.8
Apr 86.1
May 78.0
Jun 78.1
Jul 86.3
Aug 83.5
Sep 69.1
Oct 77.8
As far as I can tell, all the other figures for Jan thru Oct, 2005 remain the same in both instances of Table 10.
The changes are small, but when all the other figures in the chart remain the same, how can the "Average hotel occup rate" percentages" possibly change? Why would someone go to all the trouble to make these changes?
I don't have time now to try to puzzle it out, but for sure something smells fishy in these revised figures.
I want on the ping list. My name never show up !!!
C-BAND TALK RADIO WITH DANA PRETZER - SUNDAY, JUNE 18, 2006
From BFN
Upcoming Special Guests On Sunday Night Satellite.
Sunday Nights at 10pm est
Sunday June 18th- (Live) Part 2 of my conversation with Jossy Mansur regarding the Holloway case.
Please let us know what Jossy Mansur had to say today for those who could not get to listen to the radio program. Thanks for all the info you provide!
I meant to say on the radio program tonight. Thanks for the info on what Jossy has to say.
Jossy says Lorenzo Van Rijn "seems to be Joran's half brother."
Jossy believes J2K know what happened to Natalee and it happened in Joran's apartment, not the HI, not the beach.
"We know very well whatever happened, happened in the apartment." Joran told ALE "something bad happened to Natalee." Deepak said to Joran "If they find that girl you'll get 15 years." Jossy uses these to prove his point that the J2K know what happened.
Jossy told about the guy being held as a witness, Carlos.
Says Carlos was sleeping in his car, hidden in the bushes at the north end of the island past the lighthouse. Heard a woman scream and say "No, expletive"...then the woman went silent. Man undressed, opened car trunk, got something from trunk and wrapped the woman in it. Carried her to the water, swam out then returned without body, got dressed and left the area. Carlos claims to have pieces of evidence.
Jossy says he read last year about the 7 year old's body being found at the rocks near the lighthouse(painted rocks). Didn't get much info on it due to the way ALE operates. (this doesn't add up for me since we were once told it was a sign installation, or it was rock painting to mark the roadway, now it's a body recovery scene) Callers are continuing to ask for more info on the rock painting/body recovery scene.
I missed some of the show because I couldn't connect to the site. This is all I've got for now.
Ping to 1827 and 1828
Dana played Johnny Cash's Folsom Prison for the Sloots and the Kalpoes. Now he needs to play Ring of Fire for Aruba. ;)
The half brother thing was rumored very early on....
Joran told ALE "something bad happened to Natalee." Deepak said to Joran "If they find that girl you'll get 15 years." Jossy uses these to prove his point that the J2K know what happened
And I think it proves his point very well.
Yes, it was. Now it seems more than just a rumor.
It makes me wonder about Lorenzo's 'father' committing suicide. Wonder why?
Paulus, how dirty are you?
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=3736.570
post 582--spock partial transcript.....can we bring that over??
One more thing from Jossy.
He explained about this two year time limit for suspects.
The two years gives ALE the right to pull them in for questioning without new evidence nor new warrants, etc. After the two years, new evidence would get them thrown in jail again. There is no time limit on charging anyone if the evidence is there.
Jossy made it sound very different than the BS Arlene was feeding us. Arlene made it sound like they would be forever free from charges after two years with no charges brought. Not so, Arlene!
And Dompig, you didn't need to issue the suspects invitations to question them. That two years means ALE could have demanded their appearance for questioning at anytime and still can.
I don't see why not. Spock got it from someone at RU. LOL!
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http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=3736.570
Here is a partial transcript of Jossy's latest comments concening the rock crime scene (From Heli at RU):
Dana:
What can you tell us about the rock painting
Jossy;
...a year before the Natalee disappearance, they haven't been able to identify him, the body belongs to a Columbian boy whose parents are illegal, they didn't want to come forward and didn't have money to come forward. The ppl in the video ,our reporters have identifed members of the visiblity team. One of the ppl belongs to the technical team of the police...
I don't know their names, but they were with the visibility teams which is supposed to take care of the security of tourists at the hotels and the beaches
Dane:
What are those paintings all about
Jossy
It's to mark the spot, we were also told that part of the body was missing, they would come back later to search, What bothers us is near the rock painting was found the belt which was extremely similar to the belt that Joran used around the neck of his friend.. CLose to the rock Dave went with a friend by there, they saw a police car with the trunk open as though they were puting somethin in it. It bothers me those two facts.
Dana:
It just adds to the bizarresness of the whole case. One question, I've seen photos, you mention the belt, you mention DAve, back on July 25, 2005 I see pictures that a park ranger picks up fabric and it looks to me similar fabric to a top that Natalee was wearing, But we were told it was fish net, but if you look at the picture it looks like her top for sure.
JossY
It does look very familiar to what she was wearing, but I'm unable to confrim it, we would have to go search for the fabric itself which has disappeared since. Every piece of evidence or what appears to be evidence has disappeared or we never heard about it again
Dana
Any forensic work done on any of the evidence which you say has disappeared.
Jossy;
It was given to the authorities and it must have been sent to Holland I guess... but just like those bags full of material from Joran's apartment we didn't hear anything more about it.
Caller:
I wanted to follow up about the painted rocks. It doesn't make any sense that that's a one year old crime scene and they were painting the rocks on June 10, 2005. We heard it was art work, it just seems to be the latest version of the non truth
Dana:
He's giving the info that's been given to him. I don't know if he buys it, it's an interesting bizaressness to this case about a 7 year old's body that was recovered
Dana:
The rock thing is as bizarre as it's going to get. There are a lot of bizarre things that come out of Aruba. I'm looking at the picture of that cloth, the explanation of fish net..one of the things that really concerns me is Jossy's comments about evidence disappearing. Has it literrally disappeared.
First it was "putting up a road sign", then became "artwork", now it a the recovery of a one year old corpse. The rock painting is to mark the spot so they can come back and recover a missing part of the body. I'm not buying they were there on June 10, 2005 to mark a year old crime scene.
I can't keep things straight with this anymore.
Do we know for sure he's not Paulus' from a fling or something? Was Anita previously married? how old is lorenzo? (I can look these things up later)
I doubt Lorenzo would be Anita's son and not be raised by her. My guess is Paulus had a son out of wedlock.
hence the quotes around father -- got it!
This is worth restating.
It does look very familiar to what she was wearing, but I'm unable to confrim it, we would have to go search for the fabric itself which has disappeared since. Every piece of evidence or what appears to be evidence has disappeared or we never heard about it again
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