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Obama's Birth Certificate -- Link Thread [Vanity]
link research thread -- numerous sources

Posted on 10/24/2008 7:54:01 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March

Overview:

There are lawsuits being filed in multiple states. If Obama has nothing to hide, then his behavior is foolish both politically and cash-wise [legal fees] -- it would have been easy to end speculation by simply showing his birth certificate. Among the first to challenge his qualification to be president were the PUMAs. The most well reported lawsuit is by Berg, a Hillary supporter. One of the recent shockers is that Obama's Kenyan grandmother reportedly witnessed him born in Kenya. Another shocker is that Obama was, at least technically, Islamic while in Indonesia. There is also a flimsy paper trail regarding his visa and adoption in Indonesia. What documents were shown on the internet are discredited. And Factcheck.org is not a reliable source, having ties with Annenberg.

The political aspect: BO’s stonewalling makes the Birth Certificate Question alone reason enough for someone to conclude that voting for him would be irresponsible. As vigilant citizens, we are each required to vote Constitutionally. If we are not convinced that he qualifies Constitutionally, then we cannot vote for him. It’s an ‘honor thing’.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Reference
KEYWORDS: antichrist; bc; birthcertificate; certifigate; colb; frankmarshalldavis; kenya; leftwingconspiracy; obama; obamafamily; obamagate; obamatruthfile
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To: Polarik

Cold? I’m not sure I know what you mean, but the never ending thread is still alive and kicking.


151 posted on 10/25/2008 10:12:05 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant; LucyT; Fred Nerks; Polarik; Beckwith; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Grampa Dave; ntnychik; ...

Click Los Tres Amigos & Win A Hawaiian COLB!

152 posted on 10/25/2008 10:41:50 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo

LOLOL!

You are terrific!


153 posted on 10/25/2008 11:36:47 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Sarah'cuda Rocks!)
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To: television is just wrong

If it were just one lawsuit, this issue would have been kept ‘fringe’. Now we have lawsuits in Washington and Utah — petition drive in Hawaii [and a special request] — and Berg will continue to pursue one in Philadelphia. Someone mentioned eight lawsuits in all. This isn’t just ‘one kook’ [not that I have any reason to believe Berg is more kooky than other democrats].


154 posted on 10/26/2008 1:34:27 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (The Economy helps the rats? How? They CAUSED Fannie/Freddie Meltdown. Embrace this issue.)
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To: Polarik

“Where are al my posts??”

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:polarik/index?tab=comments;brevity=full;options=no-change


155 posted on 10/26/2008 1:39:40 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (The Economy helps the rats? How? They CAUSED Fannie/Freddie Meltdown. Embrace this issue.)
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To: justiceseeker93

“I had heard from another source that Berg has in his possession more than the Kenya grandmother audiotape”

That point alone is enough to keep this issue growing. Since his grandmother is a witness, his COLB [vault copy] is the only political solution to end speculation.

As for court problems, the voter is supposed to uphold the Constitution in the way he/she votes. I’ve always thought that would be the most likely route. Once the info comes out, Obama will lose political support.


156 posted on 10/26/2008 1:58:19 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (The Economy helps the rats? How? They CAUSED Fannie/Freddie Meltdown. Embrace this issue.)
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To: PhilDragoo

ROFL!


157 posted on 10/26/2008 1:59:48 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (The Economy helps the rats? How? They CAUSED Fannie/Freddie Meltdown. Embrace this issue.)
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To: markedmannerf

Berg will appeal:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2114952/posts?page=117


158 posted on 10/26/2008 2:03:18 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (The Economy helps the rats? How? They CAUSED Fannie/Freddie Meltdown. Embrace this issue.)
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To: MHGinTN

Berg is appealing:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2115274/posts


159 posted on 10/26/2008 2:05:29 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (The Economy helps the rats? How? They CAUSED Fannie/Freddie Meltdown. Embrace this issue.)
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To: hecht; Canedawg

Obama Citizenship Lawsuit Filed in Cincinnati-Now a Total of NINE Lawsuits
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2114681/posts
[posted by hecht]

Obama citizen question goes to U.S. Supreme Court
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2115494/posts

Judge Surrick “Received” the Decision He Issued [Fishy Fax]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2115420/posts?page=12
[Note Canedawg is looking into this carefully — post 12 and 39]

Berg Lawsuit - Fox News
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2115307/posts

Obama’s Birth Certificate Judge-Obama Linkage [Is Judge Surrick tainted?]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2115270/posts


160 posted on 10/26/2008 5:45:52 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (We can win the economic meltdown debate: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2115485/posts)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
If anyone has a link to a clear, legible copy of the decision, please ping me. Arthur, as I and others have indicated over the past few weeks, the dismissal of the case based on lack of standing was quite predictable, based on stare decisis

I skimmed some of the 34 page decision, but the copy i downloaded is hard to read. It does appear to contain an in depth discussion of the legal issues presented by a case of this nature. For example, one thing I noticed was the court stating that a request for documents under FOIA would require disclosure by a governmental agency, INCLUDING the executive branch, though it does not apply to private entities.
161 posted on 10/26/2008 5:59:13 AM PDT by Canedawg ("The media is a ass," said Mr. Bumble.)
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To: Canedawg

Thank you, FRiend. — FRegards ....


