Blogger admits Hawaii birth certificate forgery, subverting Obama claims (Uh-oh)

Israel Insider ^ | 3 July 2008 | Reuven Koret

[SE Mom]

Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fraudulent Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.

The evidence of forgery and manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider's revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the detective work of independent investigative journalists and imaging professionals in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate the Daily Kos, an extreme left blog site, and the Obama campaign, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of doubtful provenance.

The perceived unreliability of the image has provoked petitions and widespread demands for Obama to submit for objective inspection the paper versions of the "birth certificate" he claimed in his book Dreams from My Father was in his possession, as well as the paper version of the Certificate of Live Birth for which the image on the Daily Kos and the Obama "Fight the Smears" website was supposedly generated.

Without a valid birth certificate, Obama cannot prove he fulfills the "natural born citizen" requirement of the Constitution, throwing into doubt his eligibility to run for President.

McKinnon, who says he is 25-30 years old, operates a website called OpenDNA.com and uses the OpenDNA screen name on various web sites and blogs, including his comments and diary on The Daily Kos. In recent years he has divided his time between Long Beach, California and Vancouver, British Columbia. He is a Democratic political activist, frequent contributor to the left wing Daily Kos blog, and a fervent Barack Obama supporter.

[Fred Nerks]

“Where was Stanley Ann at this time?”

That is exactly what I am looking for: the ‘official’ version has it that she was back in Hawaii to commence classes near the end of September, IIRC.

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/10/how-could-stanl.html

[LucyT]

Thanks for posting the graphic with links, restornu.

[El Gato]

. A childhood friend or classmate whose date and place of birth in the U.S. you know and whose parents names you know. Now try to get the original copies of their vital records. You may be able to get a divorce record, maybe a marriage record, or find their birth listed on a public index, but you’re not going to get the original birth or death record, using legal means

Well, if my school chum was still alive, I could ask him for a copy of his birth certificate, or better ask him to have a copy sent to me direct from the state vital statistics agency, in the state he claimed to be born in.

Assuming I had some reason to need the information, if he wouldn't do that, I'd start to get suspicious that he wasn't who he said he was, or that there was some other information on that certificate that he was hiding.

[Fred Nerks]

MAJOR PING!

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Regular readers of my columns know I have several FOIAs (Freedom of Information Act Requests) underway. I also filed a state records act request with the University of Hawaii, Manoa, regarding Stanley Ann Dunham, Obama's mother. This request is determine whether or not she was attending college as claimed during the time Obama was allegedly born in Hawaii. Dunham graduated from high school in 1960. Her family then relocated to Hawaii where she enrolled at the University of Hawaii at Manoa.

There she met Barack Obama, Sr. They married on February 2, 1961; Dunham was three months pregnant at the time. According to the University of Hawaii, Obama's mother attended school in the fall of 1960, but did not return to their campus until Spring of 1963. See Attached UH Registrar Letter

Two of my FOIAs involve records from the U.S. State Department regarding Dunham's departure(s) from the U.S. and arrival(s) back onto U.S. soil during 1961. To date, I haven't received a response from them, but it is apparent that Obama's mother was not in school during the entire year of 1961, 1962 and part of 1963.

[LucyT]

Thanks, Fred Nerks; major ping, indeed.

but it is apparent that Obama's mother was not in school during the entire year of 1961, 1962 and part of 1963.

[Fred Nerks]

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/10/how-could-stanl.html

now compare the dates with those on the so-called letter on Atlas Shrugged:

Dates of attendance:
Fall 1960 (First day of instruction 9/26/1960)
Spring 1963 - Summer 1966
Fall 1972 - Fall 1974
Summer 1976
Spring 1978
Fall 1984 - Summer 1992

Someone has added: (First day of instruction 9/26/1960)

Why? To make it appear she was there? Why THAT particular date?

To keep our eyes off that she may have been somewhere she should not have been? Like at the Hotel Theresa maybe meeting her heroes, Castro, Krushchev and Malcolm X? They were interesting times.

[FlashBack]

Thanks for the contiued ‘pings’ and thanks to everyone who has come up with all the info!!
Right now, my heads about to explode...gotta get some zzz’s!

[mojitojoe]

LOL, I know what you mean. I’m totally confused. I still think he was born in Canada, she decided to keep the baby and crossed the border and went to her friend’s house in Seattle.

