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The Paleolithic Diet and Its Modern Implications
Chet Day ^ | Unknown | An Interview with Loren Cordain

Posted on 03/07/2002 6:16:05 PM PST by Pharmboy

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The Paleolithic Diet and Its Modern Implications

An Interview with Loren Cordain, PhD

by Robert Crayhon, MS
Reprinted by permission from Life Services

Can hundreds of thousands of years of human evolution be wrong? What are we really "designed" to eat? Are high carbohydrate "Food Pyramid" diet standards a health disaster? What do paleolithic fossil records and ethnographic studies of 180 hunter/gatherer groups around the world suggest as the ideal human diet? Find out in nationally acclaimed author and nutritionist Robert Crayhon's interview with paleolithic diet expert, Professor Loren Cordain, Ph.D.

Robert Crayhon, M.S. is a clinician, researcher and educator who was called "one of the top ten nutritionists in the country" by Self magazine (August 1993). An associate editor of Total Health magazine, he is the author of best-seller Robert Crayhon's Nutrition Made Simple and the just published The Carnitine Miracle (M. Evans and Company).

Dr. Loren Cordain is a professor of exercise physiology at Colorado State University in Ft. Collins, Colorado, and is a reknowned expert in the area of Paleolithic nutrition.

Robert Crayhon: I'm very happy to welcome Dr. Loren Cordain. He is a professor of exercise physiology at Colorado State University in Ft. Collins, Colorado, and an expert in the area of Paleolithic nutrition. Dr. Cordain, welcome.

Loren Cordain: My pleasure to be here.

Robert Crayhon: There has been in the past 40 years or so much interest in the area of low fat diets, and it seems that the media and USDA with its food guide pyramid is now convinced that a healthy diet is one that is predominantly carbohydrate, low in fat and protein. There is also little regard for the quality of the fat or protein. But are we really just in some great agricultural experiment? Has the last 10,000 years of agriculture really been the bulk of what the human nutritional experience has been? And is this grain-based, high carbohydrate diet truly ideal for humans?

Loren Cordain: There is increasing evidence to indicate that the type of diet recommended in the USDA's food pyramid is discordant with the type of diet humans evolved with over eons of evolutionary experience. Additionally, it is increasingly being recognized that the "food Pyramid" may have a number of serious nutritional omissions. For instance, it does not specify which types of fats should be consumed. The western diet is overburdened not only by saturated fats, but there is an imbalance in the type of polyunsaturated fats we eat. We consume too many Omega-6 fats and not enough Omega-3 fats. The Omega-6/Omega-3 ratio in western diets averages about 12:1, whereas data from our recent publication (Eaton SB, Eaton SB 3rd, Sinclair AJ, Cordain L, Mann NJ Dietary intake of long-chain polyunsaturated fatty acids during the Paleolithic Period. World Rev Nutr Diet 1998; 12-23) suggests that for most of humanity's existence, prior to agriculture, the Omega-6/Omega-3 ratio would have ranged from 1:1 to 3:1. High dietary Omega-6/Omega-3 ratios are associated with increased risk for cardiovascular disease, some types of cancer, and tend to exacerbate many inflammatory disease responses.

Further, the USDA food pyramid places breads, cereals, rice and pasta at its base and recommends that we consume 6-11 servings of these items daily. Nutritionists at the Harvard School of Public Health (Willett WC. The dietary pyramid: does the foundation need repair? Am J Clin Nutr. 1998;68: 218-219) have recently publicly criticized this recommendation because it fails to distinguish between refined and complex carbohydrates and their relative glycemic responses. Dr. Willett further pointed out that there was little empirical evidence to support the dominant nutritional message that diets high in complex carbohydrate promote good health.

