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Great Pyramid may still contain Khufu's intact pharaonic tomb
Daily Star (Lebanon) ^ | Thursday, July 14, 2005 | Kyle Cassidy

Posted on 07/13/2005 9:56:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

Both shafts terminate somewhere within the structure as there are no holes in the outside of the pyramid. In the past, scholars have speculated that because of their alignment with the North Star and constellation Orion, these shafts could be symbolic exits for King Khufu's ka, or soul. Many archaeologists today find this unlikely because these small openings are unique to this pyramid. At the time of Khufu's reign, false doors served as symbolic gateways to the afterlife. As to whether the shafts terminate in larger rooms or not are still anybody's guess.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: archaeology; ggg; giza; godsgravesglyphs; greatpyramid; history
Many thanks to Constitution Day for emailing the link. These mysterious doors are tiny; they are right out near the surface of the pyramid; they have absolutely nothing to do with anything of much importance. Zahi's just drummin' up business. Egypt can't pay for more flight lessons for its nationals and ammo for things like the Luxor massacre without those tourist dollars pouring in.

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1 posted on 07/13/2005 9:56:39 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 07/13/2005 9:58:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (last updated by FR profile on Tuesday, May 10, 2005.)
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To: SunkenCiv
"Egypt can't pay for more flight lessons for its nationals and ammo for things like the Luxor massacre without those tourist dollars pouring in. "

My sister was at the Luxor site the day before the massacre. She will never go back to Egypt. I was there in '61 and have just about lost interest in anything Egyptian.

Albeit, I think the government cracked down pretty hard after the Luxor incident.

3 posted on 07/13/2005 10:14:22 PM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

This would be too good to be true.


4 posted on 07/13/2005 10:20:50 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: blam

Yeah, I was far too j'accuse toward the Egyptian single party state. And the terrorists at Luxor got chased and some of them captured (one almost beaten to death, if memory serves) by angry Egyptians.

Of course, those Egyptians were angry because they make their money off tourism, not because dozens of German tourists were gunned down.


5 posted on 07/13/2005 10:21:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (last updated by FR profile on Tuesday, May 10, 2005.)
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To: Aetius

We should keep in mind that apparent unknown chambers were detected by a Japanese team, using some kind of low-invasion method, circa 1980. The team was kicked out and banned from the plateau.

I don't doubt that there's nothing left to be found, and that the burial chamber (which was open to ancient tourists for centuries, before being resealed) was looted long, long ago.


6 posted on 07/13/2005 10:23:37 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (last updated by FR profile on Tuesday, May 10, 2005.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Its just sort of depressing how much of the ancient world has been lost to looting, natural disasters, amd the type of fires that wiped out the Alexandrian library.


7 posted on 07/13/2005 10:27:55 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: SunkenCiv

The small shafts that go from the king's tomb to the outside are said to be sighting shafts for some kind of astronomical events. However, the shafts are not straight and there is no view to the outside through them.


8 posted on 07/13/2005 10:51:39 PM PDT by RightWhale (withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty)
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To: RightWhale

Someone went to an awful lot of trouble to seal those shafts. It might be a bad idea to open them (bio or other unknown hazard?) without reexamining the entire structure with new technology (ground penetrating radar, perhaps) first.


9 posted on 07/13/2005 11:52:27 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: SunkenCiv; blam
Zahi's just drummin' up business.

That was my impression as well.
Thanks much for posting it; I didn't have time to do so last night!

Regards,
CD

10 posted on 07/14/2005 5:08:30 AM PDT by Constitution Day (I am the Sultan of Oom-Papa-Mow-Mow.)
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To: RightWhale
"...Great Pyramid may still contain Khufu's intact pharaonic tomb..."

Name me any pyramid that has been shown to have been a tomb. The thought that pyramids are tombs is nothing more than just speculative consideration.
11 posted on 07/14/2005 5:21:08 AM PDT by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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To: SunkenCiv

bttt


12 posted on 07/14/2005 6:00:34 AM PDT by Bellflower (A new day is Coming!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Hawass is right. It is important is to show the adventure of archelogy so people will support it and then value the findings.


13 posted on 07/14/2005 7:03:58 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: wildbill

I guess that's what Hawass banned Gantenbrink from the plateau after he discovered the door in the first place? :'D

This is all about, tourism, Zahi's self-importance, and Egyptian nationalism.


14 posted on 07/14/2005 7:20:51 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (last updated by FR profile on Tuesday, May 10, 2005.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I say we send in an engineering batallion and just take the damn thing apart.


15 posted on 07/14/2005 7:22:34 AM PDT by phasma proeliator (It's not always being fast or even accurate that counts... it's being willing.)
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To: phasma proeliator

I think we have already discovered the Real Curse of the Mummy. ;')


16 posted on 07/14/2005 7:36:45 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (last updated by FR profile on Tuesday, May 10, 2005.)
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To: SunkenCiv

LOL...


17 posted on 07/14/2005 8:03:28 AM PDT by phasma proeliator (It's not always being fast or even accurate that counts... it's being willing.)
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To: vannrox

Maybe somebody else will. The pyramid probably worked. The sarg is empty, isn't it?


