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Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link
orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid

Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]

Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.

Barry's Kenyan B.C.??

Special Motion for leave

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)


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To: Royal Wulff
Arguing to when Kenya started to use the term Republic in their letterheads and stamps is dang weak especially in the year 1964.


2,441 posted on 08/02/2009 12:26:29 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Brilliant find Red!

Do you know the date these stamps were issued?


2,442 posted on 08/02/2009 12:26:30 PM PDT by mojito
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To: Mygirlsmom
If you are still using Adobe reader 8.1, I would advise upgrading to the latest version asap.

Thank you for posting that...fastest, easiest install/upgrade I've ever seen

2,443 posted on 08/02/2009 12:26:42 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Move over NetZero - Obama's in the house!)
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To: Danae

okay.


2,444 posted on 08/02/2009 12:26:58 PM PDT by bricklayer
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To: Sprite518

Come on already. Why not? Obama the great zero has been telling itis a crisis every single day of his presidency already. What is one more crisis to them?


2,445 posted on 08/02/2009 12:27:30 PM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: bgill
McCain is not a natural born citizen, either. See Obama and Hillary's definition of "natural born citizen" and their agreement that McCain is one

Does a Senate Resolution trump the Constitution? The Senate can issue all the resolutions it wants, it will not make the child messiah illegally sleeping in the WH a NATURAL BORN, if he is not one.
2,446 posted on 08/02/2009 12:27:33 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: DJ MacWoW
My point is that one does not run with false info. One makes certain they have authentic, verifiable proof that cannot be dismissed. We do not yet know about this current document.

You keep assuming that to report on something is to declare it authentic. That is wrong. The existence of this document, and the fact that it is not obviously a forgery as Charles Johnson so glibly declared without any discussion as to how he draws this conclusion, is big. To big to say, lets wait for a couple of months for all uncertainty to be removed. This is like the fifth time I have said this.. so its boring me.

This needs to be reported as I said several posts ago,

"A document has been found that purports to prove that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. All efforts are being bent to determine the authenticity of this document as the consequences of being wrong are grave."

Not reporting this is improper because people need to be aware that this exists and that it is not unconnected to the stories of the Presidents relatives who claim that the events recorded in this document actually occurred.

We will all see how this shakes out. The Blogosphere will deconstruct this document just like they have many others and check all that can be verified by the means at hand. Once this is done, and no one shows it to be a obvious fraud, ala Rathergate, then Hot Air will report it by tomarrow disparagingly. This has been hitting peoples email boxes across the country, 3 and 4 copies, the thread is growing by more than 5,000 views per hour. Its the hottest thead I can remember at FR though I am sure folks with better memories could tick off a few more. This is the quiet few minutes before the explosion.

2,447 posted on 08/02/2009 12:27:33 PM PDT by dalight
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To: fireman15

yea, jveritas is 100% legit. I would trust him with my kids I think. The 1964 date may well be a deliberate misstatement. There are all sorts of things like that planted in the internet to confuse people. Some are genuine mistakes like the 1964 date, but they can be checked on and verified.

JV is one of the very good guys! :)


2,448 posted on 08/02/2009 12:27:54 PM PDT by Danae (- Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: xkaydet65

The history of Kenya’s independence is pretty violent, check out the Mau Mau revolution, now here is probably why the One didn’t ever want to be white. I remember the Mau Mau’s, we were daily regaled with news reports of them chopping up white settlers with machetes


2,449 posted on 08/02/2009 12:28:33 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: rxsid; SunkenCiv; All

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT, CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA

Notice of Electronic Filing

The following transaction was entered by Taitz, Orly on 8/1/2009 at 10:08 PM PDT and filed on 8/1/2009
Case Name: Ambassador Alan Keyes PhD, et al v. Barack Hussein Obama, et al
Case Number: 8:09-cv-82
Filer: Alan Keyes PhD
Document Number: 34