162 posted on 10/26/2008 6:04:07 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (We can win the economic meltdown debate: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2115485/posts)
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To: pissant
Cold? I’m not sure I know what you mean, but the never ending thread is still alive and kicking.

With so many folks asking the same questions we answered, circa June 2008, I know that these same people never read any of my posts. It's time to resurrect them.

On the one hand, we have over 6,000 replies on the "Blogger admits forgery...uh-oh" post that was about Jay McKinnon, but check out the counts to my posts, and the dates of last entry, and you will see what I mean.

Now is the time to push the issue of the forged COLB image big-time, because the more people know and understand WHY it is bogus, the more will ask, "What else illegal has Obama and company?"

"Certifigate" is at least as big as Watergate -- more likely, it's a lot bigger -- because Nixon's "dirty tricks" pale in comparison to Obama's "traitorous tricks."

This linchpin was sort of buried in Berg's suit, and had no greater status than the contention that Obama was born in Kenya.

The conspiracy to commit fraud and the conspiracy to cover-up this fraud will become the de facto issue that challenges Obama's right to become POTUS.

People forget that this election is not just about choosing a President, but also about choosing local, state, and national leaders.

ALL of the seats in the House of Representatives are up for reelection!! We must contact them now and demand that they require Obama to show proof of his birth and nationality..

Likewise, there's also a bunch of Senators whose current term also expires

They, too, need to be contacted and pressed on this same issue.

163 posted on 10/26/2008 11:54:34 AM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

It’s not his COLB that will end speculation. A COLB is a “poor cousin” to a Cetificate of Birth (birth certificate). A birth certificate is made immediately after the birth, while a COLB may be made years or decades later and contains less info. COLBs can be forged much more easily than BCs. That’s why, e. g., the State Dept. doesn’t accept COLBs for passport applicants.


164 posted on 10/26/2008 2:34:24 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Polarik
Get the word out about Obama's non-birth certificate.

http://rumormillnews.com/MEDIA_EMAIL_ADDRESSES.htm

165 posted on 10/26/2008 7:50:02 PM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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To: justiceseeker93

Thank you for clearing that up. And speaking of which, here’s a headline:

Obama’s birth certificate sealed by Hawaii governor
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=79174
Says Democratic senator must make request to obtain original document


166 posted on 10/27/2008 2:51:10 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (We can win the economic meltdown debate: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2115485/posts)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

It just burns me up that the press says NOTHING about these unusual circumstances. McCain has to produce all sorts of stuff the prove he’s eligible (even though it’s a no brainer since he was a military brat). Obama’s stuff is freaking *sealed*. This is ridiculous! The guy wants to be elected President and we can’t see a birth certificate?? This is a farce!


167 posted on 10/27/2008 3:10:17 AM PDT by visualops (portraits.artlife.us or visit my freeper page)
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To: visualops

It should burn you up. Fortunately, there are countless ways that FReepers can reach out through the internet. One FRiend is visiting college forums for example.

—FRegards ....


168 posted on 10/27/2008 3:22:32 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (We can win the economic meltdown debate: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2115485/posts)
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To: visualops

An extremely comprehensive timeline for Obama [birth included]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2116100/posts

Obama’s birth certificate sealed by Hawaii governor
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2116120/posts
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=79174

Judge Surrick has some ’splainin’ to do… [Berg’s judge]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2115938/posts


169 posted on 10/27/2008 4:42:04 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (We can win the economic meltdown debate: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2115485/posts)
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To: Polarik

The Obama Timeline: 1961-2008 [Mens News Daily]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2116758/posts


170 posted on 10/27/2008 5:27:48 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (We can win the economic meltdown debate: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2115485/posts)
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To: LucyT

Bump.


171 posted on 10/28/2008 1:40:09 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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To: nw_arizona_granny; MeekOneGOP; Beckwith; syriacus; stockpirate; Fred Nerks; Chief Engineer; Quix; ..

Certifigate flounders due to conservatives confusing a job application [the election] with a court of law. But the issue still simmers— a political issue begging to be spoken of— and those who told us ‘Drop it’ could well rue their decision if BO wins.

Here’s the root of BO’s BC defense: Factcheck.org. And this is something new:

FactCheck Takes Sides on Self Defense
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2118067/posts
“FactCheck.org website once again shows that FactCheck cherry-picks “facts” to suit its anti-NRA, anti-gun, anti-self-defense agenda—an agenda that the American people do not share.”

