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Excavations in Serbia Raising New Questions About Early Humans in Europe [ Sicevo Gorge ]
Popular Archaeology ^ | Monday, November 28, 2011 | unattributed

Posted on 12/06/2011 8:06:30 PM PST by SunkenCiv

The Sicevo Gorge is a rugged, picturesque river canyon cut into the Kunivica plateau in southeastern Serbia... contains a series of caves, at least one of which has yielded evidence of human presence during the shifting glacial times of the Ice Age of present-day Europe... in 2008, anthropologists uncovered a partial human mandible (lower jaw), complete with three teeth, while excavating in a small cave... a fossil specimen, definitely a human that, at least in terms of morphology, predated the Neanderthal and may have had more in common, physically, with Homo erectus, thought by many scientists to be the precursor to Neanderthals and Homo sapiens (modern humans). Initial dating indicated that the fragment was between 130,000 and 250,000 years old, but a recent series of tests conducted by Dr. Norbert Mercier at the University of Bordeaux produced a date of "older than" 113,000 years BP, significantly younger by comparison.

Still, the dating places the specimen into a time period that far precedes the advent of modern humans into present-day Europe.

But it also raises new questions about the picture of early human movement and subsistence within a geographic area that researchers suggest was a southern haven for early humans during the shifting glaciation of the Ice Age.

Says Roksandic: "The absence of Neandertal traits in a specimen of this age is counter to the common assumption that Neandertals were the only hominin group in Europe during this time period, though the fragmentary nature of the mandible precludes any definite assignment to a particular species. Given that the date is a "terminus ante quem" the mandible could be substantially older. Any new finds are bound to be extremely relevant as there is such a dearth of information on this critical area for human and animal movement into and out of Europe".

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: balkans; godsgravesglyphs; origins; prehistory; serbia
Cave excavations in Sicevo Gorge. Courtesy Vasa Lukich.

Cave excavations in Sicevo Gorge. Courtesy Vasa Lukich.

1 posted on 12/06/2011 8:06:39 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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To: Renfield; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks Renfield.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


2 posted on 12/06/2011 8:12:22 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Balkan Caves, Gorges Were Pre-Neanderthal Haven
Reuters | 6-27-2008 | Ljilja Cvekic
Posted on 06/27/2008 2:45:44 PM PDT by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2037462/posts


3 posted on 12/06/2011 8:14:28 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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bfl

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4 posted on 12/06/2011 8:29:08 PM PST by LucyT
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To: SunkenCiv
..a fossil specimen, definitely a human that, at least in terms of morphology, predated the Neanderthal and may have had more in common, physically, with Homo erectus..

This gets a wee bit confusing. While "definitely human," this specimen is something akin to Homo erectus (a non-human?) I was under the impression that only homo sapiens sapiens were "human."

Have the lines between human and non-human become so blurred?

5 posted on 12/06/2011 9:10:58 PM PST by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent..)
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To: Thommas

Homo Sapiens Sapiens is the only modern human species — as John Anthony West amusingly put it, “smart old us with our hydrogen bombs and striped toothpaste” — but anything Homo is human, dating from about 2.4 million years ago. By contrast, Australopithecines are prehuman, despite being bipedal.


6 posted on 12/06/2011 9:23:43 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
Australopithecines are prehuman

ancestors of OWS specimens

7 posted on 12/06/2011 10:08:17 PM PST by GILTN1stborn (Can you hear me now?)
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To: GILTN1stborn

The species has degenerated that much in two million years?


8 posted on 12/06/2011 10:59:50 PM PST by sphinx
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To: Thommas
Have the lines between human and non-human become so blurred?

Have you checked out the various OWS sites recently? s/off

9 posted on 12/07/2011 5:58:31 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: sphinx

They found islam early...


10 posted on 12/07/2011 8:14:59 AM PST by null and void (This is day 1051 of America's ObamaVacation from reality.)
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To: null and void
From this:

To This:


11 posted on 12/07/2011 8:35:50 AM PST by montyspython (This thread needs more cowbell)
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To: montyspython
To this:


12 posted on 12/07/2011 8:38:11 AM PST by null and void (This is day 1051 of America's ObamaVacation from reality.)
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To: SunkenCiv

The Kosovar Albanians will claim that this is proof they were in the Balkans first, if being compared to a sub-human species, they maybe correct.


13 posted on 12/07/2011 8:50:35 AM PST by montyspython (This thread needs more cowbell)
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To: GILTN1stborn; montyspython

LOL!


14 posted on 12/07/2011 6:48:18 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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