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JIM ROBINSON AS THE NEW JOSEPH FARAH - STABBING THE CONSERVATIVE MOVEMENT IN THE BACK [Re:Giuliani]
On one the few rational minds left around here - but for long | 4/24/2007 | Al Simmons

Posted on 04/24/2007 10:22:39 AM PDT by Al Simmons

About me:

Lurker - since 1998

Member - since 1999

In self-imposed exile - since April 2007

The tone of the debate and the attacks on long-time fellow Freepers for the cardinal sin of daring to support Rudy Giuliani in early 2007 around here have really saddened me. Instead of fighting the enemy FR is now imposing an 'ideological purity' test on FR members. The well-oiled train has gone off the rails and Mr. Robinson risks becoming the next Joe Farah - a fellow who started a great website for conservative news and opinions, but who gradually drifted off to la-la land, losing all credibility - and readership - in the process.

He has set himself squarely in the Internet media spotlight, doused himself with gasoline, and and lighted himself on fire - a fact that has not escaped the attention of the left-wing lunatics at Daily Kos. Their reporting on what has been going on at FR is perhaps the first factually true account published on their site.

Jim, if that quote of yours about setting up an organization to 'Swiftboat Rudy' is accurate as quoted in their article, the only thing I have to say to you is that you ought to be ashamed of yourself, as you have now become the back-stabber of the conservative cause.

If you wish to marginalize this site by turning it into a narrow "several-issue" forum, that is your right. Just as it is my right to choose to not participate here any longer.

But you will be disappointed if you think that the crude, illiterate "goon squad" you have allowed free rein around here (dmw, narses, dirtboy, extremely extreme extremist, ReaganMan and several others - if I have slighted anyone, please email me if you want onto this list) will elevate the level of intellectual debate.

The result has been predictably in the other direction. That is what happens when you hire a bunch of brown shirts to enforce your own brand of political correctness.

Well, guess what? Politics is 99% BS and one can quite nicely live one's life without the need to bloviate about it. I know how I am going to vote. I could care less about anyone else. Life is too short to waste my time around here when I am clearly one of those made to feel like they are not welcome.

So, go ahead Jim -

MAKE MY DAY. BAN ME. I DARE YOU.


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To: PsyOp

In fairness to Hannity, he’s a New Yorker, and New Yorkers have a bias toward Rudy. It’s understandable. McCain is unacceptable, and the minor candidates are going nowhere, so if you want to show favoritism toward any declared candidate, your choices are Rudy or Romney.


741 posted on 05/18/2007 1:33:42 AM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charley the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: restornu

“You been flush out ...”

Huh?

Thanks for your thoughtful comment. Not.


742 posted on 05/18/2007 1:35:16 AM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charley the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: California Patriot

There’s been a defacto armistice over the past week or so. Go with it. We’ll be back later, spam and malice-free.

Bigger things on the table right now.


743 posted on 05/18/2007 1:35:33 AM PDT by IslandJeff (Who the hell are we gonna nuke!?)
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To: Al Simmons
In self-imposed exile - since April 2007

Apparently this isn't really true, now is it?

744 posted on 05/18/2007 1:37:03 AM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: California Patriot
“And yes, “crude” and “illiterate,” as well as “goon squad,” are appropriate terms for some of the anti-Rudy people on FReep”

I have no interest in Rudy. Does that make ME a bad person?

745 posted on 05/18/2007 1:42:01 AM PDT by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava, Slovakia)
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To: California Patriot

Al Simmons is this your alter ego California Patriot?


746 posted on 05/18/2007 1:47:48 AM PDT by restornu (Calling Illegals, Immigrants, is like calling Shoplifters, Customers ~ Jerry Agar "Go Mitt":)
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To: Al Simmons

Al sleeps with the fishes.


747 posted on 05/18/2007 2:01:49 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: California Patriot

Goldwater may not have approved of the anti rudi comments, as you say, but neither would he have approved of most of Rudi’s positions and willingness to compromise his “principles”.

Further, Duncan Hunter has been steadily moving up in the polls. The other day Hannity was touting Rudy and Romni and McCain their “strong responses” to the torture question in the debate. The only strong, unequivocal answer from anyone in that debate came from Duncan Hunter and Sean refused to even mention it.

Everywhere Duncan goes to speak he picks up votes. If Hannity and Rush and the other national talk show hosts would give him the time of day he’d soon be blasting past the RINO triad. After all, the election is a year and half out, so there is plenty of time if he’s given a chance to talk to the American people.

