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Islam & Lds, Muhammad & Joseph Smith: Similarities (+ Lds ecumenical nods toward Islam) [Vanity]
Colofornian | July 31, 2012 | Colofornian

Posted on 07/31/2012 6:31:13 PM PDT by Colofornian

Per the Feb. 7, 2012 Pakistan Independent (see first link below), "The current LDS First Presidency Statement of 1978 says specifically mentions Prophet Muhammad as one of ‘the great religious leaders of the world’ who received ‘a portion of God’s light….’”

It would appear, therefore, that the Muslim world might be "happy" with either an Obama re-election or Mitt Romney. And, hey, why not? Just look at all the "ecumenical" outreach attempts with Islam made by Mormon leaders in the "ecumenical" link section listed below.

For these past seven years, over a dozen Freepers have been faithful in posting the 25 articles linked below...several of these written by Mormon writers/sources -- and one thread below posted by a Mormon.

Detailed Similarities 'Tween Islam & Lds; 'Tween Muhammad & Joseph Smith

* Mormonism: What the Latter Day Saints think of Islam [Indicator of how Mitt perceives Islam?] [Pakistan Independent thread]
* Mitt Romney: "Islam is not an inherently violent faith" [My Note: With this kind of lack of Romney foreign policy discernment, expect MORE Romney foreign policy boo-boos like his comments in the UK @ Olympics]
* Islamic And Mormonism Similarities: Similarities Between Joseph Smith and Muhammad (Written by Brother Andrew, a pioneer missionary leader to typically "closed" countries re: the gospel)
* Islamic And Mormonism Similarities (Same content posted a year later on FR)
* Common Threads between Islam and Mormonism (posted by Freeper poster Kaslin and written by one with an Egyptian heritage)
* Common Threads between Islam and Mormonism (same thread as above -- posted by another FREEPER)
* Mormons and Muslims? How do you all see each other? [Written @ BYU source]
* A Latter-day Saint Perspective on Muhammad Mormon-(OPEN) [Written by a BYU prof and posted in official Lds church publication]
* Thoughts on Islam,” in Mormons and Muslims: Spiritual Foundations and Modern Manifestations
* Muslims and Latter-day Saints Mormon (OPEN) [article from a recognized Lds site]
* Bridges of faith between Mormons and Muslims
* (LDS)L.D.S. perspective on Islam (this is an earlier -- 2005 --FR thread citing a BYU prof who's been deemed a "leader" among Lds apologists)

Mormons and Muslim 'ecumenicalism':

* Mormons, Muslims break the fast in Southern California (Mormon "interfaith outreach)
* Muslims and Mormons share worship space in St Charles
* A Message of Friendship: Muslims and Latter-Day Saints [from a recognized Lds apologetics Web site]
* BYU Hawaii’s First Non-Mormon Student President Credits Mormons for Making Him a Better Muslim
* Muslims attending BYU focus on similarities between Islam, LDS tenets
* Mormons, Muslims get along by creating books, not destroying them [LDS OPEN]
* Major Islamic art exhibit being installed at BYU [Utah Mormon University]
* 'Beauty and Belief' - Acclaimed Islamic art exhibit at BYU [Mormon]
* Latter-day Saint Perspective on Muhammad (LDS/Muslim Caucus) (This was posted by a Mormon and was written by a BYU prof)

Mormonism's 'ecumenicalism' with Muslim jihadists even extends after death!

* Revealed: Mormons Baptized 9/11 Hijacker, made several attempts to Baptize Mohammed
* MSNBC: MORMONS BAPTIZED 9/11 HIJACKER: Will Mainstream Media destroy Romney over his Religion?

Terrorist parallels

* Twin Sept. 11 tragedies created tides of religious intolerance
* Mitt Romney’s Mormon faith tangles with a quirk of Arkansas history [Washington Post thread]


TOPICS: Ecumenism; Islam; Other Christian; Other non-Christian; Theology
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To: Tau Food
I can only read and retain this information about Mormonism in reasonable bites. Today, I followed your terrorism link regarding the Mountain Meadow Massacre. The Mormons placed such little value on human life. It seems that may logically follow from the rejection of Christianity.

Tau,
No matter how many times “Mountain Meadow Massacre” is talked about, it is the exception and not the rule. You do not have to agree with us, but I wish you would get some of you information about us from somewhere then from those who are not careful with reteaching our teachings.

21 posted on 07/31/2012 7:56:39 PM PDT by a22freeman
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To: Elsie

Questions put to Joseph Smith: “’Do you believe the Bible?’ [Smith:]’If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do’

Elsie,
Do you believe that the translation of the Bible is the only true translation, or do you believe that God’s word can be understood to mean different things to different people and all the different meanings are still true?


22 posted on 07/31/2012 7:56:52 PM PDT by a22freeman
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To: Repeat Offender

For later


23 posted on 07/31/2012 8:15:02 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded.)
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To: doc1019

bump

hey, there is always Scientology to make Mormons look good.


24 posted on 07/31/2012 8:56:06 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: GeronL

LOL!


25 posted on 07/31/2012 8:57:38 PM PDT by doc1019 (Romney will NEVER get my vote.)
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To: maine-iac7

That is the best referenced “ignorance” I have ever seen...