Here’s another thing — it’s not just the birth certificate. It’s all the hidden records:

Obama Continues To Withhold Multiple Official Documents (Very Long List...Who Is This Masked Man?)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2117333/posts

DID SOMEONE TELL JUDGE R. BARCLAY SURRICK WHAT HIS RULING WOULD BE?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2117667/posts
“The original faxed decision from the Clerk of the US District Court for the Eastern District of PA to attorney Philip J Berg appears to have been faxed to Judge Surrick for him to sign.”

The Great Obama Swindle of 2008 [Certifigate]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2118289/posts

Obama Birth Issue Getting Traction
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2118283/posts

Did The “Chicago Way” Work for Obama in Hawaii?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2118177/posts
“And whaddaya know? His plane had barely touched down from his trip to Honolulu ... when Linda Lingle placed his birth c. under seal [snip]


172 posted on 10/29/2008 4:15:36 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (We can win the economic meltdown debate: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2115485/posts)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Thanks for the ping!


173 posted on 10/29/2008 7:26:45 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Obama’s Kenya family halts media interviews (Police will restrict visitors)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2119334/posts

Obama Birth Issue Getting Traction
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2118283/posts
China Confidential

GARCIA: Strange case of Obama birth record
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2118738/posts

Important key word, Odinga [the thug of Kenya who coordinates with Obama]
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/odinga/index


174 posted on 10/30/2008 4:21:00 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (We can win the economic meltdown debate: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2115485/posts)
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To: Alamo-Girl

It’s heating up!

Supreme Court asked to halt Tuesday’s vote [Berg litigation]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2120416/posts
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=79519
Constitutional crisis feared over Obama’s ‘qualifications’

Ruling to come on Obama birth case — Ohio
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=79524

ATLAS SHRUGS HAS EMAIL EVIDENCE, STANLEY ANN DUNHAM NOT IN HAWAII WHEN OBAMA BORN?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2117322/posts

The Audacity of Foreign Citizenship
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2119892/posts

After Obama, McCain rulings, PA state rep. wants presidential candidates to prove citizenship
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2120318/posts


175 posted on 10/31/2008 4:45:48 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (We can win the economic meltdown debate: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2115485/posts)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Rush Limbaugh and other radio hosts are complaining about being swarmed with pleas to discuss certifigate. That tells me that the political pressure is mounting.


176 posted on 10/31/2008 4:49:18 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (We can win the economic meltdown debate: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2115485/posts)
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To: All

Obama Must Stand Up Now Or Step Down (Birth Certificate)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2120537/posts?page=1

“Whether the evidence will show that Obama is, or is not, “a natural born Citizen” who has never renounced his American citizenship is an open question. The arguments on both sides are as yet speculative. But Obama’s stubborn refusal to provide what he claims is “his own” country with conclusive proof on that score compels the presumption that he knows, or at least strongly suspects, that no sufficient evidence in his favor exists.” — Edwin Vieira, Jr


Edwin Vieira, Jr., holds four degrees from Harvard: A.B. (Harvard College), A.M. and Ph.D. (Harvard Graduate School of Arts and Sciences), and J.D. (Harvard Law School).

For more than thirty years he has practiced law, with emphasis on constitutional issues. In the Supreme Court of the United States he successfully argued or briefed the cases leading to the landmark decisions Abood v. Detroit Board of Education, Chicago Teachers Union v. Hudson, and Communications Workers of America v. Beck, which established constitutional and statutory limitations on the uses to which labor unions, in both the private and the public sectors, may apply fees extracted from nonunion workers as a condition of their employment.


177 posted on 10/31/2008 6:51:50 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (We can win the economic meltdown debate: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2115485/posts)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Thanks for the ping!


178 posted on 10/31/2008 8:33:40 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

Witness on video:

New Video of Sarah Obama admitting Barack’s Kenyan Birth
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2121662/posts

Hawaiian Officials Admit Withholding Obama’s Original Birth Certificate
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2121626/posts

Ohio challenge to Obama’s citizenship tossed
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=79661


179 posted on 11/01/2008 8:25:30 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (We can win the economic meltdown debate: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2115485/posts)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Thanks for the ping!


180 posted on 11/01/2008 8:38:33 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

Berg Released Info. FReepers investigating [and TAVs, Trolls Against Vigilance, are nagging us to shut up]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2122351/posts?page=51

New Video Discussing Sarah Obama’s recent Audio and Video Admissions of Baracks Birth in Kenya
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122396/posts
[Video that puts together the two pieces of audio and video evidence that documents Sarah Obama admitting that Barack Obama was born in Kenya.]

