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Shock: First Animal on Earth Was Surprisingly Complex
Yahoo! ^ | Thursday, April 10, 2008 | LiveScience

Posted on 04/27/2008 6:07:35 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

Earth's first animal was the ocean-drifting comb jelly, not the simple sponge, according to a new find that has shocked scientists who didn't imagine the earliest critter could be so complex... scientists analyzed massive volumes of genetic data to define the earliest splits at the base of the animal tree of life... The new study surprisingly found that the comb jelly was the first animal to diverge from the base of the tree, not the less complex sponge, which had previously been given the honor... Unlike sponges, comb jellies have connective tissues and a nervous system, and so are more complex. Though squishy and tentacled, they are not, however, true jellyfish as they lack the classic bell-shaped body and characteristic stinging cells. The finding was unexpected because evolutionary biologists had thought that less complex animals split off and evolved separately first... "evolution is not necessarily just a march towards increased complexity," Dunn said.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: combjelly; godsgravesglyphs; jellyfish; marinebiology
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To: 2banana
It just evolved out of chemicals???
No. Life existed, they're arguing this is the first *animal*
81 posted on 04/27/2008 10:24:58 PM PDT by ketsu
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To: uglybiker

LOL!


82 posted on 04/27/2008 10:28:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_____________________Profile updated Saturday, March 29, 2008)
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To: fr_freak
What's the big mystery? You shoot a lightning bolt through a primordial soup and - BAM - you get an ocean-drifting comb jelly. Shoot the lightning bolt another way and - BAM - you get a platypus. Shoot it sideways and - BAM - you get a wicker basket. I love science!
Where can I get some of your drugs?
83 posted on 04/27/2008 10:31:14 PM PDT by ketsu
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To: allmendream

Well count me among the minority and obviously disenfranchise. I believe the Bible in a literal sense, strongly. I would rather believe in a literal translation than any non-biblical interpretation of geological history. Jesus be praised


84 posted on 04/27/2008 10:31:25 PM PDT by doc1019 (Acts 16:31, Romans 10:13 ... nuff said.)
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To: doc1019
I’ts that ol’ 6 day thing that captures me. ;-) Gee, I would guess that my bible knowledge is wanting …

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Does anyone know how long Adam and Eve were in the Garden and what was going on in the outside world during that time?

85 posted on 04/27/2008 10:32:54 PM PDT by fproy2222 ( Jesus is the Christ)
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To: doc1019
Well count me among the minority and obviously disenfranchise. I believe the Bible in a literal sense, strongly. I would rather believe in a literal translation than any non-biblical interpretation of geological history. Jesus be praised
Biblical literalism is actually a new heresy, in response to science. That's the central irony of it. You're so steeped in science that you try to explain spiritual truth, which is inherently ineffable, in materialistic terms.

You're stuck in the scientific mindset and you don't even know it.

86 posted on 04/27/2008 10:34:29 PM PDT by ketsu
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To: potlatch

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Have you looked under your dog’s bed for missing .gifs?

I have a great “swirling” animated .swf image I can post on FR threads - but only WebTV Plus or some MSN-TV browsers will show it on a screen

A PC cannot - unless on a website page with lots of Flash Macromedia codes

I also have some .swf music audios I can post on FR threads using the basic simple (img src=”Whatever.swf” width=”1” height=”1” border=0>

I can hear the music start and play as soon as my browser “sees” the posted .swf - as can any WebTV or MSN-TV user

But a PC cannot detect or hear it except on a webpage with embedded Flash codes

No clicking on a (a href=”Whatever.swf”)Whatever.swf(/a)

It just starts playing as you scroll down to a posted comment


87 posted on 04/27/2008 10:36:40 PM PDT by devolve ( -- -The_Project_Islamic_Hope_website_banner no_longer_features_Barack_Hussein_Obama_Junior)
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To: fproy2222

Well, if Adam and Eve were in the garden, evolution was certainly not taking place outside the garden. After all Adam and Eve already existed., if that is your inference.


88 posted on 04/27/2008 10:36:47 PM PDT by doc1019 (Acts 16:31, Romans 10:13 ... nuff said.)
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To: devolve

I know all about your itty bitty dot that shows up when you have a swf file embedded, lol!

But we see swf and flash files on webpages so I don’t understand it.

Hmmmm, you don’t see all my DYNAMIC HTML things, lol.

I would only find a flea under the dog bed I’m afraid.

Need to fing that larger strange ‘webby’ thing, thought I named it ‘space web’!


89 posted on 04/27/2008 10:42:04 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: Soliton; driftdiver; neverdem; The Spirit Of Allegiance; Nervous Tick

“you offer no evidence beyond the authority of an old book that doesn’t even mention that germs cause disease.”

