Posted on 12/12/2015 5:43:43 PM PST by SunkenCiv
A hoard of Viking coins could change our understanding of English history, after showing how Alfred the Great 'airbrushed' out a rival king
A Viking hoard discovered by an amateur metal detectorist could prompt the re-writing of English history, after experts claimed it shows how Alfred the Great "airbrushed" a rival king from history.
Ceolwulf II of Mercia is barely mentioned in contemporary records and largely forgotten by history, only briefly described in the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle as an "unwise King's thane".
But as of today, his reputation might be rescued after a haul of coins dug up after more than 1,000 years suggested he in fact had a powerful alliance with Alfred, ruling their kingdoms as equals.
The hoard, made up of 186 coins, seven items of jewellery and 15 ingots, was found by amateur metal detectorist James Mather on his 60th birthday, after he uncovered it in a muddy field.
A selection of the coins show two emperor-like figures, believed to represent Alfred and Ceolwulf, and are now known to have been produced extensively in both kingdoms...
The coins date from the late 870s; the only example of a Viking hoard from the era.
Only one example of the double figured coin from each kingdom has been found previously, with archaeologists left unsure as to whether it was a "one-off" mint.
The new discovery reveals how the coins were produced in both Ceolwulf and Alfred's names, far more extensively than previously thought and in a number of different mints.
"It sheds new light on a very poorly understood period in English history," said Dr Williams.
(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...
The Viking dynasty that once ruled in Sicily and southern Italy imported muzzie scholars to tutor the royal children. The dynasty didn't last long. I believe they're descended from Hrolf the Ganger, who founded the Norman dynasty in Normandy (France), and was also the ancestor (some way) of William the Conqueror.
In the year 2525:
U.S. brass-penny hoard discovery reveals little-known president Obummer ‘airbrushed from history’
there fixed it
Alfred the Great is my 31st great-grandfather on my father’s side.
They could be carried by a swallow.
African or European?
Interesting about the coins, but the hysteria about “rewriting history” is flimflam. Alfred the Great, the only English called “the great”, is one of the key figures in Anglo-Saxon history, indeed, his cultural influence extends to the current United States of America. And, the current royal family descend in part from Alfred, as after the Norman Conquest the Norman line intermarried with the old Anglo-Saxon royal house. But journalists love to get publicity with “rewrite history” claims.
really? So do you have a list of every generation going back to Alfred? I guess if you descend from a later king, you just have to count back to Alfred. At any rate, that’s quite impressive.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_conquest_of_southern_Italy
My wife’s parents’ families are both from the province called Apulia, which has Bari as the principle city.
Rich in history dating to Greece, and true there was the Norman period. But there were also several other periods like Tuscan, Rome, French, Spanish, and there was German Holy Roman Emporer guy that built a cool castle with eight sides, etc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castel_del_Monte,_Apulia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_II,_Holy_Roman_Emperor
Gildas
http://www.vortigernstudies.org.uk/artsou/gildas.htm
History Of The Britons (Historia Brittonum) by Nennius Translated by J. A. Giles
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/medieval/nenius.asp
Avalon Project - The Anglo-Saxon Chronicle
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/subject_menus/angsax.asp
The Black Book of Carmarthen: Scholars left shaken after ultraviolet light reveals ghostly faces staring at them from medieval manuscripts
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/the-black-book-of-carmarthen-scholars-left-shaken-after-ultraviolet-light-reveals-ghostly-faces-10147622.html
Ultraviolet light reveals erased poetry in 13th century Black Book of Carmarthen
http://www.pasthorizonspr.com/index.php/archives/04/2015/ultraviolet-light-reveals-erased-poetry-in-13th-century-black-book-of-carmarthen
Doodles and poems found in Black Book of Carmarthen
By Lucy Ballin
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-32133243
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3276576/posts
The Mabinogion
http://levigilant.com/Bulfinch_Mythology/bulfinch.englishatheist.org/morte/Mabinogion.html
Thanks truth_seeker.
From what I understand, all reports of "medieval muslim scholars" is bogus. In actuality, any scholars or scientists from that period of time and from the middle east were in all likelihood descendants from ancient Assyrians, forced by the locust armies of Arab muslims to call themselves muslim. Muslims then are as muslims now, good at raising their hand to strike against other peoples, and then using their scholars and scientists to conquer others. Just like today, with McCain and Obama giving Isis the Stingers and other high tech weapons which they use to kill us and others that are not muslim.
McCain, one of the biggest dumbasses in history.
McCain is a true psychopath.
Yet, the citizens of Arizona, keep this wounded maniac, in office.
Just like today, with McCain and Obama giving Isis the Stingers and other high tech weapons which they use to kill us and others that are not muslim.Yeah, that's never happened. ISIS captured some Stingers in 2014, apparently not too many, they shot down an Iraqi helicopter, which was piloted by elementary school aged Christian and Jewish schoolgirls. /s
Nice! Oh, whoops, I just built a nice reply and pasted it into the wrong reply window. That’ll be a puzzle...
Sorry River Hawk.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3371901/posts?page=33#33
Alfred family tree:
http://www.britroyals.com/royaltree.htm
Wessex family tree:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Wessex_family_tree
Wonderful let’s destroy the legacy of Alfred the Great for some Mercian also ran
Is nothing sacred anymore
Alfred did not write the Chronicle
Most were written after his death
I’m going to chalk this off to Alfredphobes...
We used to have a poster by that moniker
Were you doing some Saturday night drinking?
You sure they didn’t mean Coolwolf of ‘Murica?
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