Barack Obama - Born in Kenya II [1 min 58 sec VIDEO]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2121733/posts?page=2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4FqVRWgrNw

State of Hawaii Backs Andy Martin
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122204/posts
Martin won a stunning victory Friday afternoon (October 31st) when the State of Hawai’i backed his

assertion that there was an original, “typewritten, 1961” birth certificate, called a “Certificate of Live

Birth” or “COLB” in Hawai’i, that no one has previously seen. [snip]


181 posted on 11/02/2008 4:38:26 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (We can win the economic meltdown debate: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2115485/posts)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Thanks for the ping!


182 posted on 11/02/2008 8:02:53 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl; Beckwith; stockpirate; Fred Nerks; Chief Engineer; MizSterious; backhoe

Doubts persist about Obama birth certificate [WND]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2123076/posts

Vice presidential Candidate filing lawsuit against Obama [Wiley S. Drake Sr.]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122700/posts
“I suppose a declared candidate for office would have standing. This should be interesting.” — Kevmo


183 posted on 11/03/2008 3:45:46 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (We can win the economic meltdown debate: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2115485/posts)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Thanks for the ping!


184 posted on 11/03/2008 7:45:58 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl; Beckwith; stockpirate; Fred Nerks; Chief Engineer; MizSterious

If Obama wins, Certifigate will become more important than ever, won’t it? Here’s the latest:

Obama’s bogus birth certificate: Proof that the border was created separately[?]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2123682/posts

Is this Obama’s real birth certificate?
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=80000
Newly released ‘document’ could solve mystery of Democrat’s citizenship

Doubts persist about Obama birth certificate
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=79900
Considerable evidence still points to candidate’s birth in Kenya

Virginia State Court Dismisses Action Challenging Obama’s Eligibility to be President
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2123806/posts?page=1
[Was there a lawsuit in my state? Why is this the first I heard of it?]


185 posted on 11/04/2008 5:37:49 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (We can win the economic meltdown debate: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2115485/posts)
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To: Quix

CNN poll on Obama: 6 of 10 doubt U.S. birth story
http://www.kltv.com/Global/story.asp?S=12932570
6 of 10 people are uncertain the president was even born in the United States.

These 6 out of 10 also tend to be the backbone of US patriotism. Why do they [and I] have suspicions? Maybe this is one reason:

From the AP in 2004: Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate
http://www.fireandreamitchell.com/2009/10/14/from-the-ap-in-2004-kenyan-born-obama-all-set-for-us-senate

Then there is that whole witness thing, people who should know more than most of us about Obama’s BC and said he wasn’t born in Hawaaii: Tim Adams, his own wife, the Kenyan Ambassador, his own grandmother, the Kenyan Parliament Minister of Lands, the Kenyan Parliament Minister, and others.

Then there’s Christopher Strunk: Obama had to be an Indonesian citizen [compelling case].




Justice Clarence Thomas: We’re ‘evading’ eligibility
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=142101
Does testimony hint at division behind Supreme Court’s doors?

CNN poll on Obama: 6 of 10 doubt U.S. birth story
http://www.kltv.com/Global/story.asp?S=12932570
6 of 10 people are uncertain the president was even born in the United States.

[Certifigate] DC Knows that Obama is Ineligible for Office
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2496984/posts


[Understanding RINO Resistance — my take.]

To understand why Ruling Class RINO leaders act so strangely about BO’s Certifigate scandal, you need to first understand history.

No Jail Time for Sandy Bergler
http://musing-minds.com/2005/09/08/no-jail-time-for-sandy-bergler

The American Spectator : Code Word Bergler
http://spectator.org/archives/2004/07/26/code-word-bergler

Politics of the past — President Bush [God love him] was giving the democrat party life support. Truth was “too dangerous to touch”. What is the thanks Bush gets? A vice president Biden who wants to hold war trials for the previous administration. Don’t play with rattlesnakes — end their ability to harm you.

Did you ever hear the great uproar by the GOP over Clinton pardoning a crack dealer for cash?

Another Pardon, Another Controversy
http://speakout.com/activism/news/5653-1.html
Hugh Rodham [Hillary’s brother] received a contingency fee in connection with a pardon ... a scheme to distribute 800 pounds of crack cocaine [snip]

Imagine if Bush had pardoned a crack dealer for cash. How quiet would the DNC and the Drive-bys have been about it? The RNC is so issues-focused, they are obsessed about giving the DNC cover. It’s apparently been that way ever since Joe MacArthy. Conservative leaders have always held their punches. They rationalize away their fear. Back in William F. Buckley’s day, that was necessary. It’s a different world now with copy-paste, Control + A — web-communication and twitter.


Zero has chosen a very interesting law firm to represent him in certifigate:
Perkins Coie
http://yesbuthowever.com/perkins-coie-massachusetts-8136453
“The firm has successfully navigated close elections for Minnesota Senator Al Franken [recounted until felons’ illegal votes made it ‘right’ ], Washington Governor Christine Gregoire and helped bend [break] election laws in New Jersey to benefit Senator Frank Lautenberg in 2002.”

