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Neanderthal skull fragment discovered in Nice
Riviera Times ^ | Wednesday, August 24, 2011 | unattributed

Posted on 09/03/2011 4:50:34 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

Part of a prehistoric skull, dating back 170,000 years, has been discovered during an archaeological dig in Nice. Experts say the discovery could reveal important clues to the evolution of humans.

Students Ludovic Dolez and Sébastian Lepvraud were working on the excavation site, Lazaret Caves, on 13th August, when they came across the partial remains of a forehead belonging to a Homo Erectus.

Paleontologist Marie-Antoinette de Lumley, who has been in charge of excavation at Lazaret since 1961, said the bone is an important find: "It belonged to a nomad hunter, less than 25 years old. He may be able to teach us more about the evolution of his successor, the Neanderthal man."

The bone was left to dry for a few days where it was discovered, before being removed for a special public announcement attended by Nice Mayor Christian Estrosi.

Archaeologists have been searching this site patiently for 50 years, unveiling more than 20,000 bone fragments from prehistoric animals.

The last human discovery in the cave was in 2009, when the molar tooth of a child was uncovered.

(Excerpt) Read more at rivieratimes.com ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: france; godsgravesglyphs; lazaretcaves; neandertal; neandertals; neanderthal; neanderthals
Paleontologist Marie-Antoinette de Lumley presents the skull fragment of a nordic hunter, discovered at the Lazaret Cave in Nice

Neanderthal skull fragment discovered in Nice

1 posted on 09/03/2011 4:50:37 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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170,000-years-old skull unearthed in France
Stone Pages
Tuesday, August 30, 2011
A fraction of a prehistoric skull, which is believed to be 170,000 years old, has been unearthed in a cave in the eastern suburbs of the French town of Nice. Students Ludovic Dolez and Sebastian Lepvraud were working on the excavation site, Cave of Le Lazaret, on 13th August, when they came across the partial remains of a forehead belonging to a Homo Erectus. "It belonged to a nomad hunter, less than 25 years old. He may be able to teach us more about the evolution of his successor, the Neanderthal man," Riviera Times quoted Paleontologist Marie-Antoinette de Lumley, who has been in charge of excavation at Lazaret since 1961, as saying. The bone was left to dry for a few days where it was discovered, before being removed for a special public announcement attended by Nice Mayor Christian Estrosi.

Archaeologists have been searching this site patiently for 50 years, unveiling more than 20,000 bone fragments from prehistoric animals. Occupation layers of the cave in use during marine isotopic stage 6 (186,000-127,000 years ago) were excavated during the 1970s and may demonstrate construction abilities and other organisational skills by the inhabitants at the time.

2 posted on 09/03/2011 4:51:42 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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The Neandertal Enigma
by James Shreeve

in local libraries
Frayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe." [pp 126-127]

3 posted on 09/03/2011 4:51:47 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: wildbill; SatinDoll; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


4 posted on 09/03/2011 4:53:01 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

“Homo Erectus”

There’s just something odd about that phrase; I can’t quite figure out what...


5 posted on 09/03/2011 4:57:01 AM PDT by mkmensinger
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To: SunkenCiv
Experts say the discovery could reveal important clues to the evolution of humans.
"It belonged to a nomad hunter, less than 25 years old. He may be able to teach us more about the evolution of his successor, the Neanderthal man."

While the articles can be interesting, it seems that every discovery, even of lesser proportions than earlier discoveries, always says it may lead to better info on evolution. Until they find something with real meat, they ought to tone it down due to the triteness of the statement.

They also seem to make these definitive statements like the one above - nomad hunter, under 25 years old - I guess the age might not be too hard to discover, but the nomad hunter is as much a guess as "he foraged in a finite area eating bugs, berries, worms, and anything else that would sustain him - he really like the berries the best..."

6 posted on 09/03/2011 5:02:59 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: SunkenCiv
Paleontologist Marie-Antoinette de Lumley,..

Somebody's parents had a sense of humor.
7 posted on 09/03/2011 5:13:50 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits [A.Einstein])
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To: Condor51

I kinda expected a huge, tall, powdered wig.


8 posted on 09/03/2011 5:35:36 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: mkmensinger

No wonder they went extinct, eh? ;’)


9 posted on 09/03/2011 5:38:31 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: trebb

Yeah, they really should tone down statements based on what is already known about the situation prevailing when the dead guy was still alive.


10 posted on 09/03/2011 5:41:17 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
IMO the girl did pretty good for herself and picked an excellent profession.
When 'Marie-Antoinette' says; 'Off with their heads.' nobody objects.

[Maybe she's a distant Blood Relative? That would be a hoot.]

11 posted on 09/03/2011 5:42:45 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits [A.Einstein])
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To: SunkenCiv
Completely off topic. In the 1950s Air France was trying to promote tourism to the Riviera among anglophones. So they came up with a poster featuring a shapely young woman walking along a sunlit beach, taken from astern, with the legend "NICE". When their American travel representatives saw it, they suggested that it might be misinterperted and would not be displayed in American travel agents offices. Air France's advertising agency obligingly changed the legend to "CANNES".

NICE

CANNES

12 posted on 09/03/2011 5:46:26 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Ceterum autem censeo, Obama delenda est.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Caveman Like..Caveman Like
13 posted on 09/03/2011 6:05:40 AM PDT by 3Fingas ( Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: trebb

Nomad hinter ...

They figured he wasn’t a farmer because there were no telltale signs from wearing a John Deer ball cap. Still, he could have been a student on spring break.


14 posted on 09/03/2011 6:36:41 AM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets; 3Fingas

They liked ‘em meatier back then. Still works though...


15 posted on 09/03/2011 6:40:27 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: USMCPOP
Nomad hinter ... They figured he wasn’t a farmer because there were no telltale signs from wearing a John Deer ball cap. Still, he could have been a student on spring break.

Good one - I hadn't though of that.

16 posted on 09/03/2011 7:31:21 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: SunkenCiv
Yeah, they really should tone down statements based on what is already known about the situation prevailing when the dead guy was still alive.

Heck - many scientists these days can't recognize the situation prevailing around them. Other than relics and partial bones, they might be a wee uncertain about what was going on 170K+ years ago. I don't dispute that he was likely a nomad hunter, I dispute someone looking at a partial skull shard and making a definitive statement.

Yes, I am a Creationist, but I don't arbitrarily discount that some changes have occured; I just doubt the definitive statements that become different definitive statements as more is unearthed. If they stop treating it as a scientific Law, and stick to the Theory with the caveat that they are still gathering data, I find it as interesting as the next guy.

Sarcastic remarks shouldn't be part of an argument from a serious backer of a theory - look at the Global Warming debacle and how they go about "convincing" us by saying deniers are racist, dusting obvious hoaxes under the rug and acting as if there are no anomalies...

17 posted on 09/03/2011 7:40:43 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: SunkenCiv

Well, if the Riviera Times prints it, than it must be true. They wouldn’t have any financial interest in having people come there and spend their money.


18 posted on 09/03/2011 9:00:23 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: blueunicorn6

Since it’s local news, I suspect that they might have some interest in what happens locally, as well as in earning a living, which clearly you think is a shady enterprise. Thanks again for your continued interest in a topic that clearly doesn’t interest you enough to learn anything about it.


19 posted on 09/03/2011 9:15:43 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: trebb

I’ll be as sarcastic as I like, thanks. Thanks also for the very commonplace non-sequitur about how global warming is fake, therefore no scientists have any idea about what has ever gone on in Earth’s history. You ought to tone it down due to the triteness of the statement.


20 posted on 09/03/2011 9:36:53 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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