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Strange Carvings Discovered In Amazon Jungle Using Google Earth
http://www.treasurehuntingnews.com/archaeology/strange-carvings-discovered-in-amazon-jungle-using-go | January 2, 2010 | in Archaeology, Research

Posted on 06/16/2010 3:39:07 AM PDT by Fred Nerks

Signs of what could be a previously unknown ancient civilisation are emerging from beneath the felled trees of the Amazon. Some 260 giant avenues, ditches and enclosures have been spotted from the air in a region straddling Brazil’s border with Bolivia.

The traditional view is that before the arrival of the Spanish and Portuguese in the 15th century there were no complex societies in the Amazon basin – in contrast to the Andes further west where the Incas built their cities. Now deforestation, increased air travel and google Earth are telling a different story.

“It’s never-ending,” says Denise Schaan of the Federal University of Pará in Belém, Brazil, who made many of the new discoveries from planes or by examining Google Earth images.

“Every week we find new structures.” Some of them are square or rectangular, while others form concentric circles or complex geometric figures such as hexagons and octagons connected by avenues or roads. The researchers describe them all as geoglyphs. Garden villages

Their discovery, in an area of northern Bolivia and western Brazil, follows other recent reports of vast sprawls of interconnected villages known as “garden cities” in north central Brazil, dating from around AD 1400. But the structures unearthed at the garden city sites are not as consistently similar or geometric as the geoglyphs, Schaan says.

“I firmly believe that the garden cities of Xingu and the geoglyphs were not directly related,” says Martti Pärssinen of the Finnish Cultural and Academic Institutes in Madrid, Spain, who works with Schaan. “Nevertheless, both discoveries demonstrate that [upland] areas of western Amazonia were heavily populated much before the European incursion.”

The geoglyphs are formed by ditches up to 11 metres wide and 1 to 2 metres deep. They range from 90 to 300 metres in diameter and are thought to date from around 2000 years ago up to the 13th century.

Human habitation

Excavations have unearthed ceramics, grinding stones and other signs of human habitation at some of the sites but not at others. This suggests that some had purely ceremonial roles, while others may also have been used for defence.

Unusually for defensive structures, however, earth was piled up outside the ditches, and they are also highly symmetrical. “When you think about defence you’re just building a wall or a trench,” says Schaan.

“You don’t have to do calculations to make it so round or square.” Many of the structures are oriented to the north, and the team is investigating whether they might have had astronomical significance.

“Many of the great early civilisations had a riverine basis and the Amazon has long been underestimated and overlooked in that sense,” says Colin McEwan, head of the Americas section at the British Museum in London.

Successful societies

Though there is no evidence that the Amazonians built pyramids or invented written language as societies in ancient Egypt or Mesopotamia did, “in terms of a trend towards increasing social complexity and domestication of the landscape, this wasn’t just a pristine forest with isolated nomadic tribes”, McEwan adds. “These were substantive, sedentary and in the long term very successful cultures.”

While some Inca sites lie just 200 kilometres west of the geoglyphs, no Inca objects have been found at the new sites. Neither do they seem to have anything in common with Peru’s Nasca geoglyphs.

“I have no doubt that this is only scratching the surface,” says Alex Chepstow-Lusty of the French Institute for Andean Studies in Lima, Peru. “The scale of pre-Columbian societies in Amazonia is only slowly coming to light and we are going to be amazed at the numbers of people who lived there, but also in a highly sustainable fashion.

Sadly, the economic development and forest clearance that is revealing these pre-Columbian settlement patterns is also the threat to having enough time to properly understand them.”


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: agriculture; amazon; animalhusbandry; archaeoastronomy; bolivia; brazil; butchandsundance; geoglyphs; godsgravesglyphs; jpb; megaliths; missinglink
The geoglyphs are formed by ditches up to 11 metres wide and 1 to 2 metres deep. They range from 90 to 300 metres in diameter and are thought to date from around 2000 years ago up to the 13th century.
1 posted on 06/16/2010 3:39:07 AM PDT by Fred Nerks
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To: SunkenCiv

ping a ling :)


2 posted on 06/16/2010 3:41:06 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Blessed Is The Nation Whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)
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To: Fred Nerks

Why do they assume they are “glyphs,” which assumes some communication purpose, and not just irrigation trenches of some sort for what used to be an agricultural area?


3 posted on 06/16/2010 3:41:36 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

Probably some ceremonial thing like the mounds and carvings all over America.


4 posted on 06/16/2010 3:47:01 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

“Lost” Amazon Complex Found; Shapes Seen by Satellite
nationalgeographic ^ | January 4, 2010 | John Roach

Posted on Monday, January 11, 2010 5:10:20 AM by JoeProBono

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2425232/posts


5 posted on 06/16/2010 3:47:34 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: cripplecreek

Santa Teresinha, Brazil

6 posted on 06/16/2010 3:52:13 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
Martti Pärssinen of the Finnish Cultural and Academic Institutes in Madrid, Spain,

"Martti got kicked out of Finland for saying blond women should dye their hair a deep brown so they can keep their heads warmer in the winter

7 posted on 06/16/2010 3:52:59 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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To: Fred Nerks

I saw something about this a while back and tried to google earth it.