Both the fossil record and ethnological studies of hunter-gatherers (the closest surrogates we have to stone age humans) indicate that humans rarely if ever ate cereal grains nor did they eat diets high in carbohydrates. Because cereal grains are virtually indigestible by the human gastrointestinal tract without milling (grinding) and cooking, the appearance of grinding stones in the fossil record generally heralds the inclusion of grains in the diet. The first appearance of milling stones was in the Middle East roughly 10-15,000 years ago. These early milling stones were likely used to grind wild wheat which grew naturally in certain areas of the Middle East. Wheat was first domesticated in the Middle East about 10,000 years ago and slowly spread to Europe by about 5,000 years ago. Rice was domesticated approximately 7,000 years ago in SE Asia, India and China, and maize (corn) was domesticated in Mexico and Central America roughly 7,000 years ago.

Consequently, diets high in carbohydrate derived from cereal grains were not part of the human evolutionary experience until only quite recent times. Because the human genome has changed relatively little in the past 40,000 years since the appearance of behaviorally modern humans, our nutritional requirements remain almost identical to those requirements which were originally selected for stone age humans living before the advent of agriculture.

Robert Crayhon: What happened to our health when we switched from a hunter-gatherer diet to a grain-based one?

Loren Cordain: The fossil record indicates that early farmers, compared to their hunter-gatherer predecessors had a characteristic reduction in stature, an increase in infant mortality, a reduction in life span, an increased incidence of infectious diseases, an increase in iron deficiency anemia, an increased incidence of osteomalacia, porotic hyperostosis and other bone mineral disorders and an increase in the number of dental caries and enamel defects. Early agriculture did not bring about increases in health, but rather the opposite. It has only been in the past 100 years or so with the advent of high tech, mechanized farming and animal husbandry that the trend has changed.

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To: Pharmboy
Can hundreds of thousands of years of human evolution be wrong? What are we really "designed" to eat?

You don't need to be an evo-loser to comprehend that Elaine Morgan is almost certainly correct in thinking that modern humans originally lived in water.

The original human diet was some combination of fish, shellfish, and fruit which they went up on shore for.

101 posted on 10/08/2006 8:54:33 PM PDT by tomzz
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To: Pharmboy
I have read that they had a form of Soylent Green way back then.
102 posted on 10/08/2006 9:11:23 PM PDT by razorback-bert (I met Bill Clinton once but he didn’t really talk — he was hitting on my wife)
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To: Pharmboy

http://www.amazon.com/Win-War-Within-Clinically-Inflamation-/dp/1594863172/ref=sr_11_1/102-7912886-0456107?ie=UTF8

Got this book yesterday. About this very subject, by Johns Hopkins dept. head. Speaks of neolithic hunter-gatherer diet, "AA Pathway," etc. I will post excerpts tomorrow...quite amazing research and conclusions.

He recommends EPA Omega 3 WITH GLA from Borage Oil, says it short-circuits inflammation key in diabetes, arthritis, heart disease, allergies, even obesity.....says modern recommended diet is 100% WRONG. Advises to avoid refined carbs, eat lean meat, green vegs....promises noticeable relief from such conditions within 10 days or so.

Quite amazing, sound research...rather compelling...at least to Dr. Muttly (played one on stage in 5th. grade, to rave reviews!)


103 posted on 10/08/2006 11:43:56 PM PDT by PoorMuttly ("Character is Destiny" -- Heraclitus)
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To: All

To quote a radio program statement by the late Carleton Fredericks, Chief of Nutrition at Cornell University:

"If you want to be really healthy, eat the entire animal, nose to tail."


104 posted on 10/08/2006 11:52:01 PM PDT by PoorMuttly ("Character is Destiny" -- Heraclitus)
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To: PoorMuttly

Have many, many Rodale published books. Might buy this one.

Have taken Borage Oil for years. What does the book say it helps?


105 posted on 10/09/2006 5:05:28 AM PDT by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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To: Myrddin

tx for wake-up call on this article and site from which it comes


106 posted on 10/09/2006 5:15:52 AM PDT by 1234 (WHO is Responsible for ENFORCING IMMIGRATION LAWS?)
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To: tomzz
The original human diet was some combination of fish, shellfish, and fruit which they went up on shore for. You're making me crave sashimi.
107 posted on 10/09/2006 5:30:54 AM PDT by Renfield
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To: Pharmboy

Anecdotal evidence--I think there really is value to increasing the amount of Omega-3 fatty acids in our diet. After seeing a dermatologist on Maryland Public TV explaining the importance of Omega-3, I started taking lots of fish-oil capsules (4-6 capsules/day), and my allergy problems (something I have struggled with all my life) have pretty much gone away!

