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“Out of Africa” Theory Officially Debunked
Atlantean Gardens ^

Posted on 07/27/2014 9:49:37 AM PDT by djf

Scientific evidence refuting the theory of modern humanity’s African genesis is common knowledge among those familiar with the most recent scientific papers on the human Genome, Mitochondrial DNA and Y-chromosomes. Regrettably, within mainstream press and academia circles, there seems to be a conspicuous – and dare we say it – deliberate vacuum when it comes to reporting news of these recent studies and their obvious implications.

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TOPICS: History; Miscellaneous; Science
KEYWORDS: africa; dmanisi; dna; europe; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; history; homoerectus; multiregionalism; origin; origins
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To: PIF
“Some have said Noah’s flood was 100,000 years ago also.”

I did not mean to sound like I believed that but wanted to show that “scientific” theories are all over the place like evolution and global warming one mans proof is anothers folly.

21 posted on 07/27/2014 11:28:22 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: RKV

The other thing that isn’t being recognized is that ‘out of africa’ theory goes way back to proto-humans. As far as I know, there is no fossil record of these proto-humans anywhere in the world, but Africa. I could be mistaken, but I don’t think there’s any record of Australopithecus in Russia.

There may have been multiple migrations, but the root of all humanity is the African continent.


22 posted on 07/27/2014 11:29:32 AM PDT by Marie (When are they going to take back Obama's peace prize?)
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To: papertyger

I actually have some knowledge on this topic because I have had genetic analysis done on my self. I also happen to follow the literature, and can tell you the state of the art changes over time. In this particular case the authors have hypothesized a common ancestor not found in the paleontological record. Unless and until you find physical evidence of this species you’re not selling me on the theory.


23 posted on 07/27/2014 11:35:46 AM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: Marie

Bucky Fuller says “Not so fast!! Take a look at Southeast Asia...”


24 posted on 07/27/2014 11:38:04 AM PDT by djf (OK. Well, now, lemme try to make this clear: If you LIKE your lasagna, you can KEEP your lasagna!)
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To: RKV
You still have not answered the question; are the factual assertions in the article true and accurate? Such behavior is today's disease no person answers a direct question. Failure to answer generally means the person does not know or knows and does not wish to answer as an answer would contradict his preconceived position.

The scientific method has not overthrown the "Law of Contradiction."

25 posted on 07/27/2014 11:41:51 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: djf

Academia needed an Afro Centric origin of man to debunk the bible and to lift black Africans to the top of the genetic heap.

Academia is bummed out and will never admit that black Africa is not the origin of man. They will go on teaching this as “fact” for as long as liberals and the government run the schools, which will be close to forever.


26 posted on 07/27/2014 11:48:43 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Free goodies for all -- Freedom for none.)
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To: djf
Look we all started somewhere. Who cares if was Africa?.. I know some black seem to think there something to brag about..if you ever seen the “The first man was a black man” tee shirt.

But that just shooting yourself in the foot..

by simple logic...

If you going around claiming your race is special because its was the “first man” your also claiming your the most “primitive man” dumb ass

... I would run as far away from that stupid ."first man/first race" bs as i could because is no honor

27 posted on 07/27/2014 12:08:58 PM PDT by tophat9000 (An Eye for an Eye, a Word for a Word...nothing more)
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To: djf
Scientific evidence refuting the theory of modern humanity’s African genesis is common knowledge among those familiar with the most recent scientific papers on the human Genome, Mitochondrial DNA and Y-chromosomes. Regrettably, within mainstream press and academia circles, there seems to be a conspicuous – and dare we say it – deliberate vacuum when it comes to reporting news of these recent studies and their obvious implications.

http://vault-co.blogspot.com/

Interesting ideas, worth a look. Everything worthwhile in the current era comes from the oppressed Neandertal genetic remnant.

28 posted on 07/27/2014 12:53:47 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("How can there be peace when the sorceries and whordoms of your mother Rome are so many?")
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To: djf

Jesus people, look at the site. It just on big conspiracy theorist site trying to prove that Atlantians run the world. Get a grip.


29 posted on 07/27/2014 1:11:48 PM PDT by Raymann
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To: mountainlion; RKV; djf; SunkenCiv
"I like the one that said King Tut was IRISH! There is a great difference between the lame stream media and real scientific data."

I'm R1b as are 68% of all Europeans.(The Irish are even higher)

As I understand it, the scientific group had an agreement with the associated Egyptians not to reveal any DNA results. The data was accidently released when the Discovery Channel realized that they'd inadvertly captured the groups DNA data from a picture of a blackboard.