The [Terrorist loving] Hippies Who “Certified” Obama
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2454752/posts?page=36#36
http://www.theobamafile.com/_eligibility/AnnenbergFactCheckers.htm

Obama was vetted by Annenberg. But they have a history of being cronies and sugerdaddies for Obama AND unrepentent terrorist, Bill Ayers. Obama and the terrorist had Annenberg offices near each other. Annenberg is the best the DNC could come up with to vet their candidate. Bill Ayers is a sworn enemy of US soldiers.

“He used DOJ attorneys [to defend his BC secrecy]! These attorneys are paid by the U.S. taxpayer! And...He distracted these DOJ attorneys from the important work of keeping Americans safe!” — wintertime

Michelle Obama: Kenya is Obama’s Home Country
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLDHDfPNBME
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M7Rp_Ghv6k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx3-MGHFXkc

Former Obama Supporters:
http://formerobamasupporters.com/53097/michelle-obama-admits-that-baracks-home-country-is-kenya-obama-birth-certificate/
“Michelle Obama in her own words admits that Barack’s home country is Kenya. When you hear the MSM report that the Obama Birth Certificate issue is a non-issue and not valid to be debated, they are telling us an outright lie.” [snip]

From the AP in 2004: Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate
http://www.fireandreamitchell.com/2009/10/14/from-the-ap-in-2004-kenyan-born-obama-all-set-for-us-senate/

Tim Adams
http://www.westernjournalism.com/hawaii-elections-clerk-obama-not-born-here/
“Barack Obama was definitely not born in Hawaii as the White House maintains, and that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Obama does not even exist in the Aloha State.”

Confirmed by Hawaii that Tim Adams did indeed work as a senior elections clerk in 2008
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/06/hawaii-confirms-tim-adams-was-senior.html

Kenyan Ambassador Peter Ogego Admits Obama Was Born In Kenya
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=D1ED7113A5C418EB&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&v=M7BLOcpceRY

James Orengo (the Kenyan Parliament Minister of Lands) Says Obama was Born in Kenya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HD2Y_d7_tAM

Kenyan Parliament Minister Says Obama was Born in Kenya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDyWOOHop7g


Christopher Strunk [in 2008] contended that Obama, aka Barry Soetoro, was registered as an Indonesian citizen to attend the Fransiskus Assisi School in Jakarta, and that “The Indonesian school, upon registration of a new student, verified the citizenship status and name of the child with the Indonesian Government; moreover, Indonesian Immigration and police checked all public schools on a weekly basis to ensure the only students attending were in fact Indonesian citizens”.

In Depth Youtube on Birth Certificate [six minutes]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC54PXA0jG0&feature=related
[analysis of an anonymous COLB buff: Jr was adopted by Lolo Soetoro when Lolo married his mother, Ann, in 1966. At that time Indonesia was a police state and the only way jr could have gone to school was if he was an Indonesian citizen. Ann and jr followed Lolo to Indonesia in 1967 where he was enrolled in school by his adopted name(Barry Soetoro) and the religion of his step-father. (Islam) There are no records of Barry Soetoro legally changing his name back to Barack (pronounced Bear ick by his real father) if that ever was his name! There is also no record of him going before a judge for naturalization which he would have needed to have done because Indonesia does not allow dual citizenship!]


GSA refutes State Department’s claim about destruction of records
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2588107/posts

Are ABC, CBS, NBC, FactCheck, and N.Y. Times ‘birthers’ too?

McCain ‘birthers’: ABC, CBS, NBC, FactCheck, N.Y. Times
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=127362
Eligibility issue was huge in 2008 when Obama opponent was focus of attention

Obama’s birth certificate sealed by Hawaii governor
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2116120/posts
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=79174

Why Pelosi Signed Two Certificates of Nomination
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2585683/posts
“Why did the Hawaii Democratic Party refuse to certify Obama’s eligibility?”


BO’s [missing] Kindergarten records would have included verification of his BC. And there’s more. Please note LucyT’s post 33:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2584059/posts?page=33#33

It’s damxing as heck.

Here’s the research address:
http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaEducation.htm#PreSchool


Dem: Obama’s grandma confirms Kenyan birth
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2113780/posts
[Berg] has confirmed he has a recording of a telephone call from the senator’s paternal grandmother confirming his birth in Kenya.”
[related thread]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2113828/posts

WND also ‘ax’ing — Obama ‘admits’ Kenyan birth?
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=78671

Blogger admits Hawaii birth certificate [COLB] forgery, subverting Obama claims
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2040486/posts

Axelrod a Birther-in-Reverse Too Now?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2533685/posts
“... questions legitimacy of SC candidate Alvin Greene”


The Invisible Man [Obama]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2584059/posts

Obama African Birth Certificate?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2558792/posts

KEY WORD:
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/certifigate/index


