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Massive Hole Discovered Under Antarctica, Bigger Than The Grand Canyon
Forbes ^ | 1/15/2014 | William Pentland

Posted on 01/17/2014 1:18:49 AM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome

A giant valley deeper than the Grand Canyon is buried beneath several miles of glacial ice in West Antarctica, according to a new study by British scientists.

The sub-glacial canyon is nearly two miles deep, 200 miles long and 15 miles wide.

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Outdoors; Science
KEYWORDS: alienvspredator; antarctic; antarctica; catastrophism; geology; grandcanyon; science; valley
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

A ‘hole’ that is filled with ice, snow, and what not is not a ‘hole.’


21 posted on 01/17/2014 3:30:28 AM PST by Gaffer
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“...Researchers from the University of Exeter, Newcastle University, the University of Bristol, the University of Edinburgh, the British Antarctic Survey and the University of York, used satellite images and airborne radar measurements to reveal the channels under the ice shelf. The channels can be seen on the surface of the ice shelf, as well as underneath, because the ice floats at a different height depending on its thickness.

The researchers also predicted the path of meltwater flowing under the part of the ice in contact with the land – known as the ice sheet. They discovered that the predicted flow paths lined up with the channels under the ice shelf at the point where the ice starts to float.

The match-up indicates that the water flow beneath the grounded ice sheet is responsible for the formation of the channels beneath the floating ice shelf. When the meltwater flowing under the ice sheet enters the ocean beneath the ice shelf, it causes a plume of ocean water to form, which then melts out the vast channels under the ice shelf. Previously, it was thought that water flowed in a thin layer beneath the ice sheet, but the evidence from this study suggests it flows in a more focussed manner much like rivers of water. The way in which water flows beneath the ice sheet strongly influences the speed of ice flow, however, the implications for the future of the ice sheet are yet to be determined. ...”

http://phys.org/news/2013-10-giant-channels-beneath-antarctic-ice.html


22 posted on 01/17/2014 3:32:42 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: shibumi

23 posted on 01/17/2014 3:34:35 AM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: Gaffer
A ‘hole’ that is filled with ice, snow, and what not is not a ‘hole.’

Where does it say the hole is filled with anything?

If you mean this: “Satellite data was used to fill the gap, because despite being covered beneath several kilometers of ice, the valley is so vast that it can be seen from space.”, they are referring to the ice ON TOP of it.

24 posted on 01/17/2014 3:39:05 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: JoeProBono

For the first time I can remember, someone beat you to it.

Post#15


25 posted on 01/17/2014 3:42:02 AM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: Vendome
"I need one of those new robo pack mules to carry my food and whatever else Id need."

Bonus: They're surprisingly sure-footed on ice.


26 posted on 01/17/2014 3:44:06 AM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome (Who issued the standdown order and where was pResident Øbama?)
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To: ETL
Where does it say the hole is filled with anything?

......buried beneath several miles of glacial ice in West Antarctica,

From the first sentence of the article.

27 posted on 01/17/2014 3:47:15 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

Werx fer me...


28 posted on 01/17/2014 3:49:57 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Gaffer

It’s an underground cavern with glacial ice above it.


29 posted on 01/17/2014 3:57:02 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

Hundreds of miles of ice dome? Sounds kinda not believable to me.


30 posted on 01/17/2014 4:00:11 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: shibumi

31 posted on 01/17/2014 4:04:11 AM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

So, does this mean when all the ice is melted on account of global warming there’ll be a big lake instead of a rise in sea level? Just God’s way of preventing another calamitous flood, perhaps...


32 posted on 01/17/2014 4:06:04 AM PST by Toucan Dance (ain't misbehavin)
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To: Gaffer

Several, not hundreds.