Didn’t find anything but, it is very interesting.


8 posted on 06/16/2010 3:55:01 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Fred Nerks
But, would the presence of such “glyphs” be evidence that the rain forest has NOT always been there?
9 posted on 06/16/2010 4:00:41 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
Earthmovers of the Amazon by Charles C. Mann

Are the mounds, causeways, and canals in Bolivia’s Beni region natural formations or the result of 2000 years’ labor by lost societies?

10 posted on 06/16/2010 4:06:54 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks
Further refinement using advanced methods shows this hidden feature.

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11 posted on 06/16/2010 4:12:05 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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To: An.American.Expatriate
But, would the presence of such “glyphs” be evidence that the rain forest has NOT always been there?

Many 'lost' cities are being discovered both by aircraft and Google, completely overgrown...

12 posted on 06/16/2010 4:12:18 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Go away wicked witch! Stop haunting us!


13 posted on 06/16/2010 4:15:14 AM PDT by NellieMae (Here......common sense,common sense,common sense,where'd ya go... common sense......)
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To: Fred Nerks

I bet it is an animal pen.


14 posted on 06/16/2010 4:17:17 AM PDT by RaceBannon (RON PAUL: THE PARTY OF TRUTHERS, TRAITORS AND UFO CHASERS!!!)
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To: Vendome

Some of the 260 ancient earthworks located in the Amazon basin by archeologist Denise Schaan and her colleagues, which are challenging traditional assumptions about the region's history. (Courtesy of Denise Schaan)

SOURCE

15 posted on 06/16/2010 4:18:33 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: RaceBannon

http://www.atlantisbolivia.org/geoforms.htm

Let’s call them geoforms...


16 posted on 06/16/2010 4:22:59 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: cripplecreek
Probably some ceremonial thing like the mounds and carvings all over America.

Hard to drive more than a mile in my neck of the woods without seeing a mound. There's one stretch of road nearby where you can see seven mounds from one spot. A friend of mine I used to hunt arrowheads with who is now an Archeologist is working a dig site over in Chattanooga valley, over near the new VW plant. It was discovered by some construction excavation about a year and a half ago. It's apparently a burial site of chiefs or other high ranking tribe members from the woodland era. I'm told it's one of the richest finds ever in Tennessee. Lots of pristine ceremonial spears, talismans, etc.

17 posted on 06/16/2010 4:44:20 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Stop the insanity - Flush Congress!)
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To: Fred Nerks
Treasure Hunting News
18 posted on 06/16/2010 5:33:34 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: JoeProBono

PING


19 posted on 06/16/2010 10:14:46 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Throw the bums out in 2010.)
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To: Fred Nerks

Or somebody with a riding mower.


20 posted on 06/16/2010 10:16:15 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: a fool in paradise

21 posted on 06/16/2010 10:24:15 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: Fred Nerks

Thanks!


22 posted on 06/16/2010 11:35:25 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

roflmao!


23 posted on 06/16/2010 12:45:34 PM PDT by Republic
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24 posted on 06/16/2010 6:08:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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@#$%^&*!
25 posted on 06/16/2010 6:10:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: Fred Nerks
I'm confused. In what way were the strange carvings able to use Google Earth?

(p.s. Relax. J/K)

26 posted on 06/16/2010 6:18:32 PM PDT by Robwin
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To: Fred Nerks

The first one looks like Radical Edward’s mark.


27 posted on 06/16/2010 6:25:28 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Veyiqchu 'eleykha farah 'adummah temimah 'asher 'ein-bah mum, 'asher lo'-`alah `aleyha `ol.)
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To: Fred Nerks

anyone interested in crop-marks in this context might want to check out Prehistoric Britain from the Air (there are 2 such books, you want the black and white one with crop mark pictures, not the one with color pictures of prominent landmarks), great stuff from roman and earlier time.


28 posted on 06/16/2010 6:42:51 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

explains why their civilization failed


29 posted on 06/16/2010 6:56:15 PM PDT by bigheadfred (I said free association. Not freely associate.)
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To: Fred Nerks
"...are thought to date from around 2000 years ago up to the 13th century"

"While some Inca sites lie just 200 kilometres west of the geoglyphs, no Inca objects have been found at the new sites."

Maybe that's because the Inca civilization didn't start until the 13th century.

30 posted on 06/16/2010 7:09:09 PM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Evil. Just plain evil.


31 posted on 06/16/2010 7:17:04 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 510 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Fred Nerks

Aaaa-ta!


32 posted on 06/16/2010 10:05:59 PM PDT by Trillian
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To: Fred Nerks

Percy Fawcett,explorer, in 1925 looked for what he called the lost city of ‘Z’ in the Amazon forest.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percy_Fawcett


33 posted on 06/17/2010 6:12:26 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Beowulf9
There is a movie about Percy "in development," possibly starring Brad Pitt. Supposedly, Percy was a model for Indiana Jones.

http://www.collider.com/entertainment/interviews/article.asp?aid=10842&tcid=1

34 posted on 06/17/2010 12:50:42 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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35 posted on 07/07/2013 8:08:59 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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