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Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsidEdited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]
Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.
Barry's Kenyan B.C.??
Special Motion for leave
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)
“This thread is an insult to my intelligence.
welcome to FR n00b!
I'm sure Pelosi and Reid will get right on that. /s
I don’t know anything about your Hawaiian COLB, since I haven’t had a chance to evaluate it or review what Polarik has said about it.
But more to the point, I have followed Polarik’s analysis of the forged COLB over the past year, and have found it convincing.
I dont think the govt of kenya likes Obamination:
KENYAN AMBASSADOR SENDS PROTEST NOTE TO SENATOR BARAK OBAMA
YOUR REMARKS IN BAD TASTE, INJURIOUS TO KENYA/US BILATERAL RELATIONS
1. I hereby wish to communicate to you the displeasure and disappointment of the Government of Kenya, the Kenya Embassy, Washington D.C. and the majority of Kenyans with regards to your recent utterances while in Kenya. Your unprovoked and uncalled for statements were in bad taste, particularly given that your visit was very well arranged in advance with full briefings given to your office in Washington D.C. by the Kenya Embassy. And, rather than nurture and strengthen the existing cordial and mutually beneficial relations between USA and Kenya, your wild accusations - that corruption and tribalism have reached a crisis point in Kenya - could only poison and injure our relations.
2. You deliberately and without real cause or reason, other than what appears to be cheap publicity and inconsequential populism, chose to publicly attack the democratically elected Government of Kenya. This was in total disregard for the requisite protocol and acceptable methods of addressing the issues you raised, what with programmed appointments to meet Cabinet Ministers and even the Head of State, since your visit was official.
Congress will just politicize it—it is all they know.
This mess cries out for action by the SCOTUS. What did we all sweat blood for when we suffered with Thomas, Roberts, and Alito during their committee hearings? We need their help now!
Your intelligence won’t be around long...
Any confirmation from the Keyes camp? website?
2. I see you joined up TODAY..8/2/09 to say this thread is an insult to your intelligence.
Is is just me or are there trolls coming out of the woodwork on this thread????
I'm starting to think forgery.
NoI’m not implying anything, I’m just saying it happened
It’s a troll.
So is the image with the red marks different than the image in the initial post? If so that explains it..it not I still don’t see red marks on this image.
The gang seems to be slowly filtering into our room. The talking points must have been agreed upon.
Interesting way to look at it. Whatever it takes, I guess. I was thinking about reporters doing actual investigative journalism, but since few if any of those exist today, if it takes a Russian Perry Mason style lawyer/dentist to get to the truth, then so be it.
It's not really a coverup. They merely support him and, as many of them are internationalists, they just think it doesn't matter where he was born (constitution is a 'live document' for them).
“Kenya was declared a Republic on December 12 1964 and this fake document shows Republic of Kenya and it was dated February 17 1964 i.e. before Kenya was declared a Republic.” This appears to be an example of people trying to spread misinformation to confuse the people reading the thread. Kenya became independent on 12 December 1963. jvertias is either a troll or misinformed. Look it up yourself.
Can you be more specific?
Canada and Australia are not republics.
My first take is that the dates DO match up for 1964 events surrounding the Obama's 1964 divorce.
Here we go:
Ann filed for Divorce Jan. 20, 1964 (Inauguration Day what are the odds?), and the date was set by the presiding judge for the trial to commence 30 days after Obama SR would have responded to his notification, sent to Cambridge, Mass (Cambridge what are the odds? ).
Judge Samuel P. King who granted the divorce last I heard was retired and alive (for now) in his 90s in Hawaii -- MAY or MAY NOT have asked to see the Marriage Certificate. BUT, I bet Judge King asked to see Obama JR's Birth Certificate to confirm Ann's claims that Obama SR was in fact the father. That is standard policy to have a Birth Certificate in case the mother asks for child support from the father (or Welfare) later after the divorce. Judge King probably told Ann to produce a birth certificate before or at trial, which would have been sometime in mid- to late-February 1964 HAD Obama SR answered his notice that was sent to Cambridge.
When Judge King wrote the order on Jan. 23, he had his clerk notify Obama SR via what's referred to as a "knock and nail". That is, the postman leaves the notification on the door for (generally) 10 days and retrieves it after that time passes -- signed or unsigned. That order was sent on Jan. 23 via airmail from Hawaii and was probably posted on Obama SR's door Jan. 27-28.
Obama SR's notification was unsigned by him and apparently IGNORED -- either he didn't want to accept it OR he was NOT at that location.
However, Judge King granted the divorce to Ann Obama (which changed back to Ann Dunham) exactly 60 days from when the original order was request by Ann by default.
NOW, my guess is that Judge King asked to see Obama JRs Birth Certificate before he'd be willing to grant the divorce, either at trial or by default on March 20, 1964. Ann probably didnt have the birth certificate when she filed on Jan 20. That's when this birth certificate would have been generated -- before trial for the 1964 divorce.