Docket Text:
NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD. (Attachments: # (1) Appendix Photocopy of Obama’s birth certificate from Kenya)(Taitz, Orly)
8:09-cv-82 Notice has been electronically mailed to:

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA david.dejute@usdoj.gov

Orly Taitz dr_taitz@yahoo.com

8:09-cv-82 Notice has been delivered by First Class U. S. Mail or by fax to: :

The following document(s) are associated with this transaction:

Document description:
Main Document
Original filename:C:\Documents and Settings\Orly Taitz\My Documents\Keyes%20rogatory%20motion%202[1].pdf
Electronic document Stamp:
[STAMP cacdStamp_ID=1020290914 [Date=8/1/2009] [FileNumber=8207635-0]
[4da93b34b5fdee7990ff197d1d52961f770acc565b44d7fc733fd17c504b32e2e382d
943286e846ebef328762b316b0afaf37f29aa8cf9f725fa7514c0519f29]]
Document description:Appendix Photocopy of Obama’s birth certificate from Kenya
Original filename:C:\Documents and Settings\Orly Taitz\My Documents\Kenya BC.pdf
Electronic document Stamp:
[STAMP cacdStamp_ID=1020290914 [Date=8/1/2009] [FileNumber=8207635-1]
[2b1e994c5d722e038a18416495d68765cadffdb11fa1066b8c7814f13f52f8ae00b5d
945186f8c08973dd1125cd2526e37cbc74feb3897c09b6b9ce4708491eb]]

Dr. Orly Taitz

Attorney-at-Law

Orly Taitz Law Offices

26302 La Paz, Suite 211

Mission Viejo, California 92691

Telephone: (949) 683-5411

E-Mail: dr_taitz@yahoo.com

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

FOR THE CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA

SANTA ANA (SOUTHERN) DIVISION

Captain Pamela Barnett, §

Lt. Colonel Richard Norton Bauerbach §

Captain Robin D. Biron §

Colonel John D. Blair, §

Mr. David L. Bosley, §

Ms. Loretta G. Bosley, §

Captain Harry G. Butler, §

Representative Glenn Casada, Tennessee §

Jennifer Leah Clark, §

Representive Timothy Comerford, NH §

Charles Crusemire, §

Representative Cynthia Davis, Missouri § Civil Action No.:

Chief Warrant O. Thomas S. Davidson § SACV09-00082-DOC (Anx)

