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Supernova Storm Wiped Out Mammoths?
Discovery News ^ | Sept. 28, 2005 | Jennifer Viegas

Posted on 10/17/2005 8:57:32 AM PDT by Fzob

Sept. 28, 2005— A supernova blast 41,000 years ago started a deadly chain of events that led to the extinction of mammoths and other animals in North America, according to two scientists.

If their supernova theory gains acceptance, it could explain why dozens of species on the continent became extinct 13,000 years ago.

Mammoths and mastodons, both relatives of today's elephants, mysteriously died out then, as did giant ground sloths, a large-horned bison, a huge species of armadillo, saber-toothed cats, and many other animals and plants.

Richard Firestone, a nuclear scientist at the U.S. Department of Energy's Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, who formulated the theory with geologist Allen West, told Discovery News that a key piece of evidence for the supernova is a set of 34,000-year-old mammoth tusks riddled with tiny craters.

The researchers believe that in the sequence of events following the supernova, first, the iron-rich grains emitted from the explosion shot into the tusks. Whatever caused the craters had to have been traveling around 6,214 miles per second, and no other natural phenomenon explains the damage, they said.

They think the supernova exploded 250 light-years away from Earth, which would account for the 7,000-year delay before the tusk grain pelting. It would have taken that long for the supernova materials to have showered to Earth.

Then, 21,000 years after that event, the researchers believe a comet-like formation from the supernova's debris blew over North America and wreaked havoc.

Firestone said they think the formation created superheated hurricanal winds in the atmosphere that rolled across North America at 400 kilometers per hour (about 249 mph).

"The comet (-like event) was followed by a barrage of hot particles. If that didn't kill all of the large animals, then the immediate climate changes must have," said Firestone.

Firestone said smaller animals could have sought shelter more readily, by going into caves or underground.

The findings were presented at last weekend's "World of Elephants" international conference in Hot Springs, S.D.

In addition to the tusk evidence, the scientists said arrowheads from North America's prehistoric Clovis culture, which went extinct around 13,500-13,000 years ago, Icelandic marine sediment, as well as sediment from nine 13,000-year-old sites in North America, contain higher-than-normal amounts of radiation in the form of potassium-40 levels.

Potassium-40 is a radioactive isotope, meaning a molecule that emits radiation.

Magnetic particles also were unearthed at the sites. Analysis of these particles revealed they are rich in titanium, iron, manganese, vanadium, rare-earth elements, thorium and uranium.

These elements all are common in moon rocks and lunar meteorites, so the researchers think the materials provide additional evidence that North America was bombarded 13,000 years ago by material originating from space.

Luann Becker, a University of California at Santa Barbara geologist, told Discovery News she was not surprised by the new supernova theory, since extinction events have been linked to similar comet or asteroid impacts before.

"What is exciting about Dr. Firestone's theory is that it can be easily tested," Becker said, and indicated she hopes future research will yield additional clues from North American and other sediment layers.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: archaeology; catastrophism; clovis; clovisimpact; crevolist; current; extinction; godsgravesglyphs; history; impact; science; supernova
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To: KarlInOhio
Which is more believable, all the large North American mammals were killed by a quarter milligram per square meter of material spread out over years, or the arrival of humans on the continent?

You are absolutely right, and your example requires a star 10 times bigger than our sun.

Large brained humans hunted these animals for food, as humans propagated the numbers of these large animals diminished. Another good reason these animals were hunted was to keep their numbers down for safety, they were way too big for humans to peacefully co-exist with them.
101 posted on 08/20/2006 3:09:35 PM PDT by lmr (You can have my Tactical Nuclear Weapons when you pry them from my cold dead fingers.)
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To: MHGinTN
You make a false assumption, that the material of the star would be evenly ejected and have no clumping.

There wouldn't be any clumping at all. Imagine a Fusion Nuclear blast 10 times the scale of our sun. The blast wave would eject the particles in an even manner and disperse them quickly. Even if there was 'clumping', that would be diminished quickly in our atmosphere unless the 'clumps' were very large to make them asteroid size which would be even more catastrophic than even what this article is suggesting.

Type la supernovae would be the most dangerous if close enough to the earth because they arise from dim (almost black) white dwarf stars. For there to be any effect on the earth they would have to happen fairly close to the earth. 25-50 light years away. At that distance, they may deplete the ozone layer, but would even need to be closer than that for higher radiation and particle bombardment on the scale that this article is suggesting.
102 posted on 08/20/2006 3:29:18 PM PDT by lmr (You can have my Tactical Nuclear Weapons when you pry them from my cold dead fingers.)
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To: Fzob

I hope it took out Ray Romano's irritating voice, too.


103 posted on 08/20/2006 3:30:41 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (I LIKE you! When I am Ruler of Earth, yours will be a quick and painless death)
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To: Dr. I. C. Spots
Actually the fossil record doesn't show anything because the dating techniques that are used are unreliable.

Please post peer-reviewed scientific challenges to modern dating methods.

Although they are still used as a bit rough, they are pretty accurate in terms of magnitude.

104 posted on 08/20/2006 3:35:21 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (I LIKE you! When I am Ruler of Earth, yours will be a quick and painless death)
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To: lmr

I was thinking more of plasma 'clumping' ... thanks for the ping.


105 posted on 08/20/2006 6:02:23 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Fzob

Interesting!


106 posted on 08/20/2006 6:04:14 PM PDT by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic instructions before leaving earth)
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The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes: Flood, Fire, and Famine in the History of Civilization The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes:
Flood, Fire, and Famine in
the History of Civilization

by Richard Firestone,
Allen West,
Simon Warwick-Smith


107 posted on 06/10/2007 9:28:23 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated June 8, 2007.)
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To: 75thOVI; AFPhys; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aristotleman; Avoiding_Sulla; BenLurkin; Berosus; ...

here’s a topic from a few years ago, plus this link to a closed, old-style FR topic:

The Mammoths Demise
Source: discovering archaelogy
Published: 02/27/01 Author: Editors of Discovering Archaelogy
Posted on 03/20/2001 11:59:27 PST by Ada Coddington
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3ab7b69f5baa.htm


108 posted on 08/17/2007 11:00:37 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Friday, August 17, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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just an update:
 
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109 posted on 08/17/2007 11:06:35 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Friday, August 17, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Fzob

Through time bad things seem to happen. We’ve been so luck in the last 10,000 years or so tat we are having to invent disasters.


110 posted on 08/18/2007 7:33:47 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Democrat Happens!)
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111 posted on 07/18/2010 6:11:04 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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