26 posted on 07/31/2012 9:33:15 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: a22freeman

Welcome back...


27 posted on 07/31/2012 9:36:51 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Colofornian

During WWII in Germany the Mormons enjoyed an unmolested period amongst their Nazi buddies...

While brave Christian priests and pastors were being murdered and imprisoned for speaking out about the atrocities visited upon the Jews and trying to hide them from the Nazis, the racist Mormons were encouraging the Nazis in the holocaust against the defenceless innocent Jews...

Would the Mormons encourage the Moslems to torture and kill Jews and other non-Mormons as they aided the Nazis in Hitlers Germany ???


28 posted on 07/31/2012 9:48:09 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: a22freeman; Elsie

HEY !!!

Why does the mormon koran have Joseph Smith as the author

and yet the Christian Bible has no man’s name on it ???


29 posted on 07/31/2012 9:54:28 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: a22freeman; Elsie; All
Do you believe that the translation of the Bible is the only true translation...

(Joseph Smith didn't...hence his "Inspired version" -- the revised JST "version" he made up)

...or do you believe that God’s word can be understood to mean different things to different people and all the different meanings are still true?

And ALL the differences -- no matter how many and how diverse and how contradictory ALL those distinct interpretations are -- might somehow ALL hang together as "true?" (Did you REALLY ask this question???)

30 posted on 07/31/2012 11:37:59 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: a22freeman; Tau Food; All
Tau, No matter how many times “Mountain Meadow Massacre” is talked about, it is the exception and not the rule.

Tau: In 1858, Brigham Young was given that "exception" a22freeman is talking about by being handed a pardon for his part in the MMM atrocities.

Tau: If what a22freeman was "so," then Mormons would have turned evidence vs. a number of the killers involved...instead of ONLY ONE that was ever tried and convicted. (IOW, it became THE "MORMON RULE" in the 19th century -- and those who lived into the 20th century with special knowledge about these atrocities -- to hide the info...)

Young and other Mormon leaders have all excused the Mormon mass-murderers -- at least 42 known Mormons by never bringing them to justice...or even ex-communicating them (two were; but were reinstated later -- one while still alive; the other after his death)...

Per Mitt Romney, who addressed the MMM during his 2007 presidential campaign in response to a reporter’s question: “That was a terrible, awful act carried out by members of my faith,” he told the Associated Press. “There are bad people in any church, and it’s true of members of my church, too.”

Well...the MMM mass-murderers included...
...an Lds bishop,
...an Lds "to be" bishop,
...two stake presidents,
...a counselor to a stake president...
...and perhaps others higher up the chain...
(So much for people -- like Mitt Romney -- claiming there's "murderers" in every church...such "murderers" in other churches aren't readily elevated to--or retained as -- church leadership...like what happened with these mass murderers)

One of the Mormon stake presidents had been in that role about a year when the massacre occurred...as a "reward" for his part in the slaughter, Lds "prophets" Brigham Young and John Taylor left him in that role. He (William Dame) wound up serving 24 years as an Lds stake president (1856-1880).

I'm sorry...but as "a rule," known leaders in massacres are not retained for 23 MORE years as church leaders.

Solid LDS church history researchers implicate William Dame's role in the massacre. It's not simply speculation. One Lds church historian even breaks it down perpetrator by perpetrator.

31 posted on 07/31/2012 11:47:51 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: doc1019; Colofornian; fishtank; svcw; Elsie; Tau Food; Tennessee Nana
Funny. You all seem to be on the same threads, but this one. I guess it is a mystery.
32 posted on 08/01/2012 12:11:35 AM PDT by PA Engineer ("We're not programs, Gerty, We're People")
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bookmark


33 posted on 08/01/2012 12:12:38 AM PDT by freds6girlies (many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first. Mt. 19:30. R.I.P. G & J)
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To: PA Engineer
#1: Thank you for encouraging ALL FReepers to give more -- or to start giving -- to FR. (Always worth it)

#2: Please don't stop @ this thread. (Perhaps you can show some consistency & keep hitting up various threads where you can "ID" other posters who don't make their giving patterns public)

34 posted on 08/01/2012 12:24:52 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

How about you and your posse match my donations dollar per dollar? Are you up for it?


36 posted on 08/01/2012 12:31:00 AM PDT by PA Engineer ("We're not programs, Gerty, We're People")
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To: Colofornian

We will start at $100. When each of your matches, I will keep adding. How about it?


37 posted on 08/01/2012 12:32:09 AM PDT by PA Engineer ("We're not programs, Gerty, We're People")
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To: Colofornian
(Perhaps you can show some consistency & keep hitting up various threads where you can "ID" other posters who don't make their giving patterns public)

There is no reason not to make your screen name public. Very lame dude.
38 posted on 08/01/2012 12:33:56 AM PDT by PA Engineer ("We're not programs, Gerty, We're People")
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To: PA Engineer

BTTT for tomorrow.


39 posted on 08/01/2012 12:49:45 AM PDT by PA Engineer ("We're not programs, Gerty, We're People")
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To: maine-iac7

What is that unreasoned response.
Are you able to comment on the post or just limited in ability to attack the poster.


40 posted on 08/01/2012 1:20:37 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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