I'm trying to work myself into a caveman diet. I already eat venison about 3 times a week, and lots of fish too.


108 posted on 10/09/2006 5:36:44 AM PDT by Renfield
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To: SamAdams76

"I agree with your way of thinking. The life expectancy of humans has increased enormously since switching to a carbohydrate-based diet. Granted, some of that increase can be attributed to better medical care and hygiene. But as you point out, the Asians, who eat mostly rice have very long lifespans. As do Italians who eat lots of breads, wines and pastas."

I would tend to disagree that carbohydrates - or the carbs that our country consumes - are the key to long life.

Asians eat a wholly dissimilar diet than we do, while it's based on rice, it also lacked the sugar and white, bleached wheat of ours. They eat more vegetables, eat more protein, especially from shellfish and fish, and most westerners find the diet very bland or too spicy for their palate.

Italians are the same - lots of good fats, like olive oil, lots of vegetables, meats, fish, and wine. Their diet is not pasta based, that's an American idea.

The American diet is loaded up with cane sugar, fructose syrup, white bleached flour (essentially nutrient-free - they have to advertise on white bread that they ADD nutrients) and bad trans-fats. We DO NOT eat the same carbs as the Asians or Italians, and to compare us to them is hilarious. Our palate in the US is so overloaded by carbs and sugars it's scary.

I tend to think the longer life expectancy is due more to better healthcare, medicine, easier lifestyles, more access to minerals and vitamins and nutrients (which we now avoid as a culture and favor manufactured foods), and our sedentary lifestyles (as compared to the always active hunter/gatherer). We also don't fight wild animals with sticks, and if we break a bone, get an infection, or develop pnuemonia, we just go see the doctor. We can cure some forms of cancer, and operate to repair or fix our problems. The cavemen had none of this.

They also had no pollution, toxic waste or any of the other nasties we do, yet they lived shorter lives - one could also use your logic and say pollution makes us live longer.

To say carbs make us live longer is quite amusing, and I'd love to see the science to back that up - especially since our carb and sugar based diet is causing diabetes and obesity and the diseases that it causes to skyrocket into staggering numbers.

It also depends on what you define as a carb, and what carbs we're talking about - not all carbs are bad. You also need to put the diet you're talking about into a context, in other words lifestyle and culture, and genetic background. Asians I know who tried Atkins did horribly, and it made them ill to consume the large amounts of protein in that diet, but everyone I know who's of Western European stock does remarkably well. '

Anyway, before I stray too far from the point, I think saying carbs are the answer to long life is entirely too simplistic and wildly naive in the face of the data we have. It strikes me as a rationalization to consume carbs - hey, if you want them, eat them, but don't try to sell them like the snake oil salesmen of old.


109 posted on 10/09/2006 8:16:03 AM PDT by ByDesign
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To: Pharmboy

My ancestors were Inuit. I HATE whale blubber! :(


110 posted on 10/09/2006 10:11:21 AM PDT by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: Miss Marple
Eat MEAT!
It's what is, and was, for dinner.
111 posted on 10/09/2006 10:15:19 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Dustbunny; All

First...BE CAREFUL !!!!!!

Pg.120, paraphrased:

"GLA (....as found in Borage oil) is transformed into DGLA, but, as I just noted, that's not the only fatty acid it can form. In fact, GLA is actually delivering two separate streams into two different buckets. One...GLA delivered to your inflammatory cells; ...the other to your liver. The GLA delivered to inflammatory cells is converted to friendly DGLA. The GLA to your liver is converted to AA -- the exact thing we're trying to avoid!

...So taking too much GLA can actually put you at risk for a cardiac event. They don't tell you that at the health-food store!"

He says that GLA should be taken with OMEGA-3 EPA.