Matthew Michael Edwards, § TRIAL-BY-JURY

Lt. Jason Freese, § DEMANDED

Mr. Kurt C. Fuqua, §

Officer Clint Grimes, §

Representative Casey Guernsey, Missouri §

Julliett Ireland, §

D. Andrew Johnson, §

Israel D. Jones, §

Timothy Jones, §

Alan Keyes, Ph.D., §

Commander David Fullmer LaRoque, §

Gail Lightfoot, §

Lita M. Lott, §

Major David Grant Mosby, §

MSGT Steven Kay Neuenschwander, §

Representative Frank Niceley, Tennessee §

Retired Senator Jerry O’Neil, Montana, §

SFC E7 Robert Lee Perry , §

Representative Larry Rappaport, NH §

Colonel Harry Riley, §

Sergeant Jeffrey Wayne Rosner, §

MSGT Jeffrey Schwilk, §

Captain David Smithey, §

Lt. Commander John Bruce Steidel, §

Cmdr. Douglas Earl Stoeppelwerth §

Thomas J Taylor, §

Representative Eric Swafford, Tennessee §

Captain Neil B. Turner, §

Richard E. Venable, §

LCDR Jeff Graham Winthrope, and §

Lt. Colonel Mark Wriggle, §

Plaintiffs, §

§

v. §

§

Barack Hussein Obama, §

Michelle L.R. Obama, §

Hillary Rodham Clinton, Secretary of State, §

Robert M. Gates, Secretary of Defense, §

Joseph R. Biden, Vice-President and §

President of the Senate, §

Defendants. §

SPECIAL MOTION FOR LEAVE TO CONDUCT PRE-RULE 26(f) DISCOVERY

TO DEFENDANT HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON and

CERTAIN NON-PARTY WITNESSES

TO PERPETUATE TESTIMONY, PRESERVE EVIDENCE, and to

TRANSMIT LETTERS ROGATORY PURSUANT to

28 U.S.C. §§1781(a)(2)-(b)(2)

The undersigned counsel for Plaintiffs has acquired possession of a color copy of one certain document (attached as Exhibit A to this motion), regarding which there are no ready means of authentication except by recovery of the original document. As should be apparent from the nature and content of the document, if authenticated, and shown to be genuine, the contents of this document will significantly narrow and shorten the discovery and pre-trial litigation period necessary in this case, and might lead to an early resolution by settlement or transfer of these proceedings to the United States House of Representatives and Senate according the procedures outlined in the Constitution.

It is also apparent (and hearsay evidence available to Plaintiffs’ counsel aggravates her concerns) that political pressure may be brought to bear to destroy all relevant evidence, whether such evidence exists within or outside the borders of the United States of America.

It would appear to the undersigned counsel that either 28 U.S.C. §1781(a)(2) or 28 U.S.C. §1782(b)(2) or some combination of these statutory authorizations outlines the procedures by which to transmit letters rogatory and other requests to the proper authorities abroad in Kenya and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland.

For two classes of evidence at issue here, namely all requests for relevant passport materials and other documents existing within the United States of America, as well as all requests to be made through diplomatic channels to foreign tribunals, Defendant HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON is the Secretary of State of the United States of America, and accordingly, Secretary Clinton is the first and primary proper target of letters rogatory to be submitted pursuant to 28 U.S.C. §1781(a)(2).

FIRST, Plaintiffs pray that this court authorize Plaintiffs to issue a special subpoena for deposition duces tecum to Secretary HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON be cited to appear within 21 days pursuant to (or in the letter and spirit of) Rule 27 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure (even though this action has been filed and served, many months will pass before the Rule 26(f) Conference can be held to plan for discovery among the parties). The purpose of Rule 27, even though designed for pre-filing discovery, is fulfilled and relevant here, in that some (above-noted) hearsay evidence exists that an individual involved in the examination of passport files at the United States Department of State relating to and involving certain 2008 Presidential candidates may have been killed in relation to such inquiry. Last year it was announced by former secretary of State Candoleeza Rice that there was tampering with the passport records of three major presidential candidates and it was investigated by the inspector general. Lt. Querl Harris was one of the suspects in passport tampering scandal. Washington post has announced that he was cooperating with the FBI and shortly thereafter he was found dead, shot in the head, sitting in his parked car. This case remains open and unresolved. Under such circumstances, “perpetuation of evidence” becomes a more and more significant and time-sensitive issue.

SECOND, Plaintiffs pray that this court will send a request for letters rogatory pursuant to 28 U.S.C.§1781(a)(2) to Defendant HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON and other relevant officers in the United States Department of State to issue and transmit letters rogatory through proper diplomatic channels to the following foreign offices of public record and vital statistics:

For the Republic of Kenya:

KENYA
The Principal Civil Registrar
Dept of Civil Registration
Office of the President
PO Box 49179
Nairobi
Kenya

Tel: 227461

And/or

Office of the Principal Registrar

Deputy Registrar

Births, Deaths, and Marriages for the

Coast Province of Kenya

(or its modern successor, equivalent jurisdiction) in and for

MOMBASA, KENYA

(formerly British East Africa)

and/or

Kenya High Commission
45 Portland Place
London W1B 1AS

Tel No. 020 7636 2371

E-maiL: info.uk@kenyahighcommission.net info.uk@kenyahighcommission.net

http://www.kenyahighcommission.net/

searchcertappforms.html

And/or

www.direct.gov.uk

General Register Office

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/contact_us.asp

Certificate Services Section

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Passports/

WhoiseligibleforaBritishpassport/DG_174145
General Register Office
PO Box 2
SOUTHPORT
PR8 2JD

Tel: +44 (0) 845 603 7788 (8am to 8pm Monday to Friday. Saturday 9am to 4pm).

