Skip to comments.Greece. They found the palace belonging to one of the Heroes of the Iliad? [Egyptian artifact, 2006]
Posted on 07/30/2010 3:23:35 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
Foto: (1) The central palace complex from a 3,200-year-old settlement on the island of Salamis, near Athens, Greece, is shown in an undated handout picture provided by excavator Yiannis Lolos. Lolos said on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 that he believes he has found the seat of the mythical King Ajax of Salamis, one of the heroes of the Trojan War. The hilltop site overlooks a small natural harbor. (AP Photo) (2) Hieroglyphs spelling the name of Egyptian Pharaoh Ramses II appear at the bottom of a bronze piece from an ancient mail shirt, in this undated handout picture provided by archaeologist Yiannis Lolos. The find came from a 3,200-year-old palace on the island of Salamis, near Athens, Greece, which belonged to the mythical King Ajax, Lolos said on Wednesday, March 29, 2006. The hilltop site overlooks a small natural harbor.
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They are jumping to conclusions. Maybe it wasn’t Aias/Ajax’s house but his father Telamon’s.
Beautiful location for a palace.
...Hieroglyphs spelling the name of Egyptian Pharaoh Ramses II appear at the bottom of a bronze piece from an ancient mail shirt...
...and with the chronology of Egypt based on nothing more than the king-list of Manetho (before hieroglyphs were understood) there's an 800 year discrepancy in any dating based on Egyptian chronolgy...as I understand it.
If I remember the Iliad correctly, Homer portrays Ajax as possibly the best of all the warriors including Achilles and Hector. He ends up committing suicide.
Probably spotted the Comet, or maybe Bon Ami and Barkeeper’s Friend were eating into sales, and he couldn’t deal with it. ;’)
This location may not be correct either. :’) But yeah, the pseudochronology carries a big burden of proof, and is always found wanting. The historicity of the Trojan War has been doubted (in part) because of the reliance on the pseudochronology, and this has largely been due to what passes for scholarship in the UK (beginning in earnest with Arthur Evans). The clear and obvious references to events and people related to the Trojan War of legend were found in cuneiform tablets translated by Emil Forrer and only in the past twenty years have these begun to gain traction. :’)
...It appears, however, that in the Iliad Homer telescoped into a few weeks events that took place in the space of several decades. At least some of the events may be placed in a chronological order with the help of ancient Israelite sources: namely, on the day when King Ahaz was interred the motion of the Earth was disturbed so that the Sun set before its appointed time; ...In Greek legendary tradition the first event took place in the days of the two brothers, Atreus and Thyestes, contesting the throne of Mycenae... The fixing of the event to the early spring of -687 is made on the strength of the information from Hebrew sources that the event took place on the night of Passover, during the second campaign of Sennacherib against Judah, the ninth campaign of his reign. The exact date for the last of this series of catastrophes is provided by the records of the astronomical observations of the Chinese... in the year -687, on the 23rd of March... Romulus was a contemporary of Hezekiah; and the 23rd of March was the most important day in the Roman cult of Mars... The siege of Troy under Agamemnon followed by less than one generation the natural disturbances of the days of his father Atreus, when this king of Mycenae competed with his brother Thyestes for the crown of the realm and the Sun was disrupted in its motion. Atreus and Thyestes, being contemporaries of Ahaz and Hezekiah, and Agamemnon, son of Atreus, a contemporary of the latter king of Jerusalem, it seems that the time in which the drama of the Iliad was set was the second half of the eighth century, and not later than -687; yet the poet condensed the events separated by decades into the tenth year of the Trojan siege, the time of the Iliad's action. Thus we come to realize that it was a rather late time; clearly Homer could not have lived before the events he described; and therefore Homer's time cannot be any earlier than the end of the eighth century. But more probably he wrote several decades after the Trojan War...
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