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2,000-year-old hoard of Roman coins may have been hidden by a soldier during a bloody civil war in Italy
LiveScience ^ | published 1 day ago | Tom Metcalfe

Posted on 04/21/2023 11:08:53 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

A hoard of 175 silver coins unearthed in a forest in Italy may have been buried for safe keeping during a Roman civil war.

The coins seem to date from 82 B.C., the year the Roman general Lucius Cornelius Sulla fought a bloody war across Italy against his enemies among the leaders of the Roman Republic, which resulted in Sulla's victory and his ascension as dictator of the Roman state.

But historian Federico Santangelo, a professor who heads Classics and Ancient History at Newcastle University in the United Kingdom, said it also could have been buried by a businessman who wanted to keep his money safe during turbulent times... Santangelo was not involved in the discovery...

Researchers discovered the coin hoard buried in a terracotta pot in 2021 but kept it secret so that the site could be completely investigated.

Lorella Alderighi, an archaeologist with the provincial office for archaeology, told Live Science the coins were discovered by a member of an archaeological group in a newly-cut area of forest northeast of the city of Livorno in Tuscany. Archaeological investigations revealed the earliest coins dated from 157 or 156 B.C., while the most recent were from 83 or 82 B.C., she said.

The area was probably forested then as it is now, on a small hill overlooking a swamp. The remains of a Roman farm had previously been found about half a mile (1 kilometer) away, she said...

A few years earlier, Italy had been gripped by the Social War between Rome and its Italian allies, while in 82 B.C. Sulla had just returned with his legions from Asia to confront his enemies in Rome, having already attacked the city in 88 B.C. and been declared a public enemy in 87 B.C.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: coins; epigraphyandlanguage; godsgravesglyphs; hoard; luciuscorneliussulla; romanempire
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The hoard of 175 silver Roman coins, worth tens of thousands of dollars in today's money in just face value alone, was found in 2021 near Livorno in Tuscany.
Image credit: Franco Sammartino
Image credit: Franco Sammartino



1 posted on 04/21/2023 11:08:53 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 04/21/2023 11:10:14 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (NeverTrumpin' -- it's not just for DNC shills anymore -- oh, wait, yeah it is.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Roman coins can’t have “face value” in today’s terms. Neither Rome nore the monetary units Rome used exist any longer.


3 posted on 04/22/2023 1:00:39 AM PDT by Theophilus (It's fake and defective)
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To: SunkenCiv

Cool. I’m just heading out the door to do a little treasure myself. I found a patch of old forest in a park that I haven’t visited yet, so going to check it out. Wish me luck.


4 posted on 04/22/2023 1:05:49 AM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay Metal)
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To: SunkenCiv

Military payroll?

One of the chief uses of money was to pay soldiers. The ruler could collect coins through taxation, then use the coins to pay the military, who in turn spent them for supplies and weapons.


5 posted on 04/22/2023 3:51:09 AM PDT by FarCenter
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To: SunkenCiv

I believe they were paid roughly 40 ounces of silver per week... or about one ounce of gold.

This would be a months pay


6 posted on 04/22/2023 4:11:15 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: SunkenCiv

Notice that pure silver doesn’t tarnish


7 posted on 04/22/2023 5:04:55 AM PDT by zeebee ( The left thinks they can train smart people to be stupid.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Super find.


8 posted on 04/22/2023 5:09:07 AM PDT by Ciexyz (Prayers for America.)
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To: Theophilus
Roman coins can’t have “face value” in today’s terms. Neither Rome nore the monetary units Rome used exist any longer.

I think they spelt numismatic value wrong.

9 posted on 04/22/2023 5:10:47 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Das dicke Ende kommt noc!)
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To: sten

Not even close!

https://www.vindolanda.com/blog/roman-soldiers-pay

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denarius


10 posted on 04/22/2023 5:17:27 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (NeverTrumpin' -- it's not just for DNC shills anymore -- oh, wait, yeah it is.)
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To: Ciexyz

Definitely!


11 posted on 04/22/2023 5:19:19 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (NeverTrumpin' -- it's not just for DNC shills anymore -- oh, wait, yeah it is.)
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The Original so its claimed


Flowing hair

The Eisenhower dollar

And others

12 posted on 04/22/2023 5:31:30 AM PDT by deport
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To: sten

The traditional gold:silver ratio is 15:1.


13 posted on 04/22/2023 5:34:22 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: zeebee

All that old silver I have must not be pure. Lol.


14 posted on 04/22/2023 5:34:53 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Vermont Lt

Yes.

You beg the question

Is Gold too expensive or is silver under valued?


15 posted on 04/22/2023 5:38:39 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day )
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To: SunkenCiv

I had a guy once come into pawn shop where I worked claiming he had an uncirculated Roman silver coin. He also claimed he had a 1000 carat opal. He was about 6’5”, 300 lbs and unwashed for maybe a week. Seemed a bit nervous.

I was glad I had my Glock 30


16 posted on 04/22/2023 6:29:39 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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To: muir_redwoods

Uncirculated, riiiiiight. :^D

1000 carat opal, hmm, not unheard of I guess, that’s almost enough opal to make a bowling ball, which obviously would make any bowler the envy of the tournament, unless Walter brandished a firearm.


17 posted on 04/22/2023 7:39:49 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (NeverTrumpin' -- it's not just for DNC shills anymore -- oh, wait, yeah it is.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I often wonder what happened to the person who buried such stashes and why they could not return to claim them.


18 posted on 04/22/2023 7:40:23 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (“No man’s life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session.”)
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To: SunkenCiv

Sulla was a bad dude, but young lifeguard Joe Biden taught him a lesson.


19 posted on 04/22/2023 7:47:59 AM PDT by x
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

In this case, they were probably buried on orders from a commander just before a battle, so a) no one ran off with the cash and b) no one got paid unless the commander prevailed, and for that matter, c) if the other side won, they’d have no prize.


20 posted on 04/23/2023 7:52:13 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democrato delenda est. [thanks Fai Mao])
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