List of haplogroups of notable people

Tutankhamun

An academic study which included DNA profiling of some of the related male mummies of the 18th Dynasty of Egypt was published in the Journal of the American Medical Association in 2010. Tutankhamun's Y-DNA haplogroup was not published in the academic paper,[29][30][31] however iGENEA, a Swiss personal genomics claimed to have reconstructed King Tut's Y-DNA profile based on screencaps from a Discovery Channel documentary about the study. iGENEA found that King Tut belonged to Y-DNA haplogroup R1b1a2,[32][33][34] Members of the research team that conducted the academic study published in 2010 stated they had not been consulted by iGENEA before they published the haplogroup information and described iGENEA's claims as "unscientific." [31] After pressure to publish Tutankhamun's full DNA report to confirm his Y-DNA results, the researchers refused to respond."

30 posted on 07/27/2014 2:13:58 PM PDT by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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To: mountainlion
I posted this eleven years ago:

Stranger In A New Land

Image: JOHN GURCHE PORTRAIT OF A PIONEER With a brain half the size of a modern one and a brow reminiscent of Homo habilis, this hominid is one of the most primitive members of our genus on record. Paleoartist John Gurche reconstructed this 1.75-million-year-old explorer from a nearly complete teenage H. erectus skull and associated mandible found in Dmanisi in the Republic of Georgia. The background figures derive from two partial crania recovered at the site.

31 posted on 07/27/2014 2:21:26 PM PDT by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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To: blam; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ..
Thanks blam.

32 posted on 07/27/2014 2:29:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: djf

I’ve always suspected that this stuff was a leftwing pseudo sience cave in to Afrocentrist PC bullshit. I never believed it..as a Christian I believe that God created the different races.


33 posted on 07/27/2014 2:41:04 PM PDT by pallmallman (Q)
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To: blam
An Ancestry magazine, I forgot the name, half a page or so on the process. They said that half the European males were related to Tut. I am 1L haplo but I am still trying to narrow it down. It is an interesting subject. The Tut discovery raised some questions to the out of Africa theory as they had assumed him to be African.
34 posted on 07/27/2014 2:44:14 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: dfwgator

“There goes my chance for reparations.”

You win. Best comment yet!


35 posted on 07/27/2014 3:10:08 PM PDT by Greenperson
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To: RKV
I actually have some knowledge on this topic because I have had genetic analysis done on my self.

Which means you have an investment in the status quo, therefore some measure of confirmation bias..

In this particular case the authors have hypothesized a common ancestor not found in the paleontological record.

That's not what the article is predicated on.

Planck didn't pull his famous dictum from thin air.

36 posted on 07/27/2014 3:28:04 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: blam
Interesting link but the Irish claim is slightly off

"King Tut Related to Half of European Men? Maybe Not

But Carsten Pusch, a geneticist at Germany's University of Tubingen who was part of the team that unraveled Tut's DNA from samples taken from his mummy and mummies of his family members, said that iGENEA's claims are "simply impossible."

But that doesn't mean some Europeans aren't related. I think the money quote is here.

"The haplogroup R1b1a2, which iGENEA claims includes King Tut, arose 9,500 years ago in the Black Sea region."

If King Tut is of that haplotype (not established) he may have been related to the Minoans who are also thought to descend from the same Black Sea pliestocene population. This mass migration has been speculated to be the result of a great flood.

As was said in the thread about the Minoans, some Europeans are decended from the same population. When it comes right down to it, none of this is earth shaking but it is interesting.

37 posted on 07/27/2014 3:36:03 PM PDT by Varda
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To: mountainlion
Lots of stories and little fact. I like the one that said King Tut was IRISH!

Was he talkative? Funny until drunk, and then bad-tempered? Did he have thyroid trouble? Was he about five feet tall when fully grown? Sarcastic and caustic when speaking to his children? Maudlin and sentimental when remembering his mother and the old days? Grouchy when old? Then he was probably Irish.

38 posted on 07/27/2014 4:40:17 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: Varda
If King Tut is of that haplotype (not established) he may have been related to the Minoans

From what I remember the Egyptians considered the Minoans the other civilized people with the rest of humanity being barbarians. So it is not a stretch to think that Minoan and Egyptian royals would have intermarried.

39 posted on 07/27/2014 4:51:49 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Albion Wilde

I am Irish. Why are you so insulting?


40 posted on 07/27/2014 5:08:39 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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