[little jeremiah]

Very interesting. It sure would be interesting to have the fake timeline from 0bama’s novellette compared with the facts that are known, side by side.

[Fred Nerks]

I just want to know when and where he was born, what his name is and who his father was. That’s not too much to ask.

[little jeremiah]

I wouldn’t mind knowing what nationality he is, too. I really don’t care about his grades in college.

I don’t think any of them are too much to ask. In fact, if anyone doesn’t care about that set of facts, or thinks that 0bama is truthful - then that person is either terminally stupid, or on the dark side.

[Fred Nerks]

Or they voted for him and bought the hope and change story and now they are too embarrassed to admit it, so they defend him.

But if you go through all that has been hidden, there is a good reason for each. Any of the college records would show him either to have a different name, perhaps applied as a foreign student...and of Indonesian nationality, religion muslim. Hard to win an election with that kind of pedigree.

The withholding of medical records also points to a problem with the names, plus he would not want his BLOOD GROUP known...a blood group that could show the man whom he claims was his father, could NOT have been his father...

It's interesting that the marriage certificate when he married Michelle is also an abstract.

dated 4/29/2004 - reminds me of the Certification of Live Birth. Nothing available in the original?

[Fred Nerks]

EXCLUSIVE: Did Next Commander-in-Chief Falsify Selective Service Registration? Never Actually Register? Obama's Draft Registration Raises Serious Questions

Document Location Number Indicates Obama Selective Service Form was Created in 2008

[maggief]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2007/09/23/2007-09-23_when_the_worlds_notorious_leaders_take_t.html

The most flamboyant UN visit ever was the Cuban leader's 11-day jaunt in 1960, two years after he came to power.

He and his 90 green-fatigues-clad guerrillas were booted from the sedate East Side Shelburne Hotel by managers who complained about cooking in the rooms and demanded a $10,000 security deposit.

Castro threatened to pitch tents in Central Park. “We are mountain people. We are used to sleeping in the open air,” he said.

Instead he went to the Theresa Hotel in Harlem, ( where he was met by cheering crowds and held highly publicized powwows with Malcolm X, Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev and poets Allen Ginsburg and Langston Hughes.

Castro and his men ran up a $1,700 room-service bill for steaks, rum, cigars and - some said - female companionship of the blond and redhead variety.

The Daily News reported that “a hotel employee said Fidel himself had a visitor from 2 a.m. to 3:30 a.m. ... an attractive bosomy blonde. The employee did not know whether they discussed high international policy.”

His invective-filled speech to the UN lasted four hours, 26 minutes - still a record. Pro- and anti-Castro youths brawled in a West Side restaurant and a 9-year-old girl was shot dead.

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September 19, 1960: Castro Moves to Harlem, Eisenhower Calls Visiting Heads of State ‘Troublemakers’

http://thisdayinthe60s.blogspot.com/2006/09/september-19-1960-castro-moves-to.html

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I always remember when I met with Malcolm X at the hotel Teresa, because he was the one who gave us support and made it possible for us to be accommodated there. We had two choices: one was the patio in the United Nations; when I told this to the Secretary General he was horrified at the thought of a delegation camping in tents there; and then we received Malcolm X's offer, he had talked to one of our comrades, and I said: "That is the place, Hotel Teresa." And there we went. - Fidel Castro

(snip)

We followed Malcolm and his aides, Joseph and John X, down the ninth-floor corridor. It was lined with photographers disgruntled because they had no glimpse of the bearded Castro, with writers vexed because security men kept pushing them back.

More here ...

[Gemsbok]

Isn’t this a bit of de ja vue for all of you? And, I hope anyone who accessed FOIA documents has copy since information may become permanently unavaiable.

Without digging back through the megathread to early last summer, I recall that this exact trail and the photos were ‘hot’ back then.

Then we had the expert ‘detractors’ jump in the thread and declare S.Armor Dunham was not the guy in the photos or they somehow disappeared leaving a cold trail.

