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Earliest domesticated horses dated 5,500 years ago
AP via Yahoo! ^ | Thursday, March 5, 2009 | Randolph E. Schmid

Posted on 03/06/2009 8:59:29 AM PST by SunkenCiv

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs; horse; horses
The Earliest Horse Harnessing and Milking
Alan K. Outram et al
Science Magazine
Friday, March 6, 2009
pp 1332-1335
Horse domestication revolutionized transport, communications, and warfare in prehistory, yet the identification of early domestication processes has been problematic. Here, we present three independent lines of evidence demonstrating domestication in the Eneolithic Botai Culture of Kazakhstan, dating to about 3500 B.C.E. Metrical analysis of horse metacarpals shows that Botai horses resemble Bronze Age domestic horses rather than Paleolithic wild horses from the same region. Pathological characteristics indicate that some Botai horses were bridled, perhaps ridden. Organic residue analysis, using 13C and D values of fatty acids, reveals processing of mare's milk and carcass products in ceramics, indicating a developed domestic economy encompassing secondary products.
the rest of the authors: Natalie A. Stear, Robin Bendrey, Sandra Olsen, Alexei Kasparov, Victor Zaibert, Nick Thorpe, Richard P. Evershed
1 posted on 03/06/2009 8:59:29 AM PST by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 03/06/2009 9:00:52 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv

Bactrian camel was domesticated 7500 years ago, at least.


3 posted on 03/06/2009 9:06:30 AM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: xcamel

Interesting, I didn’t know that.


4 posted on 03/06/2009 9:10:55 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: xcamel

So that’s what happened. :’) Thanks!


5 posted on 03/06/2009 9:13:14 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv

Now if we could only domesticate our automobiles like we did in the 20’s, 30’s and 40’s.


6 posted on 03/06/2009 9:15:50 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft (Liberals fear the return of The Cleaver Family.)
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To: xcamel
The llama is believed to have been domesticated first at Lake Titicaca about 4,000 BC, or "before the horse".

Oh, those primitive Indians, eh!

7 posted on 03/06/2009 9:25:34 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: SunkenCiv

wow, the were allowed to date back then...??..who would have thunk it....


8 posted on 03/06/2009 9:29:40 AM PST by tatsinfla
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To: tatsinfla

They could date until they heard the ominous words, “you’re pasture prime.”


9 posted on 03/06/2009 9:44:18 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv
Horse domestication revolutionized transport, communications, and warfare in prehistory,

The domestication of the horse and other 'beasts od burden' is one thing that's always been a head scratcher for me. Wherever there's been 'horses', they've always been 'domesticated'. From Asia to Europe and even the Arabs, the horse was domesticated. Even our 'Indians' domesticated the wild horses the Spanish brought to the New World. And where there wern't horse they domesticated Camels and the Elephanst in India.

To my knowledge this has happened everywhere except one place - sub Saharan Africa. Zebras, no and Elephants, no. The Zebra is similar to the smallish Asian horse the Mongols used, so I don't see why none was ever 'tamed'. No 'beast' was ever domesticated so they could RIDE instead of having to walk everywhere. And IMO that's one place riding beats the heck out of walking!

I don't know what the disconnect was but these locals never thought of this concept. I don't mean this to be racist but there must have been something wrong that unlike every other race, 'Africans' never domesticated an animal they could ride.

Maybe an Anthropologist should do a study on this?

10 posted on 03/06/2009 9:50:55 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: SunkenCiv

or someone told them to knock off the horse play....


11 posted on 03/06/2009 9:56:06 AM PST by tatsinfla
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To: SunkenCiv

I came here for the inevitable Helen Thomas pics, and left fully sighted. :)


12 posted on 03/06/2009 9:57:14 AM PST by Pessimist
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To: Condor51
I don't know what the disconnect was but these locals never thought of this concept. I don't mean this to be racist but there must have been something wrong that unlike every other race, 'Africans' never domesticated an animal they could ride.

When Europeans arrived in Africa, they attempted to domesticate zebras. Other than a couple of examples, they failed. The biggest problem, apparently, is that zebras, more than other equines, tend to panic when startled. They've been more successful when they've crossbred them with horses, donkeys, etc. to create zebroids.


13 posted on 03/06/2009 9:59:53 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: BGHater

IE!