I am too busy to engage in these debates much lately, as they tend to consume an inordinate amount of time. But...

sometimes people say things like you did, from which I cannot restrain myself from replying.

Louis Pasteur debunked the popular “scientific” thinking of his day with his famous swan-neck flask experiment.

Pasteur was a contemporary of Darwin. And his views, like Darwin’s, would eventually become tremendously influential to biology. Yet, unlike Darwin, Pasteur regarded the accuracy of the Bible as foundational to his pursuits.

Pasteur’s experiment simultaneously debunked the popular myth of his day of so-called “spontaneous generation” and replaced it with the germ theory of disease.

It is highly significant that Pasteur was quite confident of being right before these tests because he based them on his confidence in the Bible.

In particular, he pointed out that God created life to reproduce after its own kind.

The evolutionist websites will touch on this little embarrassment by trying to rewrite history or by trying to examine the particulars of his theologies or human frailties. But the fact remains, he was a great scientist who not only believed the Bible, but based his scientific theories on it. And he gave us much more practical and useful scientific results than can be directly attributed to Darwin.


90 posted on 04/27/2008 10:48:28 PM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: gleeaikin
According to the Bible the two versions actually describe the progression of creation.

Things were first designed, planned, and created in heaven, spiritually, before they were placed upon the earth.

That includes all plant life and creatures, including mankind.

Gen 2:4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,

Gen 2:5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.

Gen 2:6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.

Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

After having created man and woman spiritually he then placed them on the earth and formed for them bodies from the dust.

He also caused a deep sleep that yet rests upon most that dwell upon the earth.

We are they that sleep in the dust. Some choose to, some are imprisoned within.

91 posted on 04/27/2008 10:49:17 PM PDT by freedom9 ("And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life . . .)
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To: ketsu

I’m not stuck in anything. I believe in the literal interpretation of the Bible. I know that Jesus died for me, and by accepting this (and my personal declaration that Jesus is my Lord and savior); I will spend eternity with Him.


92 posted on 04/27/2008 10:52:37 PM PDT by doc1019 (Acts 16:31, Romans 10:13 ... nuff said.)
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To: MHGinTN
Have you ever tried reading the Bible with the starting premise that it is ALL TRUE but we humans just haven't figured out how that works?

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I have also heard a lot of scientists say to start with their belief being right and all we have to do is fit the facts to their conclusion, even though we do not understand it yet.

How is your way of reading the Bible any different from a Darwinist way of learning science.

93 posted on 04/27/2008 10:53:55 PM PDT by fproy2222 ( Jesus is the Christ)
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To: doc1019
I’m not stuck in anything. I believe in the literal interpretation of the Bible. I know that Jesus died for me, and by accepting this (and my personal declaration that Jesus is my Lord and savior); I will spend eternity with Him.
Which makes you a heretic. The central problem of many modern "Christians" is that they understand so little of it.
94 posted on 04/27/2008 10:55:58 PM PDT by ketsu
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To: ketsu

?


95 posted on 04/27/2008 10:57:55 PM PDT by doc1019 (Acts 16:31, Romans 10:13 ... nuff said.)
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To: doc1019
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The heresy of literalism as such is a modern, post-scientific phenomenon. Its beginnings can be traced in seventeenth-century Protestant orthodoxy, but it bloomed with twentieth-century Fundamentalism, when the modern world fully embraced the dynamic power of natural science. Scientific method crucially altered the Western mind. After Descartes we became principled skeptics, doubting in order to find out the truth. The notion stole into the religious mind that biblical narratives make proposals that only appear to compete with testable scientific findings (to test our faith) while ultimately, if miraculously, conforming to scientific truth.
http://people.cas.sc.edu/lewiske/heresy.html
96 posted on 04/27/2008 11:00:42 PM PDT by ketsu
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To: ketsu

So, I’m a heretic for believing in the Word of God? Strange concept.


97 posted on 04/27/2008 11:02:06 PM PDT by doc1019 (Acts 16:31, Romans 10:13 ... nuff said.)
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To: doc1019
So, I’m a heretic for believing in the Word of God? Strange concept.
Like explaining air to fish.
98 posted on 04/27/2008 11:03:44 PM PDT by ketsu
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To: ketsu

So, I’m a heretic for believing in the Word of God? Strange concept.


99 posted on 04/27/2008 11:03:48 PM PDT by doc1019 (Acts 16:31, Romans 10:13 ... nuff said.)
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To: SunkenCiv
GI,GO.

And I might add, Occam's Razor.

100 posted on 04/27/2008 11:12:49 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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