Really, why would the guy ‘from the furniture store’ be greeting African students at the airport or dock? Armour’s history of starting in Kansas and passing through Texas? California? and settling on in Washington prior to Hawaii is ‘stinky’. In the 1940’s & 50’s, men just didn’t jump in the car with a young family and criss-cross the country, ‘city-hopping’ for jobs as a furniture salesman. I’d be curious to know the extent of his customer base at the stores in Seattle or Honolulu. Did this guy really work there? There are just as many unknowns about that SAD as there are about his offspring.

BTW, did the initials on young Ann’s pinafore jumper in the posed family portrait ever lead to any definitive location? I had recieved email wayback that the school was in the ME (Lebanon) and assumed it was another wild goose chase, but anything is possible.

[FlashBack]

Someone should write this up in novel form and get it printed...best-seller for sure!!!!!

[David]

“Where was Stanley Ann at this time?” That is exactly what I am looking for: the ‘official’ version has it that she was back in Hawaii to commence classes near the end of September, IIRC.

This "attending the University of Washington in August 1961" point keeps coming up with no authentication of the date other than the conventional view that classes for the fall tend to start in August.

At the University of Washington, fall quarter classes start, not in August, but in late September. In 1961, as I recall, they started in the last week of September--and I know because I was there.

Somewhere else, there is also a note that her registration was for extension classes, not real attendance in which case she could have been an extension student at the U of W in Hawaii or anywhere else.

[David]

Regular readers of my columns know I have several FOIAs (Freedom of Information Act Requests) underway. I also filed a state records act request with the University of Hawaii, Manoa, regarding Stanley Ann Dunham, Obama's mother. This request is determine whether or not she was attending college as claimed during the time Obama was allegedly born in Hawaii. Dunham graduated from high school in 1960. Her family then relocated to Hawaii where she enrolled at the University of Hawaii at Manoa.

There she met Barack Obama, Sr. They married on February 2, 1961; Dunham was three months pregnant at the time. According to the University of Hawaii, Obama's mother attended school in the fall of 1960, but did not return to their campus until Spring of 1963. See Attached UH Registrar Letter

Two of my FOIAs involve records from the U.S. State Department regarding Dunham's departure(s) from the U.S. and arrival(s) back onto U.S. soil during 1961. To date, I haven't received a response from them, but it is apparent that Obama's mother was not in school during the entire year of 1961, 1962 and part of 1963.

As I believe you recognize, I have always believed that the chronology through August, 1961 is a critical part of the record because it fits the course of events as I believe they happened--they went to Kenya to get married because it would have constituted criminal bigamy in Hawaii; she stayed--he returned to school at U of H; she was obstructed getting on the airplane in Nariobi in July and could not return to the states; Barack born in Coast Hospital at Mombasa on August 4 Kenya time and date; she gets on the airplane that day or the next (British Overseas Airline--see the schedule posted on this thread); returns to Vancouver BC through Glaskow Scotland; then to Seattle for the stopover with several of her friends testifying she was there before she had learned to change diapers; then on to Hawaii before the 8th when she signed an affidavit of Live Birth and filed it with Hawaii Dept of Public Health.

Most of this post agrees with that time line and otherwise reflects the facts as I see them down to "Obama's mother was not in school during the entire year of 1961, 1962 and part of 1963"--I don't think that is a necessary part of the timeline. No doubt she didn't return to U of Hawaii until spring 1963 but I also believe there is a record of her attendance in spring quarter of 1962 and perhaps fall quarter of 1962 that she was at the U of W in Seattle. Probable reason for the extension course she signed up for in August of 1961 at the U of W was to comply with transfer entrance which permitted her to become a resident student in 62.

[little jeremiah]

I remember reading that his marriage “license” was merely an abstract, with a recent printout date. Why on earth would he have had to get an abstract at that time? What could be on the origianl license that he doesn’t want people to see? He was married, according to the abstract, in 1992. Was he using a different name that recently?

And how cute that Jeremiah Wright, the “pastor” at the Trinity “Hate Whitey” Commie so-called church, married them. I wonder what kind of ceremony it was.

[little jeremiah]

A while ago people were discussing the initials on the jumper and it seemed to me that they were initials at a local private school.

I agree that Stanley Dunham’s history would be useful. If that is indeed him he in the picture (and it looks as though it is), why is he there? In 1959 he would have just arrived in HI, it was a very insular community, he would be a nobody and know no one. What is the connection? There is a connection, it’s been hidden from view.