THIRD and in the alternative, Plaintiffs pray that this court issue and transmit letters rogatory and requests directly to each of the above-and-foregoing listed foreign offices or agencies (or to the relevant tribunals with appropriate jurisdiction in the relevant countries) without the intervention or assistance of Defendant HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON and/or other officers of the Department of State and/or the Department of Justice of the United States of America.

It is urgent that this request be prosecuted prior to the normal onset of discovery in this case, again, according to the general letter and spirit of Rule 27 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure regarding the perpetuation of testimony. There has never been a constitutional challenge to the identity and eligibility of a sitting President of the United States and so there are no direct precedents regarding this matter, but it is fairly safe to say that the potential consequences and fallout from this present filing being made public will be severe and significant, even though the undersigned counsel makes absolutely no pre-judgment or prediction regarding the actual authenticity of the document of which only a color copy taken by a camera at an odd angle, which is attached herein as Exhibit A.

PRAYER FOR RELIEF

For all of the above-and-foregoing reasons, Plaintiffs pray that this court will grant leave to the Plaintiffs to conduct the aforementioned special discovery immediately and prior to the normal Rule 26(f) Conference, pursuant to Rule 27 and all or some subset of the procedures authorized in 28 U.S.C. §§1781(a)(2)-1781(b)(2). Although the urgency of this request cannot be overstated, 21 days is the normal time for service of such a request as this under Rule 27 of the Federal Rules, and the undersigned counsel reminds the Court that she will be out of the United States from August 2, 2009, to August 24, 2009.

Respectfully submitted,

Saturday, August 1, 2009

Lughnasadh/LaLunasa

By:________________________________

Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq. (SBN 223433)

Attorney for the Plaintiffs

26302 La Paz, Suite 211

Mission Viejo, California 92691

Telephone (949) 683-5411

E-Mail: dr_taitz@yahoo.com

PROOF OF SERVICE

I the undersigned Charles Edward Lincoln, being over the age of 18 and not a party to this case, so hereby declare under penalty of perjury that on this Saturday August 1, 2009, I provided facsimile copies of the Plaintiffs’ above-and-foregoing

SPECIAL MOTION FOR LEAVE TO CONDUCT PRE-RULE 26(f) DISCOVERY

TO DEFENDANT HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON and

CERTAIN NON-PARTY WITNESSES

TO PERPETUATE TESTIMONY, PRESERVE EVIDENCE, and TRANSMIT

LETTERS ROGATORY PURSUANT to 28 U.S.C. §§1781(a)(2)-(b)(2)

to all of the following non-party attorneys whose names were affixed to the “STATEMENT OF INTEREST” who have appeared in this case in accordance with the local rules of the Central District of California, to wit:

THOMAS P. O’BRIEN

LEON W. WEIDMAN

ROGER E. WEST

DAVID A. DeJUTE

FACSIMILE (213) 894-7819

DONE AND EXECUTED ON THIS 1st day of August, 2009

Charles Edward Lincoln, III

charles.lincoln@rocketmail.com

Tel: (512) 923-1889

Exhibit A:

Unauthenticated Color Photocopy of

Certified Copy of

Registration of Birth from the

Coast Province of Kenya

District of Mombasa

District Registry Office

Office of the Principal Registrar

Republic of Kenya, issued on the

17th day of February, 19

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/

————————————end of Orly Taitz site

Letters Rogatory

Summary: Letters rogatory are the customary method of obtaining judicial assistance from abroad in the absence of a treaty or executive agreement. Letters rogatory are requests from courts in one country to the judiciary of a foreign country requesting the performance of an act which, if done without the sanction of the foreign court, could constitute a violation of that country’s sovereignty. Letters rogatory may be used in countries where multi-lateral or bilateral treaties on judicial assistance are not in force to effect service of process or to obtain evidence if permitted by the laws of the foreign country. 22 CFR 92.54 provides a definition of letters rogatory.

http://travel.state.gov/law/info/judicial/judicial_683.html


2,450 posted on 08/02/2009 12:28:42 PM PDT by dervish (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself)
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To: woofie

Thnx.

