Tomb May Shed Light On 10th Plague

Boston Globe ^ | 11-23-2004 | Charles M. Sennott

[blam]

Tomb may shed light on 10th plague

By Charles M. Sennott, Globe Staff | November 23, 2004

LUXOR, Egypt — Out of the blinding light of a fall morning here in the Valley of the Kings, American archeologist Kent Weeks led the way down a narrow, stone passageway and into the entrance of a tomb.

Weeks peered his flashlight into the enveloping darkness of ‘‘the hidden tomb,’’ as he calls it, and pressed on through the damp, winding passages toward what may be his archeological team’s most significant find after years of methodical digging, scraping, and brushing.

At the end of a long hallway a human skull rested, propped up in a wooden box, and framed in the bleak light of a bare bulb powered by a generator that rumbled through the stony silence of the tomb.

This skull — Weeks believes, and new scientific evidence suggests — may be that of the oldest son of Rameses II, the pharaoh who most historians agree was the ruler of ancient Egypt more than 3,000 years ago at the time of the biblical story of the Exodus.

[ValerieUSA]

I met the author online

You have to be careful --- you can meet some real kooks online. Some of them even have red hair.

[MeneMeneTekelUpharsin]

Bump for later read.

[hopespringseternal]

It's just how I picture God working.

The problem with consigning God to this role is that you quickly have to leave the pages of the bible to support this view, and at that point why bother to explain it anyway since you have just discredited your source?

Miracles as found in the bible aren't merely unlikely natural processes, they are supernatural. Some have the appearance of nature, but when you study the ten plagues of Egypt you find that natural appearance is just a direct challenge to the gods of the Egyptions. For example, the river turning to blood shows the power of God over that of the god of the Nile.

[Dog Gone]

The date of the exodus is set in the biblical account. And we know from extensive historical records that it was during Egypt's Golden Age.

It's not that there's a lack of documentation during the period. It's just that there's no documentation of the Jews being slaves in Egypt or them leaving or any plagues or the Egyptian army being wiped out in the Red Sea.

The Egyptians kept meticulous records which included defeats in battle and crop failures, so it seems unlikely that they wouldn't have documented the biggest crisis in all of their history.

I suppose all evidence of the Jews being in Egypt could have been miraculously removed, but you'd have to ask for what purpose.

The problem with my position is that it casts doubt on the literal reading of the oldest books of the bible which makes the vast majority of Christians uncomfortable. Heck, it makes me uncomfortable, but when you objectively look at the actual evidence it's hard to reach any other conclusion.

I believe there was an exodus and that it was associated with the volcanic eruption at Santorini which was a monumental event in that part of the world. It certainly corresponds with the timeframe and it explains the pillar of fire at night and pillar of cloud by day that guided the Jews to Canaan.

However, the direction of that volcano as a guiding beacon doesn't make sense from an Egyptian starting point. It does from Mesopotamia.

[SunkenCiv]

:') Hey, quit braggin'. I'm at least as kooky as you.

[Prost1]

It is believed that the lines on the Spinx are due to water erosion. There is also a channel to the Pyramid and an ancient boat was discovered buried. There are indications of a harbor.

[SunkenCiv]

's true, the erosion on the Sphinx is generally attributed to water erosion -- now, because of Robert Schoch's work on it -- but the way the erosion occurred is a much-debated issue (if a deadlock is considered a debate ;').

Rainer Stadelmann concluded a couple of years ago (published paper, ref journal) that the facial features on the Sphinx are not those of Khafre, but of Khufu, builder of the Great Pyramid. Throughout my life I'd always wondered how anyone could look at the Sphinx and the statues of Khafre and consider any resemblance whatsoever. Stadelmann's work does not stem from that of Schoch, or his (former?) associate John Anthony West (JAW transformed himself into an anti-Bush fanatic, so I dropped his newsletter), and obviously doesn't suggest that the Sphinx / pyramids are 10,000 years old or whatnot.

The records cited in favor of a pre-pyramids dating of the Sphinx date from the New Kingdom, and (like a number of others) are copies of Old Kingdom originals no longer extant. One remarks that Khufu made repairs to the Sphinx, an event difficult to explain if it had not yet been built.