The Obama Timeline: 1961-2008 [Mens News Daily]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2116758/posts

comprehensive timeline for Obama
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2116100/posts


NRO Examines Birth Certificate
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2113569/posts

Originalism and the Natural Born Citizen Clause
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2112732/posts

Obama’s Timeline [Bio Chronology]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2112616/posts

Oops! Obama tells another nativity fib?
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=125351
Records indicate father not part of Kenyan airlift, as prez said

WND’s complete archive of news reports on Certifigate
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=98546

Are there multiple records of Obama’s Selective Service registration?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2467021/posts?page=41

Investigators: Obama using Connecticut Soc. Sec. Number
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=152773
3 experts insist White House answer new questions about documentation

Hawaii Wants to Fine Me After Framing Me [a fellow FReeper]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2466896/posts
“The Office of Taxation wants to fine people who are labeled ‘vexatious requestors’”

Blackstone’s Commentaries on Citizenship
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2501693/posts

How the Media Lied about Obama’s Birth Records [A.I.M. nails it.]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2495129/posts

Kenyan Minister Khalwale Asks When Obama Will Repatriate Himself
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2496454/posts

4 Supreme Court Cases define “natural born citizen”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2470873/posts
[In a roundabout way, the law is arguably Birther Too]

Vattel Cited: Records of the Federal Convention1787 (Natural Born Citizen)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2499410/posts


Post by LucyT:

0bama’s Noelani Kindergarten records are oddly missing from the the State of Hawaii Department of Education.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2584059/posts?page=33#33
http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaEducation.htm#PreSchool

This is an important feature because K-records for original school entry would have contained the following:

1. His REAL Birth Certificate.

2. An application with the following:

—1. His Legal name.
—2. Parents or Legal Guardians’ names.
—3. Date of Birth
—4. Place of Birth
—5. Vaccination Records
(revealing a timeline to the place and DOB.)

It also is important for two reasons:

A. The Dept. of Education does not “lose” the records of one particular student. (Who paid whom what sum to make this record disappear?)

B. There would have been NO shameful low-test scores, NO embarrassing Equal Opportunity advancements, and NO trails of fraudulent funding to hide which could possibly ‘excuse’ the quashing of public school Kindergarten entry records.

For the rest of his life he attended very expensive private schools and has had his records legally sealed to deny the public, his true life story.

This is different. Hawaii should be able to verify he attended their school since he is featured in class photographs. State and federal tax dollars paid for his initial year of education. Why is there no documentation?

This is the ‘tip of the iceberg’ of an intentionally erased life of a fraudulent conman and it reeks of complicity by officials within the State of Hawaii’s Dept. of Health & Dept. of Education.


Hawaii DOH Has Destroyed Permanent Records
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2515933/posts

The researcher, butterdezillion, has compelling reason to believe the papers were destroyed this year AFTER getting requests to see them:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2515933/posts?page=65#65

Another new twist in birth certificate story: Hawaii “paper copy was destroyed in a fire”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2463047/posts
[United Kingdom’s Sky News]


Deeper Look at Factcheck.org’s tap dance
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2517964/posts


I’m a birther? Yeah, I’m pro-motherhood. I’d be embarrassed trying to call people ‘birthers’, the perfect word for anyone who thinks birth is obscene and abortion is cool. That said, I’d rather be a birther than a sucker [who gives cover to brain suckers via partial birth abortion].

Some people tell us to focus on other issues. I would rather they said ‘prioritize’. Focus means ‘telescopic site’, which is lousy when you have a lot of moving targets.


Tigerseye has a list of just how secretive the left’s president is [note that FOIA has penetrated some of these mysteries with the force of law after massive stonewalling, which only opened more mysteries].

0bamas’ hidden records: Why are these off limits?
1 Certified copy of original birth certificate
2 Columbia University transcripts
3 Columbia thesis paper
4 Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups
5 Harvard University transcripts
6 Illinois State Senate records
7 Illinois State Senate schedule
8 Law practice client list and billing records/summary
9 Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mother
10 Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)
11 Occidental College Transcripts
12 Parent’s marriage Certificate
13 Record of baptism
14 Selective Service registration records
(Did Obama Actually Register for Selective Service? This supposed revelation of 0’s SS records has been debunked. Check with tigerseye who showed me this list.)
15 Schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007
16 Passport records for all passports
17 Scholarly articles
18 SAT and LSAT test scores
19 Access to his grandmother in Kenya
20 List of all campaign workers that are lobbyists
21 Punahou grade school records
22 Noelani Kindergarten records are oddly missing from the the State of Hawaii Department of Education.
23 Page 11 of Stanley Ann Dunham’s divorce decree.
24 Why did Barack Obama resign from the Illinois bar and where are all of the relevant documents?
25 Why did Michelle Obama resign from the Illinois bar after only about four years of practice and where are all of the relevant documents?

