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2004 Projected Presidential Electoral Votes as of 4/12/2004
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| Monday, April 12, 2004
| Momaw Nadon
Posted on 04/12/2004 3:11:04 PM PDT by Momaw Nadon
| State |
% Chance of Bush Winning |
Bush Electoral Votes |
Kerry Electoral Votes |
| Alabama |
94.0 |
9 |
0 |
| Alaska |
95.0 |
3 |
0 |
| Arizona |
75.0 |
10 |
0 |
| Arkansas |
67.0 |
6 |
0 |
| California |
15.0 |
0 |
55 |
| Colorado |
81.0 |
9 |
0 |
| Connecticut |
14.0 |
0 |
7 |
| Delaware |
22.0 |
0 |
3 |
| District of Columbia |
1.0 |
0 |
3 |
| Florida |
61.0 |
27 |
0 |
| Georgia |
91.0 |
15 |
0 |
| Hawaii |
8.0 |
0 |
4 |
| Idaho |
95.0 |
4 |
0 |
| Illinois |
17.0 |
0 |
21 |
| Indiana |
88.0 |
11 |
0 |
| Iowa |
42.0 |
0 |
7 |
| Kansas |
93.0 |
6 |
0 |
| Kentucky |
87.0 |
8 |
0 |
| Louisiana |
83.5 |
9 |
0 |
| Maine |
19.0 |
0 |
4 |
| Maryland |
18.0 |
0 |
10 |
| Massachusetts |
4.0 |
0 |
12 |
| Michigan |
43.0 |
0 |
17 |
| Minnesota |
41.0 |
0 |
10 |
| Mississippi |
93.0 |
6 |
0 |
| Missouri |
65.0 |
11 |
0 |
| Montana |
92.0 |
3 |
0 |
| Nebraska |
96.0 |
5 |
0 |
| Nevada |
70.0 |
5 |
0 |
| New Hampshire |
65.0 |
4 |
0 |
| New Jersey |
18.0 |
0 |
15 |
| New Mexico |
57.0 |
5 |
0 |
| New York |
12.0 |
0 |
31 |
| North Carolina |
84.0 |
15 |
0 |
| North Dakota |
95.0 |
3 |
0 |
| Ohio |
60.0 |
20 |
0 |
| Oklahoma |
95.0 |
7 |
0 |
| Oregon |
40.0 |
0 |
7 |
| Pennsylvania |
57.0 |
21 |
0 |
| Rhode Island |
4.0 |
0 |
4 |
| South Carolina |
87.0 |
8 |
0 |
| South Dakota |
95.0 |
3 |
0 |
| Tennessee |
81.0 |
11 |
0 |
| Texas |
94.0 |
34 |
0 |
| Utah |
96.0 |
5 |
0 |
| Vermont |
8.0 |
0 |
3 |
| Virginia |
88.5 |
13 |
0 |
| Washington |
29.0 |
0 |
11 |
| West Virginia |
53.0 |
5 |
0 |
| Wisconsin |
50.0 |
0 |
10 |
| Wyoming |
96.0 |
3 |
0 |
| Totals |
|
304 |
234 |
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TradeSports.com which is a futures market in which people bet on the outcomes of various things.
According to the current trading prices of the futures contracts, an estimate can be found of what traders are betting will be the outcome of 2004 Presidential Election.
If the traders are correct, President Bush would receive 304 Electoral Votes and John Kerry would receive 234 Electoral Votes.
If the weighted probabilities of President Bush winning in the states are added up, and then divided by 538, and multiplied by 100, then President Bush should get 290.61 Electoral Votes.
270 Electoral Votes are needed to win the Presidency.
Opinions and commentary are welcome.
To: Momaw Nadon
2
posted on
04/12/2004 3:11:21 PM PDT
by
Momaw Nadon
(Goals for 2004: Re-elect President Bush, over 60 Republicans in the Senate, and a Republican House.)
To: All
Wisconsin is at 50.0% today.
The bid price is 48.0 and the ask price is 52.0. These average to 50.0.
The tie goes to John Kerry due to Democrat vote fraud.
3
posted on
04/12/2004 3:11:57 PM PDT
by
Momaw Nadon
(Goals for 2004: Re-elect President Bush, over 60 Republicans in the Senate, and a Republican House.)
To: Momaw Nadon
Yay! I was looking for this earlier.
4
posted on
04/12/2004 3:12:05 PM PDT
by
EllaMinnow
("Pessimism never won any battle." - Dwight D. Eisenhower)
To: Momaw Nadon
I am betting Bush will have 270 by 700pm EST..
5
posted on
04/12/2004 3:12:57 PM PDT
by
cardinal4
(Terrence Maculiffe-Ariolimax columbianus (hint- its a gastropod.....)
To: Momaw Nadon
PA at 57%? Wow that is great news!
6
posted on
04/12/2004 3:13:46 PM PDT
by
Plutarch
To: Momaw Nadon

From the Iowa Futures Market site.