33 posted on 01/17/2014 4:06:48 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Gaffer
Giant channels discovered beneath Antarctic ice shelf Enlarge
The ice shelf channel is clearly visible on the MODIS Mosaic of Antarctica image map; the predicted flow route of water beneath the grounded ice sheet aligns with the initiation of the ice shelf channel. The dashed line marks the point at which the ice starts to float. Credit: MODIS Mosaic of Antarctica (MOA) Image Map / Anne le Brocq.

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Giant channels discovered beneath Antarctic ice shelf Enlarge
This is a schematic diagram indicating the approximate scale of one of the ice shelf channels, similar in height to the Eiffel Tower, and Tower Bridge in width. Credit: Anne Le Brocq

http://phys.org/news/2013-10-giant-channels-beneath-antarctic-ice.html

34 posted on 01/17/2014 4:10:04 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

“...beneath several miles of glacial ice..”

Now wait a minute here, they told us glacial ice was almost all melted?? Several miles is some thick ice!


35 posted on 01/17/2014 4:15:24 AM PST by jughandle
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

Oh Noes!

It is Anthropogenic Continental Drift!

“This widening of the Atlantic is taking place at an astounding rate, according to indisputable IPCD scientific data. Today it costs almost a third again as much to fly an Air France jet from New York to Paris than it did in 1997, a clear indicator that the ocean has indeed increased in size in the past decade. Surface shipping rates have likewise increased dramatically. -

See more at: http://thepeoplescube.com/current-truth/anthropogenic-continental-drift-an-incoherent-truth-t1668.html#sthash.TQCaXLK7.dpuf


36 posted on 01/17/2014 4:18:25 AM PST by Uncle Lonny
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To: jughandle
"Several miles is some thick ice!

No kidding! Seems "Climate Change" doesn't mean what some have heretofore pontificated on postulated, at least in terms of anthropogenic impact. My understanding is that Antarctica has seen record ice cap growth this past year.

37 posted on 01/17/2014 4:25:58 AM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome (Who issued the standdown order and where was pResident Øbama?)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

38 posted on 01/17/2014 4:29:29 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome
Veteran Meteorologist Calls Climate Scientists’ Claims That More Sea Ice Proves Global Warming “Just Really Despicable

P Gosselin 29. December 2013

At his Saturday Summary (12/28 here) veteran meteorologist Joe Bastardi comments on how humiliated global warming alarmist scientists are trying to save face by claiming that all the new polar sea ice proves global warming.

Antarctic sea ice has been approaching record highs and embarrassed alarmist scientists are scrambling to explain why.

After presenting his weather information, at the 7:10 mark Joe gets to the nitty-gritty on climate.

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Global sea ice: 1 million square kilometers above normal.
(cropped from Saturday Summary).

Now, I’ve got to do this because the global warming agenda is just really despicable in trying to claim the increase in Antarctic sea ice, opposite of what they said several years ago, and now they are trying to deny they said that, is a sign of global warming.”

Makes you wonder if climate scientists put water in the oven at home to try to make ice cubes.

Arctic sea ice has leveled off

Joe also shows Arctic sea ice has actually leveled off over the last few years, attributing the earlier reduction to oceanic cycles.

Later at the 8:15 mark Joe again sharply criticizes the shenanigans of climate alarmists, accusing scientists of lying with respect to Antarctic sea ice increase:

I’ll tell you what, now I cannot say how despicable it is to see the lying that is going on as you watch the Antarctic ice shelf continue to increase [...] It’s just amazing listening to all this going on.”

Joe later says that what’s going on in Antaractica is just a classic example of cyclical climate.

One thing is clear: climate science shows that scruples are in short supply within the field.

http://notrickszone.com/2013/12/29/veteran-meteorologist-calls-climate-scientists-claims-that-more-sea-ice-proves-global-warming-just-really-despicable/


39 posted on 01/17/2014 4:52:13 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

You’ve made some tremendously helpful, scientifically factual contributions to this thread. Thank you very much!


40 posted on 01/17/2014 5:33:17 AM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome (Who issued the standdown order and where was pResident Øbama?)
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