My own view is that the Sphinx had some sort of existence before the pyramids (not however going back 12,000 years) and follow Schoch who showed it was constructed at the same time as one or two of the oddball megalithic style temples often attributed to a New Kingdom pharaoh. How the face of the Sphinx can match that of Khufu is difficult to explain, as there was (not long ago) only one known image of his face, a small figurine that can be held in one hand. A monumental statue fragment found, hmm, circa 20 years ago has more recently been identified as Khufu's, but obviously has an uncertain attribution, and furthermore, doesn't resemble the Sphinx' face.

IMHO, the head was recarved (that is also Schoch's view), probably during the Ethiopian dynasty (best known pharaoh being Tirhaka), which explains the black African features of the face, and the fact that the head is out of scale with the body. Probably the statue had lost most of its head over the centuries, and so there was much less stone to be recarved.

Here's a video source:

Mysteries of the Sphinx (video, Charleton Heston)
http://www.bcvideo.com/ordermom13.html

[Prost1]

Zecharia Stitchen belives there is a 12th Planet (also the name of one of his books). He believes that humans are the result of genetic engineering by a race of people from the 12th planet. He is an expert and authority on Sumarian script and language.

Immanuel Velikovsky was a russian jewish professor (I forger; history or literature) and developed cosmic theories of planetary chaos where Mars and Venus were not where they are today but Mars was a wanderer and created chaos is the heavens. Carl Sagan notoriously dismissed Velikovsky when astromers believed Venus to be cold and icy and Velikovsky said it would be hot. It has been determined to be hot. Carl Sagan never appologized.

Look him up. Interesting reading on the closed minded society that exists among the elite Professors and intellectuals advising government.
see the link for more info;

http://knowledge.co.uk/velikovsky/

[N. Theknow]

Tomb May Shed Light On 10th Plague

Weeks peered his flashlight into the enveloping darkness of ‘‘the hidden tomb,’’ as he calls it, and pressed on through the damp, winding passages toward what may be his archeological team’s most significant find after years of methodical digging, scraping, and brushing.

And there on the wall....the evidence was made clear for the world to see, the words scrawled: Hillary 2008.

[Prost1]

Many believe the Sphinx to be a Dog and was built to reflect the alignment of the Great Pyramid with the Dog Star Thubin.

Others came and mutilated the face.

[streetpreacher]

At the end of a long hallway a human skull rested, propped up in a wooden box, and framed in the bleak light of a bare bulb powered by a generator that rumbled through the stony silence of the tomb.

It's a good thing Ramses thought to put in that bulb and generator, otherwise we might never have found it!

[Prost1]

The Dog Star is Sirius...Thubin as a prior Pole Star.

[SunkenCiv]

Here's a Wayback Machine version of somethin' kinda nutty (reduced here to 500 pixel width, image is actually larger):

[Chani]

ooooo sounds like a wonderful movie plot...... or has it been done? ;)

[Phsstpok]

or has it been done?

Of course it's been done. Haven't you ever heard the old expression, there are only 4 basic plots:

Boy Meets Girl
Boy Loses Girl
Boy conquers world
10th plague gets loose again

there are no new plots.

[Chani]

LOL! I knew that! :)

[ScoochDude]

Their sisters

[SunkenCiv]

Huh, that URL vanished, probably from too much bandwidth. Here's the other links which still work:

http://web.archive.org/web/20010630202838/http://sphinxtemple.virtualave.net/images/HalfSection.gif

http://web.archive.org/web/20010906101209/http://sphinxtemple.virtualave.net/images/HalfSection.gif

http://web.archive.org/web/20020103094459/http://sphinxtemple.virtualave.net/images/HalfSection.gif

Also, other graphics from the same site:

http://web.archive.org/web/20011030154801/sphinxtemple.virtualave.net/images/westelevation.gif

http://web.archive.org/web/20010906103112/sphinxtemple.virtualave.net/images/HalfSection2.gif

[SunkenCiv]

PROBLEMS WITH MT. SINAI IN SAUDI ARABIA
Compiled by Brad Sparks
http://www.ldolphin.org/sinai.html

A diagnosis for a biblical plague?
Tomb could hold clue to Moses legend
By Charles M. Sennott
The Boston Globe
WEDNESDAY
May 18, 2005
Article Last Updated: 11/26/2004 11:47:21 PM
http://www.sltrib.com/faith/ci_2475207

[SunkenCiv]

related topic:

Theban Mapping Project (Valley of the Kings etc)
Theban Mapping Project | 1980s to present | Kent Weeks et al
Posted on 01/13/2005 8:03:55 PM PST by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1320504/posts