7
posted on
04/12/2004 3:14:15 PM PDT
by
billorites
(freepo ergo sum)
To: Momaw Nadon
Thanks Momaw. Unfortunately, Dales didn't do his ECB thread this weekend, so this good news will have to do for this week.:)
8
posted on
04/12/2004 3:16:18 PM PDT
by
WinOne4TheGipper
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To: Plutarch
PA at 57%? Wow that is great news!
Well, has anybody told Arlen about this probability? Does it square with "Scottish law"?
9
posted on
04/12/2004 3:17:10 PM PDT
by
Theodore R.
(When will they ever learn?)
To: Momaw Nadon
The three states in this survey in which I have the least confidence are WV, PA, and OH, all bordering one another.
10
posted on
04/12/2004 3:18:32 PM PDT
by
Theodore R.
(When will they ever learn?)
To: Theodore R.
And Nebraska is yet again the most republican state.
:)
11
posted on
04/12/2004 3:22:45 PM PDT
by
Phisher
To: WinOne4TheGipper
Dales now does his updates on Wednesdays.
12
posted on
04/12/2004 3:25:09 PM PDT
by
So Cal Rocket
(If consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds, John F. Kerry’s mind must be freaking enormous)
To: Theodore R.
I tend to agree with this trend. It is pretty much what I predicted at the start of the year. I think before it is all said and done Bush will pick up Wisconsin, Iowa and Minnesota and should have an electoral landslide to go along with a five to six point popular vote win.
13
posted on
04/12/2004 3:27:00 PM PDT
by
Patrick1
To: Momaw Nadon
Really interesting!
14
posted on
04/12/2004 3:32:05 PM PDT
by
tkathy
(nihilism: absolute destructiveness toward the world at large and oneself)
To: Phisher
And Nebraska is yet again the most republican stateSee what clean water, clean air, clean living can do to the mind.
15
posted on
04/12/2004 3:33:04 PM PDT
by
Digger
To: So Cal Rocket
Oops. That's something I must've missed when I was away. Thanks.
16
posted on
04/12/2004 3:34:17 PM PDT
by
WinOne4TheGipper
(See me review DU!: http://ranking.websearch.com/UserReviews.aspx?url=www.democraticunderground.com)
To: Phisher
And Nebraska is yet again the most republican state. I'd prefer a #1 in College Football, but this is a pretty good second.
To: Momaw Nadon
For states with a 90% confidence rate, it's Bush 103 Kerry 26.
For states with an 80% confidence rate, it's Bush 187 Kerry 169.
For states with a 70% confidence rate, it's Bush 202 Kerry 183.
18
posted on
04/12/2004 3:40:28 PM PDT
by
gitmo
(Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
To: Momaw Nadon
"The tie goes to John Kerry due to Democrat vote fraud."
If Bush does nothing about vote fraud this year, he will lose!!
19
posted on
04/12/2004 3:42:22 PM PDT
by
international american
(Support our troops!! Send Kerry back to Bedlam,Massachusetts!!)
To: Phisher
Please explain the dem. U.S. senator????? Repub. Neb.???
To: Phisher
The weak states are all in the Blue Socialist list--all so far left they smell of old, unwashed and never-changed commie undewear.
Here's a great new book I recommend to all freepers: "An End to Evil" by Frum and Perle. The books spells out the admin's stance on terrorism in a way that is devastatingly clear. It also shoots down the opponents (all RATs and the leftist media!). The authors make it clear that the terrorists are losing, but that Bush and company need to increase the pressure in Iraq, Iran and North Korea and soon.
To: Momaw Nadon
District of Columbia is more like 0.001.
To: gitmo
The presidency is determined not by the popular vote but by the electoral college. President Bush could still lose the popular vote and still win a second term like he did in 2000!
23
posted on
04/12/2004 3:49:10 PM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: badgerlandjim
Yup. You'll never see DC going for a Republican in our lifetime even if he was a true-bred RINO.
24
posted on
04/12/2004 3:49:59 PM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: Patrick1
We simply cannot be overly-optimistic. The polls on the left still have Kerry leading. It's going to take a lot of grass roots scouring of the Pubbies out there that don't vote and get them to the polls in masse! Keep in mind that the RATs will do all they can, legally and otherwise to win votes. The dead are sure to vote again and again in the Blue states.
To: cardinal4
I am betting Bush will have 270 by 700pm EST.. That would be a neat trick. Considering that only Kentucky and Indiana will have their polls closed at that time. I'll settle for 270 9:05PM EST.
26
posted on
04/12/2004 3:51:31 PM PDT
by
SamAdams76
(I'm voting for John Kerry until I vote against him in November)
To: Momaw Nadon
Throw Hitlery into the mix..then see what happens!
27
posted on
04/12/2004 3:53:37 PM PDT
by
Don Corleone
(Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
To: Paulus Invictus
I agree one should be cautious. But if the real world trading is any indication of where people's hearts are, its more reliable than a daily tracking poll. I suspect the polls that show Kerry leading more often than not, have people simply tell the pollsters what they want to hear. As long we counteract the partisan media spin, its okay to leave Ketchup Boy's partisans with the pleasant daydream their candidate will win in November. After all nothing would serve our interests better than if the other side became lazy and complacent and thought they had the election in the bag.
