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Folk wanderings in "the Heartland"
Gene Expression ScienceBlog ^ | Tuesday, July 7, 2009 | Razib

Posted on 07/07/2009 7:51:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

Herodotus tells us of the Scythians, who ravaged the Middle East and Europe. The Romans later defeated Sarmatians on the plains of Pannonia. Even further back in history we know of the Indo-Aryan Mittani in Syria, while there are hints of a relationship between nomadic societies on the steppe of Eurasia and later settled populations in Eastern Europe, Iran & India. Because of the lack of literacy in most of the world before 500 B.C. we must rely on archaeology to connect the vaguest of these dots...

Standard physical anthropological methods did yield results which suggested that populations of European provenance were resident within the heart of Asia thousands of years ago. Where did they go? To some extent they remain in the substratum, as the Uighurs of Xinjiang exhibit a range of physical types, and their genes show them to be a hybrid population. The historical records are also good enough that we know that in the period between 500 and 1500, and especially in the second half, much of Central Asia shifted from Indo-European speech and culture to Turkic. The change was not total, Turks and non-Turks still coexist in in many regions, with the dominant non-Turkic group being Tajiks, Central Asian Persian speakers (there are even remnants of ancient peoples such as the Sogdians). 2,000 years ago in the Tarim Basin there flourished a group known as Tocharians, who spoke their own unique Indo-European language, served as conduits for Buddhism to China, and whose self-depictions make it rather clear that they were of generally European appearance.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: afanasevo; china; epigraphyandlanguage; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; sarmatians; scythia; scythian; scythians; sogdians; taklamakan; tarimbasin; tocharian; tocharians; xinjiang

1 posted on 07/07/2009 7:51:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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IndoEuropean Family Tree

2 posted on 07/07/2009 7:54:24 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv

How much was known about the Tarim Basin mummies and the Tocharians during the Indiana Jones era?

Is that what had the Nazi anthropologists traipsing all over Tibet and Central Asia?


3 posted on 07/07/2009 7:55:06 PM PDT by sinanju
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4 posted on 07/07/2009 7:56:07 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: sinanju
One of the jobs of the SS (not the Waffen SS) was to look for various "magical" items. They also went into Tibet to fetch some Tibetan gurus or whatever and bring them back to the Reich. There was also a ceremony to unfurl the swastika flag on some mountain, I forget the name, which was the legendary (dunno in what legend) birthplace of the Aryans. :')
Unholy Alliance: A History of Nazi Involvement with the Occult Unholy Alliance: A History of Nazi Involvement with the Occult
by Peter Levenda

5 posted on 07/07/2009 8:03:19 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv
Some doors are supposed to remain closed.

I would also question some of the historical buildings built in our country with specific dimensions and hidden agendas.

6 posted on 07/07/2009 8:10:13 PM PDT by BGHater (Insanity is voting for Republicans and expecting Conservatism.)
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7 posted on 07/07/2009 8:12:45 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: SunkenCiv
Kinda off topic, worth a look. Heavy pic warning

Totalitarian Architecture of the Third Reich

8 posted on 07/07/2009 8:13:01 PM PDT by BGHater (Insanity is voting for Republicans and expecting Conservatism.)
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To: SunkenCiv

That would be the “capture” of Mt. Elbruz.


9 posted on 07/07/2009 8:15:34 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: BGHater

“I would also question some of the historical buildings built in our country with specific dimensions and hidden agendas.”

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For Pete’s sake, Shush!

You want the History Channel to go out of business?

You want Nicholas Cage to run out of scripts to film?

You want Calypso Louie to be reduced to reading from the phone book?


10 posted on 07/07/2009 8:18:35 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: SunkenCiv

I read somewhere that Chinnghis Quan was reputed to have reddish hair and green eyes.


11 posted on 07/07/2009 8:29:48 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: sinanju
"Is that what had the Nazi anthropologists traipsing all over Tibet and Central Asia?"

Take a look at the work of Aurel Stein and Sven Hedin

12 posted on 07/07/2009 9:29:27 PM PDT by blam
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"I read somewhere that Chinnghis Quan was reputed to have reddish hair and green eyes."

Read through the below linked thread for a better understanding.

On The Presence Of Non-Chinese At Anyang

13 posted on 07/07/2009 9:33:51 PM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

Absolute proof of the Indo-Aryan cross-breeding in the Heartland was John Wayne playing Timujin (Genghis Khan)in the movie, The Conqueror.

It was so natural and effortless a role.

“I’m not gonna yurt ya, Pilgrim. The hell I’m not.” Pow!

And Susan Hayward as Bortai is a perfect demonstration of the DNA genetic pass-through of red hair from those mummies in western China.

It’s all there in Cinecolor if you close your eyes and say, “I do believe...”


14 posted on 07/08/2009 7:41:20 AM PDT by wildbill ( The reason you're so jealous is that the voices talk only to me.)
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Heh... yeah, and it still made money for the studio. :') 150 films, just one flop ("Barbarian and the Geisha"). Now, from my favorite scene (and probably everybody's) in True Grit:
Ned Pepper: I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!

Rooster Cogburn: Fill your hand you son of a b-!

15 posted on 07/08/2009 1:56:09 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: sinanju

That’s it, thanks!


16 posted on 07/08/2009 2:33:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: BGHater

So, IOW, no “National Treasure 3”?!? ;’)


17 posted on 07/08/2009 2:34:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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