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Scientists: Glass dish unearthed in Nara came from Roman Empire
The Asahi Shimbun ^ | November 13, 2014 | Kazuto Tsukamoto

Posted on 11/15/2014 4:26:09 PM PST by SunkenCiv

-A glass dish unearthed from a burial mound here is the first of its kind confirmed to have come to Japan from the Roman Empire, a research team said...

The dish and bowl were retrieved together from the No. 126 tumulus of the Niizawa Senzuka cluster of ancient graves, a national historic site. The No. 126 tumulus dates back to the late fifth century...

According to the team’s analysis, the chemical composition of the clear dark blue dish is almost identical to glasswork unearthed in the area of the Roman Empire (27 B.C.-A.D. 395).

Measuring 14.1 to 14.5 centimeters in diameter, the flat, raised dish is believed to have been created in the second century at the latest...

The chemical compositions of natron, a type of sodium mineral, as well as sand made of silica and lime, resemble those typically found in Mediterranean glasswork produced in the Roman Empire and the following Eastern Roman Empire period.

The team also conducted a fluorescence X-ray test on the dish using a high-energy radiation beam at the Spring 8 large synchrotron radiation facility in Sayo, Hyogo Prefecture. The test revealed antimony, a metallic element believed to be used in Rome until the second century.

...the chemical composition of the cut glass bowl is the same as that of glass fragments unearthed from the remains of a palace in the ancient Persian capital of Ctesiphon. The bowl is 8 cm in diameter, 7 cm tall and narrower in the upper part.

(Excerpt) Read more at ajw.asahi.com ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: ancientnavigation; glass; godsgravesglyphs; japan; nara; romanempire
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Scientists determined that this glass dish found in Japan came from ancient Rome. (Provided by the Tokyo National Museum)

Scientists determined that this glass dish found in Japan came from ancient Rome. (Provided by the Tokyo National Museum)

1 posted on 11/15/2014 4:26:09 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 11/15/2014 4:26:56 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Celebrate the Polls, Ignore the Trolls)
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To: SunkenCiv

Where is Nara?


3 posted on 11/15/2014 4:28:18 PM PST by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!",)
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To: SunkenCiv

I once went to the Glass Museum in Corning, NY.

I recommend non-suicidal people stay away from it. I almost died from boredom.


4 posted on 11/15/2014 4:29:06 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Measure with a micrometer, mark with chalk, cut with an axe)
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To: Hugin

About 75 miles north of Tokyo.


5 posted on 11/15/2014 4:29:53 PM PST by skeeter
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To: skeeter

We know the Romans had trade with Vietnam (or at least, a large horde of their coins was found there). Either they—or intermediary merchants—apparently also transported their goods as far as Japan.

(The “Global Economy” is just a fancy term for what has always existed, imho.)


6 posted on 11/15/2014 4:32:59 PM PST by CondorFlight (I)
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To: Hugin

Never mind - I’m thinking of Nakka. Nara is down near Osaka.


7 posted on 11/15/2014 4:33:11 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Hugin

It’s about 30 miles south of Kyoto and 30 miles east of Osaka - it’s known for being the first real area of concentrated Japanese culture. The leader during that era, Shotoku Taishi @600AD instituted many reforms that lead Japan into the later Heian era in Kyoto. If the plate is from the Romans, it was probably brought from the Chinese or Koreans. The Japanese worked intensely during that period to import technology, especially metallurgy.


8 posted on 11/15/2014 4:33:17 PM PST by struggle
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To: SunkenCiv

Wow!

Would love to know the story of how it got there, the people who owned it and how it came to be preserved.


9 posted on 11/15/2014 4:58:00 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: freedumb2003

My Dad took us there when I was in 6th grade or so. I still remember him demonstrating the optical interferometer to me which measured microscopic deformations of the surface. We also saw the extra blank for the 200 inch Palomar Observatory telescope mirror. One of many things he did to get me interested in science, technology, and engineering. Too bad you don’t enjoy such wonders—lots of us do.


10 posted on 11/15/2014 5:02:57 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: skeeter; SunkenCiv
About 75 miles north of Tokyo.

No, it's about 20 miles east of Osaka and 30 miles south of Kyoto; it was the first capital of imperial Japan, to be succeeded by Kyoto.

11 posted on 11/15/2014 5:04:44 PM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: BenLurkin
Would love to know the story of how it got there

The most obvious answer would be via the Silk Road; there was a spur from the east end of the Silk Road in Xian that went through Manchuria and the Korean peninsula to Japan, ending in Nara.

12 posted on 11/15/2014 5:06:18 PM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: chajin

Quite so, but I mean the particulars of its journey, the lives of the people involved, etc.

Something like a Michener novel.


13 posted on 11/15/2014 5:07:59 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: chajin

Thanks chajin.


14 posted on 11/15/2014 5:13:47 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Celebrate the Polls, Ignore the Trolls)
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To: chajin

There was also a lot of seaborne trade. Some of it apparently got as far as Japan, through multiple intermediaries, no doubt.


15 posted on 11/15/2014 5:17:46 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: BenLurkin
Quite so, but I mean the particulars of its journey, the lives of the people involved, etc.

That would indeed be interesting.

16 posted on 11/15/2014 5:20:26 PM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: Sherman Logan
There was also a lot of seaborne trade. Some of it apparently got as far as Japan, through multiple intermediaries, no doubt.

The Romans had connections with ships from Aqaba that went to India for (black) pepper, so it's possible, but it would have gone through many hands as you suggest; it would be easier to simply have one trader take it all the way to Xian, and another from there to Nara.

What interests me is how similar in style and shape this is to Song dynasty wide-and-flat bowls, which eventually become the basis for hirajawan used for drinking tea in Japan in the summer.

17 posted on 11/15/2014 5:24:43 PM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: BenLurkin

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18 posted on 11/15/2014 5:24:51 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Celebrate the Polls, Ignore the Trolls)
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To: freedumb2003

Really, that’s a big favorite, great collection of ancient glass, and the layout of the museum should inform museum construction everywhere.


19 posted on 11/15/2014 5:26:34 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Celebrate the Polls, Ignore the Trolls)
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To: SunkenCiv; ProtectOurFreedom

I am glad you guys enjoyed it.

I didn’t see wonders, just — old glass.

Maybe I just wasn’t in the right mood that day.

:)


20 posted on 11/15/2014 5:28:30 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Measure with a micrometer, mark with chalk, cut with an axe)
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