18 posted on 07/14/2005 9:53:44 AM PDT by RightWhale (withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty)
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To: RightWhale

Sakkarah
Step pyramid complex and tomb (August 1974)
http://oi.uchicago.edu/OI/IS/SANDERS/PHOTOS/EGYPT/SAKKARAH/sakkarah62.html

Khufu Pyramid: King's Chamber, Tomb View
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/egypt/explore/khufutombking.html


19 posted on 07/14/2005 10:05:33 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (last updated by FR profile on Tuesday, May 10, 2005.)
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To: Aetius
Its just sort of depressing how much of the ancient world has been lost to looting, natural disasters, and the type of fires that wiped out the Alexandrian library.

Just makes the little which does survive that much more interesting, exotic, and unfortunately, valuable (thus inviting more looting.)

20 posted on 07/14/2005 10:13:37 AM PDT by night reader (NRA Life Member since 1962)
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To: Aetius
Fascinating history of the library. Notes that the library was *not* burned by Julius Caesar, and in fact was around during Roman times, and was finally consigned to the flames by the Moslems:

The Vanished Library The Vanished Library
by Luciano Canfora
tr by Martin Ryle


21 posted on 07/15/2005 10:31:59 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (last updated by FR profile on Tuesday, May 10, 2005.)
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buncha Egypt links from my saved links page on FR (yes, I like to mess with the link names):

GGG: Egypt: Abydos Royal Enclosures (I started it)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1234710/posts

GGG: Egypt: Abydos Royal Enclosures (I started it)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1234710/posts

GGG: Egypt: Ancient Egyptian treasure shown 16 years after discovery (I started it)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1378636/posts

GGG: Egypt: Bubastis stone (I started it)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1445739/posts

GGG: Egypt: Burial complex of Mentuhotep II (I started it)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1179621/posts

GGG: Egypt: Colossal find -- Ramses II statue at Akhmim (I started it)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1368580/posts

GGG: Egypt: Djedefre (I started it)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1188269/posts

GGG: Egypt: Dynasty 0 -- Egyptian colonies in Canaan (I started it)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1289651/posts

GGG: Egypt: Glassmakers key to Egypt's status (I started it)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1429834/posts

GGG: Egypt: Great Pyramid may still contain Khufu's intact pharaonic tomb (thanks Constitution Day)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1442529/posts

GGG: Egypt: Herodotus' History (I started it)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1211770/posts

GGG: Egypt: Mysterious Inscription on the Great Pyramid (I started it)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1331709/posts

GGG: Egypt: Mystery of the Cocaine Mummies (I started it)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1371036/posts

GGG: Egypt: New Chronology -- David Rohl (thanks Scythian)
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3740e8e50733.htm

GGG: Egypt: Pharaohs and Kings / Test of Time -- David Rohl (thanks Scythian)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/725672/posts

GGG: Egypt: Quality of Life in the Desert? High Living in Rome's Distant Quarries (I started it)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1289111/posts

GGG: Egypt: Quarry, Setting and Team Marks -- The Carian Connection (I started it)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1239452/posts

GGG: Egypt: Rare Nubian King Statues Uncovered in Sudan (I started it)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1405986/posts

GGG: Egypt: Remains of ancient Egyptian seafaring ships discovered (I started it)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1370358/posts

GGG: Egypt: Revision of Ancient History -- A Perspective
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/669255/posts

GGG: Egypt: Smenkhkhare, the Hittite Pharaoh (I started it)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1181802/posts

GGG: Egypt: Swallowed by the Sands (I started it)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1196256/posts

GGG: Egypt: Tamil Trade (I started it)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1213591/posts

GGG: Egypt: Theban Mapping Project / Valley of the Kings etc (I started it)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1320504/posts

GGG: Egypt: Treasures of Tanis (I started it)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1389163/posts

GGG: Egypt: Voyage around the Erythraean Sea (I started it)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1214273/posts

GGG: Egypt: Who Destroyed Megiddo? Was It David Or Shishak?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1006914/posts


22 posted on 07/23/2005 8:15:02 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Tuesday, May 10, 2005.)
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To: SunkenCiv

gracias.


23 posted on 07/23/2005 8:25:20 AM PDT by ken21 (it takes a village to brainwash your child + to steal your property! /s)
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To: ken21

de nada.


24 posted on 07/23/2005 9:02:20 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Tuesday, May 10, 2005.)
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Campbell's Tomb on the Giza plateau, sometimes attributed to the time of Khufu:

Campbells Tomb
Together with Col. Howard Vyse and Giovanni Caviglia, Campbell collaborated on excavations in the vicinity of the pyramids at Giza in 1837. Amongst their discoveries was a shaft tomb of the 26th Dynasty (650-525 BC) now known as 'Campbell's tomb'. 1

The very remarkable tomb known as Campbell's tomb, requires some notice here, as it has been associated with the name of Khufu by some writers. For a detailed plan and measurements reference should be made to Col. Vyse's volumes; but we may state the general form of it as a large square pit in the [p. 139] rock, 26 by 30 feet, and 53 feet deep; outside this there is a trench, running all round it at 9 to 22 feet distant; this is 5 feet wide and 73 feet deep. Bars of rock are left at intervals across this trench. Altogether about 10,000 tons of limestone have been excavated here. 2
25 posted on 12/28/2005 6:01:31 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("In silence, and at night, the Conscience feels that life should soar to nobler ends than Power.")
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26 posted on 04/11/2006 4:05:37 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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