"this also makes a lot of sense in terms of the hunter-gatherer diet. In addition to fruits, nuts, legumes, roots, and other non-cereals, early man ate a great deal of shellfish, which contains high levels of EPA. That's why the hunter-gatherer diet is estimated to have had an Omega-6 to Omega-3 fatty-acid ratio of 1:1, as opposed to the ratio of 20:1 found in most American diets today. From an evolutionary perspective, it makes perfect sense that we'd need to have a combination of GLA and EPA for our immune system to work properly.

Let me spell this out. Hunter-gatherers would have gotten the LA they needed from the animals they hunted for food: the GLA..from the nuts, legumes, and roots they gathered: the EPA from the shellfish they ate. Because the animals they ate were much lower in fat, as venison and other game meats are today, they would have gotten very little AA from their diets. In other words, hunter-gatherers were getting a near-perfect balance of polyunsaturated fatty acids for the optimal operation of their immune systems, by simply eating what was available to them. By contrast, the meat and fish we eat today are loaded with AA and LA, and we get very little GLA and EPA from our diets."

The AA is the stuff which causes inflammation. He has a list of foods to avoid, like farm-raised fish, such as salmon, and to also avoid egg yolks. He favors LEAN beef and lamb, and recommends supplimentation with Omega-3 fish oil and GLA-containing Borage Oil, and to NEVER take GLA without Omega-3.

These folks sent me the offer for this book:

http://www.puritan.com/


112 posted on 10/09/2006 10:28:17 AM PDT by PoorMuttly ("Character is Destiny" -- Heraclitus)
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To: Pharmboy

Don't you find it at least interesting that as humans gave up their paleolithic diet, their civilization became much more complex? First agriculture, then architecture, the making of clay pots (which were used for, not only cooking and storing food, but chamber pots), writing, mathematics, and indoor plumbing?

In contrast, hunters and gatherers lived in huts, where the chief occupation of the males was killing each other and stealing each other's women, and the chief occupation of women, when they weren't busy being stolen, was frantically attempting to gather as many roots and berries and insects and baby birds as they could so everybody wouldn't starve to death?

The image of "man the mighty hunter" is belied by dietary studies of hunter-gatherer cultures throughout the world. Men brought home the wild meat from time to time but women brought home the calories, protein, carbohydrates, fat, every day.


113 posted on 10/09/2006 10:36:05 AM PDT by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: Pistias

If we all tried to survive on wild meat, after we killed off all the game, we'd all die. Well, most of us.

Which is one of the main reasons that purely hunter-gatherer cultures tend(ed) to live in small, isolated tribes.


114 posted on 10/09/2006 10:39:22 AM PDT by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: CobaltBlue
You are correct on all counts, with a slight modification by me. Studies have shown that women are consistently responsible for bringing in about 65% of the total calories that tribals eat; the men do bring in the high quality protein, however.

And, people could only build civilizations once they stayed in one spot--agriculture allowed them just that.

115 posted on 10/09/2006 11:01:29 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Every single day provides at least one new reason to hate the mainstream media...)
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping to check out at home!


116 posted on 10/09/2006 2:50:51 PM PDT by Eaker (Dix, TexasCowboy and Flyer all now live in the next best place to Texas . .. Heaven)
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To: PoorMuttly
Thank you. Interesting.

I take the Borage Oil because it is higher in GLA than Evening Primrose Oil but I also take CLA (tonalin) which people used to get more of when their milk was whole and the cows, goats etc. were on pasture more than they are today.

117 posted on 10/09/2006 4:23:44 PM PDT by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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To: Pharmboy

http://www.amazon.com/Low-Carb-Bartender-Counts-Drinks/dp/1593372531/sr=1-2/qid=1160436472/ref=sr_1_2/002-4679689-2028806?ie=UTF8&s=books


118 posted on 10/09/2006 4:28:17 PM PDT by toddlintown (Six bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: Pharmboy

I just had a thick baloney sandwich and some green beans with fat back. Is that cave woman enough? Oh, and a couple of Reisen's candies for dessert.


119 posted on 10/09/2006 4:30:52 PM PDT by Twinkie (Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.)
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To: Twinkie

You savage, you.


120 posted on 10/09/2006 4:34:34 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Every single day provides at least one new reason to hate the mainstream media...)
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