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JIM ROBINSON AS THE NEW JOSEPH FARAH - STABBING THE CONSERVATIVE MOVEMENT IN THE BACK [Re:Giuliani]
On one the few rational minds left around here - but for long | 4/24/2007 | Al Simmons

Posted on 04/24/2007 10:22:39 AM PDT by Al Simmons

About me:

Lurker - since 1998

Member - since 1999

In self-imposed exile - since April 2007

The tone of the debate and the attacks on long-time fellow Freepers for the cardinal sin of daring to support Rudy Giuliani in early 2007 around here have really saddened me. Instead of fighting the enemy FR is now imposing an 'ideological purity' test on FR members. The well-oiled train has gone off the rails and Mr. Robinson risks becoming the next Joe Farah - a fellow who started a great website for conservative news and opinions, but who gradually drifted off to la-la land, losing all credibility - and readership - in the process.

He has set himself squarely in the Internet media spotlight, doused himself with gasoline, and and lighted himself on fire - a fact that has not escaped the attention of the left-wing lunatics at Daily Kos. Their reporting on what has been going on at FR is perhaps the first factually true account published on their site.

Jim, if that quote of yours about setting up an organization to 'Swiftboat Rudy' is accurate as quoted in their article, the only thing I have to say to you is that you ought to be ashamed of yourself, as you have now become the back-stabber of the conservative cause.

If you wish to marginalize this site by turning it into a narrow "several-issue" forum, that is your right. Just as it is my right to choose to not participate here any longer.

But you will be disappointed if you think that the crude, illiterate "goon squad" you have allowed free rein around here (dmw, narses, dirtboy, extremely extreme extremist, ReaganMan and several others - if I have slighted anyone, please email me if you want onto this list) will elevate the level of intellectual debate.

The result has been predictably in the other direction. That is what happens when you hire a bunch of brown shirts to enforce your own brand of political correctness.

Well, guess what? Politics is 99% BS and one can quite nicely live one's life without the need to bloviate about it. I know how I am going to vote. I could care less about anyone else. Life is too short to waste my time around here when I am clearly one of those made to feel like they are not welcome.

So, go ahead Jim -

MAKE MY DAY. BAN ME. I DARE YOU.


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To: Eva

Ref post #66.

Eva, I missed that. Do you have a copy you can share with us?

Thank you.

This is much worse than what I had thought possible.

Gads!!!


141 posted on 04/24/2007 1:39:56 PM PDT by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Brilliant
I support Giuliani, and he hasn’t punished me.

Forget it, he's on a roll

142 posted on 04/24/2007 1:40:45 PM PDT by jmc813 (The 2nd Amendment is NOT a "social conservative" issue.)
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To: TigersEye
you don’t think conservatives will vote for a conservative candidate if he’s the only choice between a Pubbie and a Dem?”

That's not what I meant. I just think that if we had a viable conservative candidate we could all rally around, he would get the nomination. The problem is, none of Rudy's competitors are ginning up any excitement. We need a new conservative face - someone who can excite the young generation of voters. These recycled GOP candidates (McCain, Gingrich) just aren't going to do it. I may agree with Duncan on just about everything, but he is sorely lacking in charisma.

143 posted on 04/24/2007 1:42:06 PM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: Al Simmons
a fact that has not escaped the attention of the left-wing lunatics at Daily Kos. Their reporting on what has been going on at FR is perhaps the first factually true account published on their site.

I read the kos piece and it was nothing but recycled Clown Posse bull$hit. Says a lot about what you think is factual.

144 posted on 04/24/2007 1:42:32 PM PDT by jmc813 (The 2nd Amendment is NOT a "social conservative" issue.)
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To: Al Simmons

Al Simmons = Clueless liberal POS. Adios bendejo.


145 posted on 04/24/2007 1:44:34 PM PDT by semaj (Just shoot the bastards! * Void where prohibited.)
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To: mutley
“MAKE MY DAY. BAN ME. I DARE YOU.”

“I would, for posting a vanity that belongs in the threads on this subject. Self importance?”

If he objects to what is going on, why is he here? His thread is filled with ad hominem self-righteous attacks he claims others have leveled against those who support Guiliani.

I detect 99%BS.

146 posted on 04/24/2007 1:44:53 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: Brilliant
I support Giuliani, and he hasn’t punished me.

Well Al was pretty stupid by insulting Jim this way. Jim had a (strong) Op-Ed piece about Rudy. He has never censored anyone here so far as I know. The Rudybots are a vocal crowd. And apparently a sensitive crowd too.

147 posted on 04/24/2007 1:45:25 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Al Simmons

I don’t post a lot here on FR, but I will point his out to you, and others who are reading this thread.

For there to be a conservative movement, conservatives must discuss and debate. FR is the premier discussion site on the net for conservatives.

I don’t favor Giuliani. He is way more liberal than I like.

But, if he wins the nomination, I’ll vote for him over Hillary, Obama, Edwards or any other Democrat every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Then, on Monday morning I’ll start looking for a more conservative option than Giuliani.

Getting mad, picking up your ball, and going home will insure one thing - The Conservative Movement will falter and socialists like Hillary Clinton will ru(i)n this country.


148 posted on 04/24/2007 1:45:58 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right....)
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To: stockpirate
I for one wish ALL RINO’s and liberal Republicans would cross over to he Democrats.

Ideologically they have already crossed over.
149 posted on 04/24/2007 1:46:46 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: SlowBoat407
and the webby award for most hilarious and surreal juxtaposition of web images goes to ...

SlowBoat407!

150 posted on 04/24/2007 1:47:26 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: freeperfromnj
That's not what I meant. I just think that if we had a viable conservative candidate we could all rally around, he would get the nomination.

Someone will get the nomination. I will go out on a limb and guarantee that. This is the pre-primaries period of the process. By about ten months. Now is the time to voice who you would prefer to be the candidate. Once the candidate is selected, 18 months from now, and he turns out to be a stomach turning liberal, then it would make sense to lobby for him under the "at least he's not a Dem" banner. Now it just shows that you either have no faith in conservatism or don't like it.

151 posted on 04/24/2007 1:48:16 PM PDT by TigersEye (For Democrats; victory in Iraq is not an option.)
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To: beeber

“CLOSE THE BORDER NOW!”

“No more Burritos for Al Simmons!”

(((laughing)))


152 posted on 04/24/2007 1:48:26 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: Nightshift

ping...


153 posted on 04/24/2007 1:49:18 PM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: shag377

154 posted on 04/24/2007 1:49:52 PM PDT by CholeraJoe (Beebers stuned - $5. Two for $8.)
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To: Al Simmons
Exit stage left, Sparky.


155 posted on 04/24/2007 1:49:59 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (I have a big carbon footprint and I'm not afraid to use it.)
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To: Al Simmons
I too want a woman President:

Vote Julie Annie 2008!


156 posted on 04/24/2007 1:50:04 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: montag813

I remember Jim’s post about Rudy. I replied to him that I was probably going to vote for Rudy. Apparently, Jim did not think that merited any kind of response on his part.


157 posted on 04/24/2007 1:50:07 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: pissant
If you don’t like conservatives that don’t like liberals, may I suggest the Log Cabin Republicans or Republicans for Choice.

Is the Ripon Society still around? CA....

158 posted on 04/24/2007 1:50:25 PM PDT by Chances Are (Whew! It seems I've once again found that silly grin!)
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To: Al Simmons

In before post 1000


159 posted on 04/24/2007 1:50:42 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Lurking in Kansas

Maybe we should have “Opus making for Dummies” somewhere.


160 posted on 04/24/2007 1:50:45 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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