Of the front three, the only one I would consider voting for is Romni.


748 posted on 05/18/2007 9:16:35 AM PDT by PsyOp (The right of war involves killing the vanquished. - Rousseau, The Social Contract. 1762.)
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To: restornu

No. I don’t know who Al Simmons is. But I like what he’s saying, even if I would have said it a bit differently.

You people should really stop making huge assumptions about FReepers you disagree with. It makes you look stupid and nasty.


749 posted on 05/18/2007 12:20:17 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charley the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: PsyOp

Your response about Goldwater is correct.

I like Hunter too, though I’m really a Newt guy, I’ve decided. Hunter can definitely play an important role in the race. His best bet for doing this, and getting more attention from Sean, Rush, et al, is to grab some headlines.


750 posted on 05/18/2007 12:24:28 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charley the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: AlexW

“I have no interest in Rudy. Does that make me a bad person?”

No, absolutely not, and I never suggested this. I said some of the anti-Rudy people are awful, not all.

And let me add: I’m losing interest in Rudy and leaning toward Newt, although I’ll continue to defend Rudy when warranted.


751 posted on 05/18/2007 12:27:04 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charley the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: IslandJeff

Sounds good to me.


752 posted on 05/18/2007 12:28:02 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charley the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: California Patriot
You people should really stop making huge assumptions about FReepers you disagree with...

excuse me it was you who has all these imput CP many of us in the pass have had dealings with Al Simmons who no longer is here!

By the way when you talk about some one you should ping them too

753 posted on 05/18/2007 12:37:25 PM PDT by restornu (Calling Illegals, Immigrants, is like calling Shoplifters, Customers ~ Jerry Agar ~ "Romney 08":)
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To: Al Simmons
Its real simple Al. JR became Ill from all of the cheer leading and dishonesty from Guliani supporters. I will never vote for the likes of Guliani and nor will many conservatives so it was time someone within the conservative movement through down the gauntlet and said enough. But back to my original point of dishonesty. Guliani supporters were using this site to propagandize their candidate and were ganging up and shredding folks trying to shine the light into their smoke filled room.
I cheered when JR said “enough” I’m still cheering.

C’Mon Fred!

754 posted on 05/19/2007 6:28:33 AM PDT by liberty or death
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To: liberty or death

Through should be threw.


755 posted on 05/19/2007 6:29:43 AM PDT by liberty or death
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To: Al Simmons

I’m honestly having trouble understanding how a Rudy supporter would make the mistake of thinking he has common cause with people who care about liberty, the Constitution, and the protection of life. If you were supporting Hillary, would you be crying the blues that no one is patting you on the back here? There IS NO DIFFERENCE between Rudy and Hillary or Obama. They all hate the 2nd amendment. They all would all cheer the ascendancy of degenerate New York social values in the red states. They are all creatures of the state.


756 posted on 05/19/2007 10:48:48 PM PDT by farmer18th
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To: liberty or death
Guliani supporters were using this site to propagandize their candidate I think the same can be said for some other candidates' supporters too. Any serious candidate seeking to court conservative voters would be wise to have some of their volunteers networked into freerepublic.com in order to get there message out to this large grassroots network of self-described conservatives. Now about Rudy Guiliani and whether he is liberal/conservative ..... I don't think it matters what Jim Robinson thinks. What matters is what Guiliani's record/views are.
757 posted on 05/19/2007 11:00:39 PM PDT by Degaston
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To: Al Simmons
you have now become the back-stabber of the conservative cause

Let's get something straight. Rudy is the back-stabber, the Benedict Arnold. The sooner someone swift-boats him, the better off we will all be.
758 posted on 05/19/2007 11:05:41 PM PDT by farmer18th
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To: Al Simmons
LOL you are a nut case, sorry but this is not your forum. And Jim Robinson can run it any way he likes, including make the decision on what Free Republic stands for.

Jim Robinson has made it very clear how he and many of us feel about a Rhino, a Rudy in the White House. Only someone that is NOT a conservative would be for Rudy.IMO

759 posted on 05/19/2007 11:19:51 PM PDT by Brandie (I am for Duncan Hunter but then I am a Conservative.)
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To: Al Simmons

Hey, Al!

Screw Giuliani and the horse he rode in on.

DH08


760 posted on 05/20/2007 5:28:40 AM PDT by Nasty McPhilthy (Those who beat their swords into plow shears will plow for those who don't.)
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