Horses tamed 1,000 years earlier than thought
Times Online | 06 Mar 2009 | Mark Henderson
Posted on 03/06/2009 8:03:54 AM PST by BGHater
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2200706/posts


14 posted on 03/06/2009 10:01:45 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: xcamel
Bactrian camel was domesticated 7500 years ago, at least.

I guess you've made a specialty of that kind of info;)

15 posted on 03/06/2009 10:02:52 AM PST by happygrl (BORG: Barack 0bama Resistance Group: we will not be assimilated)
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To: tatsinfla

That may be the mane thing they worried about, but I hadn’t herd about it.


16 posted on 03/06/2009 10:09:55 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: muawiyah

Heee hee hee hee hee um hee bwah ha hee hee...

He said Titicaca!!!!

17 posted on 03/06/2009 10:09:55 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Looks like obama’s family tree.


18 posted on 03/06/2009 10:19:57 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
*** When Europeans arrived in Africa, they attempted to domesticate zebras. ***

See, that is my point, "When Europeans arrived."

Going back to pre history (3000 bc) the 'African's' never tried. I know Zebras are 'skittish'. But in all the millenia that passed you'd think by then they (Africans) could have been successful.

I'm sure the first 'horse' any race tried to 'tame' that horse breed would 'tend to panic when startled'.

19 posted on 03/06/2009 10:19:58 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: Condor51

So basically you’re saying Africans are dumb because they never figured out how to domesticate a wild animal that Europeans, with experience with horses, couldn’t domesticate either, right?


20 posted on 03/06/2009 10:50:01 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Condor51

Tetse Fly


21 posted on 03/06/2009 12:28:28 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Condor51
Guinea Fowl ~
22 posted on 03/06/2009 12:32:39 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Condor51; Bubba Ho-Tep
American Indians never domesticated the North American bison, which is otherwise indistinguishable from the European or Asian cattle.

One reason advanced for this is that brucellosis is endemic among bison. People who attempted to live close to bison, or use them for anything but meat, ended up failing to reproduce at a sufficient rate to avoid dying out.

23 posted on 03/06/2009 12:42:56 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Condor51
Not that simple, Zebra may be part of the equine family, but the temperament of Zebra just weren't suited for domesticating (many a European early colonizer in Africa tried, but failed). Same goes for elephant - African elephants are larger, meaner, and much more ill tempered than their Asian cousins and just didn't lend itself to domestication (which is why you only see Asian elephants in circus shows, not African ones).
24 posted on 03/06/2009 3:36:14 PM PST by Republican Party Reptile
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To: Condor51
Also, it's not just a matter of “having thousands of years to try”, some animals are just never going to be domesticated.

After all, sub-Sahara Africa did domesticate cattle, so it's not as if they were alien to the concept of selective breeding for domestication.

25 posted on 03/06/2009 3:43:00 PM PST by Republican Party Reptile
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To: muawiyah
American Indians never domesticated the North American bison

Well the Europeans never domesticated the European Bison either.

26 posted on 03/06/2009 4:04:15 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ("men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: Republican Party Reptile
why you only see Asian elephants in circus shows, not African ones

Actually a couple of decades afo, the last time I went to the Ringling Brothers, they had a couple of African Elephants among their herd of Asian Elephants. They did not let the customers near them, of course.

27 posted on 03/06/2009 4:06:56 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ("men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: SunkenCiv
Botai horses were bridled, perhaps ridden.

Since the article is behind a subscriber firewall I don't know how large these horses were, but the earliest horses known in civilized countries were too small to be ridden by an adult, which is why chariots came earlier in warfare than cavalry.

28 posted on 03/06/2009 4:12:41 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ("men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Sure they did ~ by crossbreeding it with domesticated cattle. The resulting beast is just as rangy, has the big hair, but is smaller and isn't angry all the time.

All these cattle are the same species.

29 posted on 03/06/2009 7:42:21 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Guinea Fowl ~

wicked, evil creatures. LOL

30 posted on 03/06/2009 9:03:55 PM PST by ferri (Sometimes the appropriate response to reality is to go insane. - Philip K. Dick)
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domestication of horse site:freerepublic.com
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31 posted on 04/17/2009 1:16:37 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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Chinese Archaeologists Probe Origin Of Domestic Horses Through DNA
Xinhuanet - China View | 4-1-2006 | Mo Hong’e
Posted on 04/01/2006 2:55:30 PM PST by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1607597/posts


32 posted on 05/18/2009 7:58:05 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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