[Compare this with someone’s background check to visit the White House or to work in a missile plant.]


Conclusion — there are many good reasons why 60% of the U.S. now questions his birth status. Shame on anyone who speaks out against us “birthers” without doing a little research. What name to they deserve? We’ve been at this a long time and know what the heck we are talking about.


186 posted on 09/21/2010 7:10:14 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Don't forget Sharron Angle v Reid. It is close. She is excellent. And up yours, McCain!)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Thanks.


187 posted on 09/21/2010 7:53:20 AM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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US State Dept Confirms: Obama “NOT” a US Citizen Prior to & in 1968
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2595632/posts

Hawaii Dems button-lipped on Obama eligibility status
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=207197
Doc missing statement candidate ‘qualified’ under U.S. Constitution

Landmark summary explains eligibility issue clearly
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=197557


188 posted on 09/26/2010 10:20:21 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Don't forget Sharron Angle v Reid. It is close. She is excellent. And up yours, McCain!)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Bookmark ping


189 posted on 09/27/2010 7:04:44 AM PDT by Danae (Analnathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do che'l de'nmha.)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2599850/posts?page=66#66

butterdezillion:

“Seems to me as if the logical reason might be that [Cheney] DIDN’T go along with the certification of the electoral vote. He didn’t make a stink about it to actually stop people from saying that the certification had happened, but he did enough to ensure that the certification did not legally happen. The legal requirements were not met.”


190 posted on 10/02/2010 10:15:57 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Economic reform without education reform and originalism is a penny in the fuse box.)
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To: Danae

Military Veterans Unify - placing Obama Eligibility on Front Burner
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2601021/posts
“Thousands of fellow Military Veterans unified in Lakin’s defense. - placing 0bama Eligibility on Front Burner.”
[Problem easily solved: make the frigging document public!]


191 posted on 10/04/2010 6:53:56 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Economic reform without education reform and originalism is a penny in the fuse box.)
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Red Steel presents documentation reg. the possible crime committed by Pelosi regarding Hawaaii certification
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2608468/posts?page=117#117
“The Hawaiian DNC state party left out for Obama’s certification that he is qualified under the US Constitution...”
[He goes on to compare that with the certification of both Kerry and Gore.]


192 posted on 10/17/2010 12:28:34 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Economic reform without education reform and originalism is a penny in the fuse box.)
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To: humblegunner

I’ve run into these strategery questions numerous times:

“What are you trying to achieve?” People who ask that question never seem willing to hear a correct answer. But OK, I’ll try once again.

Truth has its rewards. For example, it sets you free. “But how in this case?” That’s always the question.

Limited government requires mistrust of government. That’s the most basic answer.

For example, the emperor who has no clothes. If someone doesn’t point out his nakedness, it doesn’t matter, does it? If people realize he’s naked, that does something to their belief systems. It doesn’t matter if every judge in the land insist he has clothes. That’s not the only purpose of truth.

Overall strategy on muckraking in general:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2457300/posts?page=3#3


193 posted on 12/02/2010 4:33:02 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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To: All
By 2012, I hope about 20 states have passed a "show us the long form or your not on the ballot" law. Time to start emailing your state representatives, especially in January before their new sessions.

Email your state legislators Here. Template ideas Here.

Copy of Texas House Bill 295 Here. Arizona House Bill 2441 Here.

Go for it. Pass it on to your State Legislators! A FReeper surge!

194 posted on 12/04/2010 4:23:17 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Art in Idaho

New poll out after Obama’s abstract of his alleged BC ....

Gallup Poll: Only 47% Definitely Believe Obama AKA Soetoro Was Born In The United States...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2719901/posts

Skewed question:
“Gallup determined 10 percent of Republicans say Obama definitely was born elsewhere”

[Even I can’t say with certainty he wasn’t born in the US — I have no idea.]

Doesn’t mention “natural born” qualification, nor does it ask if he was naturalized into Indonesia.

Gallup also has funky sampling methods. Despite that, less than half are certain he was born in the US.

And frankly, I hope the rats are dumb enough to renominate him.


195 posted on 05/15/2011 9:32:28 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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To: Elendur

[Reposting your questions here; they make me curious too.]

[quote]

[I] am not a techie... i don’t understand adobe, or layers,
so i make no claims there, either way.

but, i do have several things i am honestly curious about.
the photocopy curve mentioned above, is legitimate and expected. but, why do some words seem to curve less than others?
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=186343

how can signatures be in different resolutions on the same document, unless one of them was pasted on? ml/nj has it here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2720608/posts?page=23#23

and boxes that are identical down to the pixel? :
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/05/irrefutable-proof-obamas-new-birth.html

why do other documents show the security paper background as they are supposed to, but this one LFBC doesn’t?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2722377/posts?page=259#259

why does Hawaii list a birth for Virginia Sunahara in their index, and then claim they have no record of her?
http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2011/05/19/hdoh-funny-business-regarding-virginia-sunahara/

[unquote]


196 posted on 05/21/2011 1:35:56 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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Corsi’s Book, “Where’s the Birth Certificate”, Taking off Despite Obama’s Preemption
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=300845
“The publicity, intended to be negative, had the reverse effect at Amazon. The book rocketed into the evening last night and today was at No. 12 overall, and No. 1 in categories for books on constitutional law, government and professional and technical... Media, including the Associated Press, typically call the book’s claims “unsubstantiated” or “debunked,” usually without evidence.” [Goes on to dissect leftist assaults on the book that hurt Kerry: “Unfit for Command”.]

