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Non-Attic Characters
University of California, Irvine, Thesaurus Linguae Graecae ^ | September 7 2003 (rev 9-28-2003) | Nick Nicholas

Posted on 07/18/2004 6:43:19 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

The first character is the sampi, as it was used (briefly) in the Ionic alphabet as a sibilant. The first question to answer is whether it should be separated from the numerical sampi at all... The second question is what the phonetic value of sampi was... Jeffery (1990:39)... also suspects that sampi was originally borrowed from Carian, and used to express the Carian sibilant in loanwords... In the pre-Hellenic language of Lemnos (possibly related to Etruscan), it is used, but Jeffery has no idea what it sounded like. In the older inscriptions of the non-Hellenic language of Phrygia (related to Armenian, and a similar alphabet to Lemnos), it was at the time usually transliterated as z. The zigzag also appears in a random vase handle in Delphi, which may be from Phrygia.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: alphabet; archaeology; armenia; armenian; armenians; caria; carian; carians; epigraphy; epigraphyandlanguage; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; greek; history; hurrians; kingmidas; kreti; language; linguistics; midas; minoan; minoans; phrygia; phrygian; phrygians; syllabary; tarshish; translation; trojanwar
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1 posted on 07/18/2004 6:43:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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Probably the last language related ping for a bit.
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2 posted on 07/18/2004 6:44:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: SunkenCiv

"Non-Attic Characters"

Are these similar to those "Out of the Closet" boys from the next block?


3 posted on 07/18/2004 6:52:45 PM PDT by Socratic (Yes, there is method in the madness.)
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To: SunkenCiv
sampi has its archaic look: αβγδεϝζ[η]θ̣κλμ[ν]ξοπϙρστ̣υφχψω . I guess that you just gotta be a greek to appreciate it! ;>)
4 posted on 07/18/2004 6:54:13 PM PDT by steplock ( www.spadata.com)
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To: steplock

Boy! THAT didn't work at all on here!

It is ALL greek to me ...


5 posted on 07/18/2004 6:54:55 PM PDT by steplock ( www.spadata.com)
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To: steplock

Got one letter, that T thing.


6 posted on 07/18/2004 7:25:18 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: Socratic
Not sure, but I have heard stories about some characters my family forced to live in the attic.
7 posted on 07/18/2004 8:20:58 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: steplock

How about these?

8 posted on 07/18/2004 10:04:09 PM PDT by struwwelpeter
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To: SunkenCiv

Not true. If she stood her ground, she'd be granted a court date, where a judge (not a police officer) would hear her case. The burden of proof would be on the state, and she would have the right to request a trial in which some number of her peers, would render a verdict. If she lost, she would have the opportunity to appeal.

Still a police state?


9 posted on 07/19/2004 11:50:11 AM PDT by linear
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To: linear
Sorry - wrong thread. That was hilarious.
10 posted on 07/19/2004 11:53:06 AM PDT by linear
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To: linear
What a relief. I thought I'd missed some inside joke or somethin'. :')
11 posted on 07/19/2004 11:13:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: SunkenCiv

The only joke is my posting skills. lol.


12 posted on 07/20/2004 9:38:47 AM PDT by linear
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Uncracked Ancient Codes
(Lost Languages reviewed)
by William C. West
Linear A, undeciphered, tantalizes, because about 80 percent of its signs resemble those of Linear B. Its system of numerals seems to be fairly clear: On several tablets, a term for "total" appears at the bottom of a tablet that includes a series of numbers. The numbers add up to the total given, instilling confidence that we understand at least these units. Attempts to show that Linear A represents a known language of the Aegean world, however, have not been successful. All but a few scholars agree that the language of Linear A cannot be Greek, and the idea that it represents a Semitic language has been rejected by nearly everyone. An Anatolian language (perhaps Lycian) remains a possibility... Robinson's descriptions of such analysis, and his accounts of both successful and unsuccessful decoding attempts, are clear, provocative and stimulating.
Lost Languages: The Enigma Of The Worlds Undeciphered Scripts Lost Languages:
The Enigma Of The World's Undeciphered Scripts

by Andrew Robinson


13 posted on 12/02/2004 10:47:21 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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bttt with a few related GGG / FR topics:

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14 posted on 12/19/2004 5:45:20 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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15 posted on 11/12/2005 9:09:29 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated my FR profile on Wednesday, November 2, 2005.)
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16 posted on 11/18/2008 7:16:29 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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