Important side note: the Certificate issue date of Feb 17, 1964, is JUST A FEW SHORT MONTHS AFTER KENYA BECAME INDEPENDENT on Dec. 12, 1963. TO THIS DATE, this may be the only certificate on Kenyan file today if British documents were sent to the UK for archiving leading up Kenya becoming an independent nation.
If you note the date on the Certified Copy, it was created by the Registrar in Kenya on Feb. 17, 1964. The Kenyan Birth Certificate would have been issued in the midst of the divorce -- AFTER the divorce was filed by Ann in Hawaii on Jan. 20, but BEFORE the divorce was granted by Judge King on March 20.
Furthermore, it's quite plausible that once Ann actually had this Kenyan birth certificate in her hands, and the divorce was granted on March 20, her attorney, George Kerr, counseled her on Hawaiian birth certificate "loopholes" and told her how to file for a Hawaiian "Certificate of Delayed Birth" to get Welfare or OTHER support for young Obama as a child of a non-supporting foreign national.
As Hawaiian law allows, that CODB could have been "upgraded" later to a Certificate of Live Birth in the 60s or 70s, which would then be a "root document" of the shorter Certification of Live Birth we see today presented as proof of birth from Barack Hussein Obama II.
I cant vouch for the veracity of the Kenyan birth certificate itself, not knowing how or from whom Orly obtained the birth certificate (the chain of evidence). It may have been obtained quite surreptitiously from the only filed Kenyan birth certificate record copy requested -- likely generated from the 1964 divorce.
It's QUITE possible that all other copies of this Kenyan birth certificate may have been scrubbed from Kenyan archives, but this one may have survived in a lone Vital Statistics office somewhere in Kenya not known about until now.
True but who placed the ad? Granny could have done it—many papers accepted announcements from family members in those days.
Kenya became an independent country (Republic of Kenya) on Dec. 12, 1963.
Turns out that's the right question to ask. It's been pointed out that the Republic of Kenya came into existence on 12 December 1964. However, it issued this certification on 17 February 1964. Oops.
Meanwhile, Orly Queen of Birfitania is reportedly headed for the UK to check the Kenyan colonial records for Book 44B, page 5733. Lot's of luck with that!
I forecast this one has a short half-life. Not as short as that one with the taunt in the EXIF. But short, nonetheless.
Oh, for the “innocent” days of Watergate. By today’s standards, certainly innocent, anyway. This BC issue is a world issue, since Obama has to now be the most blackmailable president in history. No wonder he uses each country he visits as a confessional for the evil U.S.
That copy is no longer up. Why? What happened to it? It was the same but with a tear in the paper. STRANGE!!!
Hey, even Rush makes mistakes like that sometimes!
I believe it was a basket type. Notice that the upper case A is harder struck than its neighbors in each case. I don't think you'd get that from a Selectric or similar ball type where one striking mechanism is doing all letters.
You signed up today to mutter that nonsense....you DU folks are getting your panties in a wad....now go away!
Where in your link does it show the BC under discussion today?
Look at how hard the leftists have worked to try and keep this covered up...
I.E. they know it is TRUE!
What, Phil Berg heard information?? That was more of a rumor, not fact, him to have heard/seen and it did not get put online. Specifically, this document is a "Certified Copy of Registration of Birth" NOT a Birth Certificate per say.
You're brand new!
Since Jul 31, 2009"
An insult to the intelligence of an idiot who didn’t even bother to read the document? Apparently, your intelligence isn’t all it’s cracked up to be.
But if you want to talk about why the document says Republic of Kenya in Feb 1964 when it didn’t actually change until Dec 1964, that would be legitimate and people are looking into whether other official correspondence used the term ‘Republic of Kenya’ prior to the change. Rest assured that whomever finds any clues one way or the other will read them more carefully than you did.
It says “Republic of Kenya.” Kenya did not become an independent republic until 1963, and wasn’t called “Republic of Kenya” until 1964. 0bama was born in 1961, when it was called the Dominion of Kenya.
It was a copy doctored by Salamander trying to be helpful. Please keep up.
There is no image of the birth certificate at that link. It just sounds like Berg had seen or knew of the BC under discussion today.
Weasel words! What “vital records?” And “NBC” is a legal determination which is not the province of a health director.
Odd you should mention it—On Friday (IIRC), Rush said more about the BC issue than I’ve ever heard him say.
I can’t read fast enough to ensure no one else posted this:
“WND was able to obtain other birth certificates from Kenya for purposes of comparison, and the form of the documents appear to be identical.”
“Taitz told WND that the document came from an anonymous source who doesn’t want his name known because “he’s afraid for his life.””
“Taitz told WND she plans to file additional paperwork with the Florida court tomorrow, adding the alleged Kenyan birth certificate to Maj. Cook’s case.”
It’s from 1964.
But thank you for your gracious advocacy of the virtues of intelligence on behalf of the thread.
FActcheck initially posted the exact same forgery that Obama’s campaign posted at fightthesmears. That forgery was pulled by Factcheck when the candidate supposedly allowed then to hanldea nd photograph a phyiscal document.
I want to see a lot of his paper history.
Kenya became an independent country (Republic of Kenya) on Dec. 12, 1963.
Frank Marshall Davis.