[further down]

Since the document’s late-April release, a flood of expert analyses, some by Obama voters, has cast serious doubt on the legitimacy of the president’s belatedly produced “birth certificate.”
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=296881

Among topics dealt with in “Where’s the Birth Certificate?”:

• The mainstream media feverishly investigated the presidential eligibility story – that is, when it focused on Obama’s Republican opponent, John McCain.

• Obama was born a dual citizen of the United Kingdom and the United States, a circumstance the Constitution’s framers considered an iron-clad roadblock to the presidency. The book documents the clear, original intent of the Constitution’s founders, which was that no one with dual loyalties would ever be president and commander in chief.

• As a boy, Obama was officially registered in school as a Muslim and Indonesian citizen, another barrier to U.S. natural-born citizenship.

• The press and blogosphere widely reported Obama was born at Queen’s Medical Center in Honolulu – before deciding he was born across town at Kapi’olani Women’s and Children’s Hospital. To this day, Kapi’olani is bizarrely secretive about Obama’s alleged birth there.

• The Congressional Research Service, a public policy arm of Congress, officially admits no one in the government ever vetted Obama’s constitutional eligibility.

• In preparation for the 2012 election, more than a dozen states are considering legislation to force all presidential candidates to prove they are constitutionally qualified before they can be placed on that state’s ballot

• Going far beyond the issue of birth certificates, Corsi not only documents inconsistencies, blackouts and outright fabrications in Obama’s life narrative that have generated widespread doubts, but lays out a compelling body of evidence that Obama is not a natural-born citizen as is required of all presidents by Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution.

One of the biggest disputes that remains unaddressed is why Barack Obama, who lived in Hawaii as a teen, has a Social Security number that indicates he had a Connecticut address.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=287253

The controversy over Obama’s Social Security number traces back to a WND story May 11, 2010, when it was reported that two private investigators working independently were asking why Obama was using a number set aside for applicants in Connecticut while there is no record he ever had a mailing address in the state.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=287253

The records indicate the number was issued between 1977 and 1979, when Obama was between 16 and 18 years old and living in Hawaii.

The Social Security website confirms that the first three digits in Obama’s Social Security number are reserved for applicants with Connecticut addresses, 040-049.

Since 1973, Social Security numbers have been issued by one central office, and the first three digits of a person’s Social Security number have been determined by the Zip code of the mailing address on the application.


197 posted on 05/21/2011 1:37:09 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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To: All

To clear the record.

[Not so clear that this was good reporting by WND ...]
Justice Clarence Thomas: We’re ‘evading’ eligibility
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=142101

Here is the counter point [a joke taken out of context, nothing to do with BO]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2731448/posts?page=555#555

[I don’t load sound or video files, so I’m not able to detect certain aspects of dialogue, such as humor. Nor am I specialized enough to know about “running jokes” in the supreme Court.]


198 posted on 06/11/2011 7:40:51 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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Why is Obama’s name different on passport? Doesn’t match birth records released
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2730343/posts


199 posted on 06/11/2011 7:41:34 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Right on.

Great research.

I actually disbelieve he was born in Kenya. It doesn’t fit Occam’s Razor. An underaged white American girl in 1961 who gets knocked up by her married classmate isn’t going to Kenya to have a baby. Typical white grandma wouldn’t have even allowed her pregnant underaged daughter to do such a thing. Nor would Stanley Ann have wanted to.

She had just barely finished high school, and probably ALL her friends were still in Seattle. Pregnant teens there usually went across the border to one of the two unwed mom homes in Vancouver and gave the baby up for adoption. Especially since she knew her baby would be of a different race, which was scandalous to middle America back then. But she was already quite communist influenced so she might have felt different. Yet that probably was the plan, according to TWG. Then Stanley had him, and decided to keep him.

This fits the timeline, as infant Barack was seen with his mom there in Seattle, with her not knowing how to care for him, even to change a diaper. And Stanley was enrolled there in college.

Barack has always WISHED he were born in Kenya, and if he were to be found out as a non citizen, he hopes it would go the exotic African way. He doesn’t like the white knocked up mom part of his history.


200 posted on 10/03/2014 7:36:02 AM PDT by Yaelle
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