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Wanted: 'Adventurous woman' to give birth to Neanderthal man-professor seeks mother for cloned baby
The London Daily Mail ^ | January 20, 2013 | Allan Hall and Fiona Macrae

Posted on 01/20/2013 9:06:48 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

They're usually thought of as a brutish, primitive species.

So what woman would want to give birth to a Neanderthal baby?

Yet this incredible scenario is the plan of one of the world’s leading geneticists, who is seeking a volunteer to help bring man’s long-extinct close relative back to life.

Professor George Church of Harvard Medical School believes he can reconstruct Neanderthal DNA and resurrect the species which became extinct 33,000 years ago.

His scheme is reminiscent of Jurassic Park but, while in the film dinosaurs were created in a laboratory, Professor Church’s ambitious plan requires a human volunteer.

He said his analysis of Neanderthal genetic code using samples from bones is complete enough to reconstruct their DNA.

He said: ‘Now I need an adventurous female human.

‘It depends on a hell of a lot of things, but I think it can be done.’

Professor Church’s plan would begin by artificially creating Neanderthal DNA based on genetic code found in fossil remains. He would put this DNA into stem cells.

These would be injected into cells from a human embryo in the early stages of life.

It is thought that the stem cells would steer the development of the hybrid embryo on Neanderthal lines, rather than human ones...

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Religion; Science
KEYWORDS: cloning; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; neandertal; neandertals; neanderthal; neanderthals
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To: jsanders2001

No, I’m talking abour really smart.

Suppose that we brought Neanderthals back to life, and the reason they went extinct wasn’t because they were dumber. Suppose they were more intelligent than modern humans, and just happened to have a run of bad luck that wiped them out before they could develop technology.

Suppose that Neanderthals turned out to be genetically intelligent enough that when brought back and put into a modern world with modern education they absorbed everything we could give them, made straight A’s and advanced into our universities by age 14. Suppose they had eidetic memories and could typically grasp physics, chemistry and so forth pretty easily.

Imagine a world in which modern humans are outclassed by a different variety of human being.


41 posted on 01/21/2013 2:48:14 AM PST by Jeff Winston
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To: Jeff Winston

Bigger issue: will the neanderthal be classified as human? How about a genetic construct with 10% chump DNA? 20%? 90%?


42 posted on 01/21/2013 3:16:58 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize - Voltaire)
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To: SauronOfMordor

Well, they seem to have made tools and jewelry, and probably had language, so that sounds pretty human to me.

It seems we may have won out though because although they certainly had big enough brains, we were simply nerdier and more social and could probably talk more clearly:

http://news.discovery.com/history/archaeology/humans-neanderthals-120605.htm

So just like you’ve heard: Networking skills are important.


43 posted on 01/21/2013 3:27:32 AM PST by Jeff Winston
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To: SauronOfMordor

Oh - incidentally, if you have some European ancestry, like probably almost all Americans, then you’re probably part Neanderthal.


44 posted on 01/21/2013 3:29:29 AM PST by Jeff Winston
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To: JRandomFreeper
Given that modern humans kicked Neandertal @$$ and took names

Not individually.

Modern humans tend to hunt in packs.

45 posted on 01/21/2013 4:03:30 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: Sherman Logan
Leads one to question how exactly Europeans acquired Neandertal DNA, especially since my understanding is that it is all essentially in the female line.

How's this for an explanation? A woman would stay with her own tribe, so any Neanderthal-CroMagnon baby with Cro-M mother would be incorporated into a Cro-M tribe and bring in Neandertal DNA. If the father was Cro-M, then the baby would be incorporated into Neandertal tribe.

46 posted on 01/21/2013 4:22:36 AM PST by Marylander
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

47 posted on 01/21/2013 4:30:22 AM PST by mirkwood
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Somehow, the title brought to mind AlGore!

ManBearPig himself. :-)


48 posted on 01/21/2013 4:33:09 AM PST by meyer (When people fear the government, you have Tyranny)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It was only a matter of time before someone wanted to make a Frankenbaby.


49 posted on 01/21/2013 4:44:29 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Children, pets, and slaves get taken care of. Free Men take care of themselves.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“professor seeks mother for cloned baby”

I thought Ward Churchill was a professor of social justice, when did he move into genetics?


50 posted on 01/21/2013 4:46:47 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
well - from the article

based on genetic code found in fossil remains

fossils dont form in 33000 years -

51 posted on 01/21/2013 4:52:21 AM PST by Revelation 911 (hump scratching n'er do well.....all strung out on chicken wings and venison jerky)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

At the present stage of technology, I’d say it’s impossible.

Furthermore, the method described would not produce a Neanderthal, but a Homo sapiens/Neanderthal chimera (organism consisting of a mixture of H. sapiens and Neanderthal cells). It would probably be rather odd looking. For instance, the skin would probably have a mottled appearance, due to different color skin genes in the two cell lines. To get the Neanderthal baby, one would have to cross two chimeras, with a 1/4 chance of the baby being a Neanderthal. That’s because the germ cells would be a mixture of Homo sapiens and Neanderthal cells.

Even if it were possible, a project like this would take a couple of generations. I don’t know that any independent review board would give it their ethical blessing.


52 posted on 01/21/2013 4:56:15 AM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: SauronOfMordor
Bigger issue: will the neanderthal be classified as human? How about a genetic construct with 10% chump DNA? 20%? 90%?

Neanderthals *are* considered human. Any species with the "Homo" designation is human. We're the only human species alive, but we're not the only one that ever existed.

53 posted on 01/21/2013 5:01:47 AM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: Marylander
How's this for an explanation? A woman would stay with her own tribe, so any Neanderthal-CroMagnon baby with Cro-M mother would be incorporated into a Cro-M tribe and bring in Neandertal DNA. If the father was Cro-M, then the baby would be incorporated into Neandertal tribe.

Under that theory, there would be no evidence of Neandertal DNA in the mitochondria of Cro-M. It would all be in the 23 pairs of chromosomes. I think that is what has been found.

54 posted on 01/21/2013 5:13:17 AM PST by Marylander
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To: ebshumidors

BINGO! We have a winner!


55 posted on 01/21/2013 6:05:41 AM PST by baddog 219
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To: varmintman

Very interesting website. Thanks for the reference.


56 posted on 01/21/2013 6:11:24 AM PST by rusty millet
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To: EvilOverlord

cool! where did you read that?


57 posted on 01/21/2013 6:11:55 AM PST by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Do we really want to expand the liberal voter base?


58 posted on 01/21/2013 6:17:02 AM PST by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

59 posted on 01/21/2013 6:51:42 AM PST by Oratam
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

The Neanderthal was the apex predator of Ice-Age Europe. He was highly intelligent but he did not think like we do at all, his mind-set was more like that of an African lion. You wouldn’t want him or a neighbor...


60 posted on 01/21/2013 6:57:39 AM PST by varmintman
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