I don’t see a problem with the timeline, as they were doing things like moving halfway around the globe three times a week, getting divorces and re-marrying, things like that. Given those circumstances, it would be highly UNLIKELY that they DIDN’T request a copy.

Anybody know if there are records about request-for-copies? We might still have the original archived somewhere and ALSO a copy of the letter or fax that requested it in ‘64.


2,451 posted on 08/02/2009 12:28:53 PM PDT by djf (The "racism" spiel is a crutch, those who unashamedly lean on it, cripples!)
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To: 9YearLurker
NYT article dated Aug. 15, 1964

Kenyan Leader Announces Plans for Republic

2,452 posted on 08/02/2009 12:28:58 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: sonic109

Well some do care if it’s real. If you don’t care if he’s legitimate or a usurper, then why not skip over these threads? Yes, we do have big problems and I spent all last week emailing, calling, faxing, writing letters to try to kill Commie Health Care. It’s called multi tasking. Eventually, he is going to have to show documentation. Why he doesn’t just do it and end this is odd. Either he can’t..... or he’s an arrogant asshole that has no respect for the people he is employed by................US, WE THE PEOPLE.


2,453 posted on 08/02/2009 12:29:12 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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To: BP2

You should make this a whole thread of its own. Otherwise it’ll get lost in all of the noise.


2,454 posted on 08/02/2009 12:29:19 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: Jedidah

Perhaps the reason no marriage license has surfaced from an Hawaiian marriage is because Stanley Ann and Barack were married in Kenya?


2,455 posted on 08/02/2009 12:29:22 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Jeff Head

Jeff,

Why does the WND report the signature of the deputy registrar of Coast Province, as Joshua Simon Couya?

It looks like Joshua Simon Oduya to me.


2,456 posted on 08/02/2009 12:30:30 PM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: SatinDoll

“Orly is going to London... She is verifying the original entry of his birth in 1961, not the copy of 1964. Does that make any sense?”

Goes to the best evidence rule. The original is much more persuasive than subsequent intrepretations.

Apart from the fact that Kenya may have sealed relevant records, Orly may have good reason to suspect the register that has the book and page number reference on the Kenyan “COLB” has been altered or destroyed. For example, someone may have advised Orly that even with his contacts, Rahm came up empty-handed (or was successful).

Although she no doubt feels safer in London, she certainly needs personal security.


2,457 posted on 08/02/2009 12:30:35 PM PDT by frog in a pot (It's a myth, folks. The frog will jump out and he will be pi$$ed. Ever had big warts?)
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To: xkaydet65
Until 2007, Commonwealth realms that became republics automatically ceased to be members, until (like India in 1950) they obtained the permission of other members to remain in the organisation. This policy has been changed, so if any current Commonwealth Realms were to become republics, they would not have to go through this process.[35]

Kenya is a Commonwealth member.

2,458 posted on 08/02/2009 12:30:35 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century. I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: AAABEST

Might be about that time she decided to make sure Barry got the privlidges of being an “anerican” and registered his birth late in Hawaii, she was in the islands in that time frame, and had mom (a respected resident by that time) witness. Who knows, but Barry’s FULL birth RECORDS will show this. RecordS, not Record, Barry very likely has more than one document in his file, if only because of his adoption by Lolo.


2,459 posted on 08/02/2009 12:30:54 PM PDT by Danae (- Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: PowerPro; Shaniqua

Shaniqua means DU intelligence, i.e. if you don’t agree with the liberal agenda you’re a dummy. I’m sure this thread is highly offensive to any mind possessing “DU intelligence.”


2,460 posted on 08/02/2009 12:30:59 PM PDT by Scanian
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