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The Birth of Bureaucracy (Where Long Lines, Red Tape & Arcane Rules Began; 1650 to 1100 B.C.)
Archaeology ^ | July/August 2012 | Amanda Summer

Posted on 06/13/2012 7:32:01 PM PDT by DogByte6RER

The Birth of Bureaucracy

At the site of Iklaina, excavations are revealing new evidence of how the Mycenaean state functioned -

Pylos, in Greece’s southwestern Peloponnese, is known for its miles of soft sandy beaches, rocky islets soaring out of the water marking the edges of the Bay of Navarino, and the mountains that cut it off from the rest of Greece.

The surrounding region, known as Messenia, is also home to dozens of archaeological sites. Since the nineteenth century, Messenia has attracted archaeologists hoping to uncover remains of Greece’s Mycenaean age, the period from approximately 1650 to 1100 B.C., famous for such mythical sagas as the Trojan War. Among them have been Heinrich Schliemann, who came from Germany to search the area in vain to locate a royal settlement, and American Carl Blegen, who excavated the Palace of Nestor in Pylos in 1939.

Fifteen years later, in 1954, Blegen’s colleague, Greek archaeologist Spyridon Marinatos, went hiking in the hills above Pylos. There, near the small modern town of Iklaina, he came upon the remains of a structure with massive walls, surrounded by large deposits of pottery. The Iklaina site was overgrown with olive groves and the terrain was difficult to traverse, but a brief trial excavation suggested the existence of an important site. However, other work beckoned Marinatos and it would remain buried for decades.

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An aerial view of the site of Iklaina near Pylos, Greece.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Education; History; Miscellaneous; Reference; Society
KEYWORDS: ancientgreece; archaeology; bc; bronzeage; bureaucracy; excavation; godsgravesglyphs; greece; griffinwarrior; iklaina; messenia; mycenaeans; mycenaeanstate; pylos; tholos
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1 posted on 06/13/2012 7:32:18 PM PDT by DogByte6RER
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG ping.


2 posted on 06/13/2012 7:45:50 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Tories in- now the REAL work begins!)
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A Mycenaean funeral mask identified as the "Mask of Agamemnon" by Heinrich Schliemann A Mycenaean funeral mask identified as the "Mask of Agamemnon" by Heinrich Schliemann Fresco: the "Lady of Mycenae" accepts a gift of a necklace. Fresco: the "Lady of Mycenae" accepts a gift of a necklace.
3 posted on 06/13/2012 7:52:12 PM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER

Reminds me of a very disturbing movie that I should watch again - Brazil- anyone ever heard of it?


4 posted on 06/13/2012 7:59:19 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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http://www.esemag.com/archive/0305/drainage.html
http://glas-excavations.org/about.html
http://athang1504.blogspot.com/2011/01/gla.html


5 posted on 06/13/2012 8:03:43 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Squawk 8888; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks Squawk 8888 for the ping. The rise of recordkeeping seems to have filled a need for property and production management systems, judicial systems for settling disputes, and diplomacy and political continuity. The site of Gla, well, it's worth looking up -- apparently a settlement ruled by Orchomenos, it was a fortess constructed on a promontory that had been an island. The reason it had stopped being an island? A river was diverted, and the large lake drained, in order to create more farmland. Naturally some invading force breached the dam during a war.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


6 posted on 06/13/2012 8:04:23 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Sioux-san

That movie was brilliant. It was written and directed by Terry Gilliam (the demented American animator of Monty Python).


7 posted on 06/13/2012 8:10:29 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Tories in- now the REAL work begins!)
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To: Squawk 8888

I loved DeNiro’s scenes where he said “the paperwork’ll kill you” and it finally did him in literally.


8 posted on 06/13/2012 8:15:26 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: Squawk 8888

I didn’t realize that Gilliam was American. Yes, he is demented, but we love him so.


9 posted on 06/13/2012 8:17:15 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: Sioux-san

My favourite line was when he told the girl that he faked her death- “Care for a little necrophilia?”


10 posted on 06/13/2012 8:34:19 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Tories in- now the REAL work begins!)
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To: Sioux-san

Of course! One of the best Terry Gilliam films, and that’s saying a lot because most of them are excellent.

If you like his style, I’d recommend Time Bandits, The Adventures of Baron Munchausen, Twelve Monkeys, and the Fisher King. Those are my favorites of his, besides Brazil.


11 posted on 06/13/2012 9:12:15 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Sioux-san; Squawk 8888; Boogieman
It is a brilliant film. Timeless in its scope. Gilliam at his best. :)

He held dual citizenship for decades [married a Brit] and renounced his U.S. citizenship.

12 posted on 06/13/2012 11:53:02 PM PDT by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: DogByte6RER

Has it ever been determined that the Mask of Agamemnon is a hoax by Schliemann?

I remember viewing it at National Archaeological Museum in Athens, along with the remarkable Cup of Nestor. Good stuff!


13 posted on 06/14/2012 12:00:59 AM PDT by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Daffynition; DogByte6RER

That’s exactly how Agamemnon looks in contemporary photos. Schliemann wasn’t looking for fame or anything, just a normal and natural truth-seeker like the rest of us.


14 posted on 06/14/2012 2:34:04 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
Indeed.


15 posted on 06/14/2012 4:53:36 AM PDT by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Daffynition

So, then, palm-face has a long and proud history, I see.


16 posted on 06/14/2012 2:43:28 PM PDT by jimtorr
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To: Daffynition

I always wanted to find one of those “Executive Desk Accessories” like they have in the film, but I’m sure it’s a custom prop that nobody is selling.


17 posted on 06/14/2012 3:09:38 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: DogByte6RER
yes, Linear b is mainly for bureaucratic records, but one could argue that Bureaucracy was invented a millennium earlier, in 3200 BC, in early Mesopotamia.link
18 posted on 06/14/2012 6:42:05 PM PDT by LadyDoc
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There's a new article about Iklaina that purports to reveal new discoveries. It's apparent that there's no one new thing in the whole article, but it makes a nice pretext for an updated ping message and such.
and from the FRchives:

19 posted on 01/18/2018 5:03:39 PM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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