28
posted on
04/12/2004 3:55:36 PM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: Phisher
And good old Hawaii continues to be a RAT stronghold in spite of the fact that they depend heavily upon mainland tourism just to stay afloat. It is doubtless the most heavily porked up, corrupt states in the Union per capita and their Congressional and Senatorial reps are among the worst leftists outside of Calipornia.
To: Paulus Invictus
That's true. But they have Linda Lingle. So if there's a strong Bush tide, Hawaii may just go for him. In a couple of months we'll find out if the islands will still bestow Seinfeld with a luau.
30
posted on
04/12/2004 3:57:41 PM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: Momaw Nadon
I did a quick calculation of the change this week again:
State Change[toward Bush]
Alabama 2
Alaska 2
Arizona 1
Arkansas -0.5
California -2.5
Colorado 2
Connecticut 0
Delaware -7
DC 0
Florida 0
Georgia 1
Hawaii -4.5
Idaho 0
Illinois -1
Indiana 0.5
Iowa 0
Kansas 0.5
Kentucky 0.5
Louisiana 0
Maine -3.5
Maryland 0.5
Massachusetts 0
Michigan -4
Minnesota -2
Mississippi 0.5
Missouri -1
Montana 1
Nebraska 1
Nevada 2
NH 0
New Jersey 0.5
New Mexico 0
New York -1
North Carolina 0
North Dakota 0
Ohio 2
Oklahoma 0
Oregon 0
Pennsylvania 2
Rhode Island 0
South Carolina 1
South Dakota 0
Tennessee -0.8
Texas 0
Utah 0
Vermont 0
Virginia 0
Washington -4
West Virginia 0
Wisconsin 3
Wyoming 0
31
posted on
04/12/2004 4:05:45 PM PDT
by
JLS
To: SamAdams76
Yeah, someone just pointed that out to me! Ill settle for 905 EST, as well..
32
posted on
04/12/2004 4:05:49 PM PDT
by
cardinal4
(Terrence Maculiffe-Ariolimax columbianus (hint- its a gastropod.....)
To: goldstategop
Look at
Dales Electoral College Breakdown 2004. He does a good analysis of the probable EC votes in 2004.
If you look at states that are STRONG and SAFE for the 2 candidates, it's BUSH 127 and KERRY 61.
If you include states that are LEANING, then it's BUSH 222 and KERRY 209.
Among the states that are SLIGHT, they are all BUSH (+77). That leaves 30 EC votes that are tossups.
33
posted on
04/12/2004 4:07:05 PM PDT
by
gitmo
(Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
To: Plutarch
And Florida at 61%, Ohio at 60%. This tracks with polls that show that despite all the talk about how these states are toss-ups depending on the economy, Bush actually has a good lead.
34
posted on
04/12/2004 4:09:21 PM PDT
by
My2Cents
("Well...there you go again.")
To: Momaw Nadon
If I was a Rat voter there are a couple of teasers...New Mexico, Wisconsin & Pennsylvania. I'd be tempted to lay money on them for the sodomite party.
To: international american
If Bush does nothing about vote fraud this year, he will lose!! Only a loser would make that statement.
To: JLS
Thanks for that breakdown. Here's another
1/21-2/2 Bush 355
2/9-2/16 Bush 321
2/23-3/22 Bush 278
3/29-4/4 Bush 304
After slipping a little in feb and march, the numbers are improving
37
posted on
04/12/2004 4:37:30 PM PDT
by
paul51
To: Momaw Nadon; redlipstick; cardinal4; billorites; Plutarch; Theodore R.; So Cal Rocket; ...
To: Patrick1
Bush will pick up Wisconsin, Iowa and Minnesota
That is probably wishful thinking on our part. Republicans always think they will will WI in close races, and it rarely happens. IA was lost as far back as Dukakis, and MN offers hopes only when the Democrats are badly divided among themselves, which they are not in 2004. I also think it will be nearly impossible for Bush to win PA -- Specter will run six to eight points ahead of Bush in my estimation.
39
posted on
04/12/2004 7:30:33 PM PDT
by
Theodore R.
(When will they ever learn?)
To: Momaw Nadon
Is it possible to buy options on Kerry winning or only Bush?
I would love buy options on Kerry winning D.C. --> they're a steal at 99.0 !!!!
40
posted on
04/12/2004 7:53:39 PM PDT
by
rhinohunter
(Toomey for Senate!!!)
To: Momaw Nadon
California will be a surprise. Arnold promised to deliver CA for W. and I second that. Never mind the IFS. Just watch. Don't believe the liberals. Someone is working behind the scene.
To: Lily4Jesus
Arnold promised to deliver CA for W....When did that happen?? I must've missed that.
42
posted on
04/14/2004 3:39:07 PM PDT
by
Recovering_Democrat
(I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
Comment #43 Removed by Moderator
To: Momaw Nadon
44
posted on
04/16/2004 8:09:55 PM PDT
by
Momaw Nadon
(Goals for 2004: Re-elect President Bush, over 60 Republicans in the Senate, and a Republican House.)
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