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IRS Made a Mistake
FreeRepublic ^ | July 29, 2021 | ProtectOurFreedom

Posted on 07/29/2021 6:40:37 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom

We filed our federal taxes electronically in 2019. We had a lot of charitable contributions which required a separate page to list them. The electronic submission system had no way to attach the second sheet.

IRS wrote to us saying we had to justify the contributions so we sent them the second page that was omitted from the original return. Then IRS wrote to us AGAIN saying send us the second page. So we sent it again. Now they have written to us saying if we don’t pay them the additional tax we owe them (about $1,000) by August 5, penalties and interest will start accruing. We do not owe them the money and it is their mistake that they have not acknowledged the form we sent them twice. We did not send our previous responses via registered or certified mail, so we have no confirmation of receipt by IRS.

My wife wants to pay them to avoid penalties and interest and get them off our back. I looked at the procedure for contesting an IRS mistake and it is awful involving a court. Hiring a tax lawyer is out of the question because they will burn up more than $1,000 in a heartbeat. If we pay them now, I figure that money is gone and we will never get it back.

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What to do? Write them a THIRD time with the form? Pay them to get them off our backs? If we pay them, try to get the money back? This is so frustrating and infuriating.
1 posted on 07/29/2021 6:40:37 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Is there a local IRS office you can visit?


2 posted on 07/29/2021 6:41:52 AM PDT by moovova (Yo GOP....we won't forget.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Did you call them?


3 posted on 07/29/2021 6:42:41 AM PDT by Baldwin
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
The electronic submission system had no way to attach the second sheet.

So how is that the IRS's fault?

Sounds like you need to send in a complete, corrected return and probably a paper version so that you can send in everything at once.

4 posted on 07/29/2021 6:43:45 AM PDT by Pollard
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

“We did not send our previous responses via registered or certified mail, so we have no confirmation of receipt by IRS.”

Big screw up, buddy.
Best to pay up ( via registerec mail) then maybe file an amended 2019 return sent via registered and certified mail, with all attachments and maybe get a refund


5 posted on 07/29/2021 6:43:56 AM PDT by silverleaf (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I would try calling.

Is there some reason you’re snail mailing the form instead of faxing or emailing it to them?


6 posted on 07/29/2021 6:44:38 AM PDT by Spirit of Liberty (Idiots are of two kinds: those who try to be smart and those who think they are smart.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

you can call the IRS to discuss


7 posted on 07/29/2021 6:46:45 AM PDT by PMAS (Vote with your wallets, there are 80 million of us - No Amazon, No Chy-Na made )
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I had this happen a couple times with my self employment business taxes. They made the mistake but I had to prove it. But I paid the amount they said I owed and then filed an “amended return” later (complete redo) and they gave me that credit towards the following year. So if it were me I would pay it, and then straighten it out after. They are usually pretty good about applying the proper credit later.


8 posted on 07/29/2021 6:48:32 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: PMAS

I have tried calling and everytime I get a recording, due to high caller volume call back tomorrow.... same every day. A$$ holes.


9 posted on 07/29/2021 6:51:22 AM PDT by DOC44
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To: Baldwin

What for... so Shaunita can put you on hold for 45 minutes??


10 posted on 07/29/2021 6:53:39 AM PDT by SMARTY (Republics decline into democracies & democracies degenerate into despotisms. Aristotle)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

You have to deal with the IRS personally, pick up the Phone and call them, they will fix it right away. The same goes for the various State taxing Authorities like California. MAIL does NOTHING!!


11 posted on 07/29/2021 6:55:39 AM PDT by eyeamok (founded in cynicism, wrapped in sarcasm)
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To: DOC44

I had to call them last year about a return during the time when everyone was waiting on Federal unemployment - it took a few tries and good amount of holding time, but I got through and they were helpful


12 posted on 07/29/2021 6:59:23 AM PDT by PMAS (Vote with your wallets, there are 80 million of us - No Amazon, No Chy-Na made )
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

“We had a lot of charitable contributions which required a separate page to list them.”

I think the IRS’ limit is $300.


13 posted on 07/29/2021 6:59:38 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit..)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

#1: Always send mail to them certified or registered.
#2: Scan or photograph everything. Always.
#3: Call them (but budget for a LOT of time on hold)

We had something similar happen. I was on hold for 45 minutes before someone came on and told me he had to transfer me to a different “accounting” department. Accounting department?? Isn’t the entire IRS one big accounting department?? An additional 90 minutes later I finally talked to the right person. 10 minutes later the issue was resolved. This was after 6 months of their letters, threats, extensions so they’d review my responses, etc.

If you don’t feel you owe the money, DON’T PAY THE MONEY! ...but definitely do your due diligence to document the hell out of everything, and call them.


14 posted on 07/29/2021 6:59:39 AM PDT by Egon
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Mess around with the IRS. Yup, that will work out fine.


15 posted on 07/29/2021 7:00:16 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: moovova

Is there a local IRS office you can visit?


Our small town (38,000) has one. Visiting is a surreal experience. There were two ‘agents’ and one armed guard. You walk in, the armed guard directs you to a sign in screen where you enter your problem. You then sit and wait. Under no circumstances can you do anything with your phone. If you take your phone out, you’ll be directed to leave the building.

Our tax question was unusual and complicated and the local people were useless. However, they should be able to deal with your problem. Accessing IRS through the phone is even stranger.

Good luck.


16 posted on 07/29/2021 7:00:19 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

For the past year or two the IRS has been a disaster. I have mailed/faxed the same information numerous times at their request & they have continued to say they did not get it. I have even received a letter saying the got the info & need additional time to review, and then the next day saying they need the information. One department/office doesn’t know what the other is doing, but they are supposed to put notes on you file so any agent has access to them. Unfortunately, they don’t always write the notes down, or the agent will say their system is down & they can’t read the notes..... They have every excuse in the books.

It is a complete hassle, but the best thing to do is call them. It is very difficult to get through & I sit here just keep redialing & if lucky enough to get through, wait on hold.

If you can call them from a different line than your fax line it is best. That way when you get an agent on the phone line, they usually give you a fax number directly to the agent you are speaking with, and you can fax the info while on the phone. Otherwise you can explain your situation & generally will be given an additional 30 days to comply.

I would not pay anything until you speak with an agent. I tis more of a hassle to get the money back.


17 posted on 07/29/2021 7:00:35 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: silverleaf

Pay online. It’s easy and it’s fast. And the electronic records are easier for them to access.


18 posted on 07/29/2021 7:01:37 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Is this a vanity post?


19 posted on 07/29/2021 7:02:59 AM PDT by NavyShoe
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I think I’m with your wife on this: pay up now, amend later. Best of luck my FRiend.


20 posted on 07/29/2021 7:03:55 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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