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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: MayflowerMadam
Whenever I see anyone post that, I get curious. Just who is your Republican representative or senator that you are not voting for? I kinda like my Republican rep (Radanovich) and would like to keep him, but I'd give just about anything to have Republican senators. I'd even take a hated RINO over Boxer or Feinstein.
1,561 posted on 05/17/2006 1:27:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: stands2reason

Bookmark for later ... whew, this thread is just now starting to slow down a bit ... at 1500 posts.


1,562 posted on 05/17/2006 1:28:13 PM PDT by Oliver Optic
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To: justshutupandtakeit
"I vacillate between nukes and MOABs but damnit something needs to be blowed up real gud."

Forget all that...put Walmart greeters in between the two fences...giving away free copies of "The Di Vinci Code".

1,563 posted on 05/17/2006 1:28:36 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: onyx

Here is the post in question, after I said we should do border security first:

Gee, how about both? Ever heard of walking and chewing gum at the same time? Look into it.


1,271 posted on 05/17/2006 3:22:01 PM EDT by Lead Moderator


1,564 posted on 05/17/2006 1:28:43 PM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: Junior_G
Look, just because people disagree with you doesn't mean that there is a conspiracy with "infiltrators", "disruptors", and (my personal favorite) "sleepers".

It doesn't **mean** there isn't either. I'd say it's rather naive of you to think there aren't people who's very presence on a given forum aren't there to sway people's minds and to cause disruption. You know as well as I do that a lot of FReepers go to DU to do just that. Or, maybe you don't.

1,565 posted on 05/17/2006 1:29:00 PM PDT by subterfuge (Call me a Jingoist, I don't care...)
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To: onyx; dirtboy

Can't say I blame him. That's what the losing side of the argument does when it can't back up their claim with actual quotes or evidence.


1,566 posted on 05/17/2006 1:29:04 PM PDT by Lead Moderator
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To: dirtboy

Looking at the figures shows that there is apparently about a 2/3s chance of being caught.


1,567 posted on 05/17/2006 1:29:24 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Lead Moderator

I have a question. I can understand vanities by the mods or Jim himself in Breaking News. Why is this one?


1,568 posted on 05/17/2006 1:29:43 PM PDT by stands2reason ("Patriotism is the highest form of dissent." - Mark Steyn)
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To: Pukin Dog
Right now, as they chew (or smoke) their 'parsley' they are working on their styles to appear more human and less 'cylon' in their trolling. The fight never ends.

LOL, I was engaging in some extreme wishful thinking.

1,569 posted on 05/17/2006 1:30:02 PM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.)
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To: Toby06

Oh riiight I am sure to be banned.


1,570 posted on 05/17/2006 1:30:22 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: stands2reason

It's great troll bait. ;)


1,571 posted on 05/17/2006 1:30:45 PM PDT by Lead Moderator
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To: pollyannaish
Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington...

I need new glasses. When I read that, I thought it said "Our job is to trick the best individual and...

In regard to Snowe/Chaffee/Collins/Graham. If we lose those seats, we lose control. As much as I want to send them packing, I wonder if the message we want to send would be clear (ie. we want you to be MORE conservative not less) not to mention my deep suspicion as to our ability to elect anyone more conservative. In some of those cases, I think we are really lucky to just have a seat in our column.

Chafee is targetted, not the others. And you'll notice it isn't the GOP or even FR that's after him. At any rate, if control of the Senate revolves around keeping Chafee as a faux-Republican, it's a lost cause anyway. Mostly because in an near-even Senate split, just like Jeffords, Chafee will eventually go independent or sell out to the Dims anyway since he votes with them all the time anyway.

Chafee is almost to the left of Kennedy. And he's unpopular. And weird. If ever there is a RINO to make an example of, he's it.

If we want Snowe and Collins and Graham to toe the line on conservative votes, we have to get Chafee this year so they know we mean business.
1,572 posted on 05/17/2006 1:30:52 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: Jim Robinson

I think I'd take a clever parot over either of those Marxist globalist traitors. And their destructiveness is so transparent! Yet they talk as though they were the Virgin Mary. What brazen duplicity!

At least with a parot, we could teach him the Bill of Rights and he might infect someone with some good truth for a change. A lot better than what those traitors infect people with.


1,573 posted on 05/17/2006 1:31:00 PM PDT by Quix ( PREPARE . . . PRAY . . . PLACE your trust, hope, faith and life in God's hands moment by moment)
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To: Lead Moderator
Can't say I blame him. That's what the losing side of the argument does when it can't back up their claim with actual quotes or evidence.

Hey, Lead Modertor - you said just that - unless you wish to disavow this post:

Gee, how about both? Ever heard of walking and chewing gum at the same time? Look into it.

1,271 posted on 05/17/2006 3:22:01 PM EDT by Lead Moderator

So now you won't even stand by something you posted earlier on this thread? Or do you wish to parse your chewing gum statement?

1,574 posted on 05/17/2006 1:31:02 PM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: OldFriend
What to do with the various city authorities who want the illegals in their midst. Or should I say in our midst, since they don't have to live with the problem. Their children are in private schools and they live in safe neighborhoods.

Cut their federal funding. I think they would see the light.

I know that seems harsh but I'm serious when I say that we need to all be on the same page on this, even if it is unwillingly. And after all Money talks...

1,575 posted on 05/17/2006 1:31:04 PM PDT by CougarGA7 (There are no trophies for winning wars. Only consequences for losing them.)
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To: stands2reason
I have a question. I can understand vanities by the mods or Jim himself in Breaking News. Why is this one?

Because there are now two sets of posting guidelines, apparently.

1,576 posted on 05/17/2006 1:31:34 PM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: Toby06

Any measure of intelligence will show me ahead of you I have no doubt.


1,577 posted on 05/17/2006 1:32:00 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Pukin Dog

BTW, happy freeperversary.


1,578 posted on 05/17/2006 1:32:02 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: DCPatriot

Your point was certainly clear enough. I am not without sin in the typo department, I shall not cast stones.


1,579 posted on 05/17/2006 1:32:17 PM PDT by Toby06 (I'm a conservative-I'll support conservative candidates. That does NOT necessarily mean republican)
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To: Cold Heat

But why does it have be done all in one bill? Close the border now, then work on the disguised amnesty bill.


1,580 posted on 05/17/2006 1:32:56 PM PDT by Tatze (This tagline is brought to you by the Admin Moderator!)
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